Its impossible to defeat Al Shabab and Salafi ideology

[Cognitivedissonance]

It's Islamic not Arab, it's sunnah that's why you find it from Afghanistan to Yemen it's world wide embrace it.

 

[Land of Punt]

Well they wear it now in abundance, have you even been to Puntland? So what if you're from his tribe? The point is that you ain't him so stop barking orders.

yeah, ive been, and ive seen lots of them, just because some wear it, does not mean i cant criticise what i see

also because lots of people do a wrong, does not make it a right

it aint islamic, they embrace it now with saudi money, but just 20 years ago, it was rare outside the gulf

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

yeah, ive been, and ive seen lots of them, just because some wear it, does not mean i cant criticise what i see

also because lots of people do a wrong, does not make it a right

it aint islamic, they embrace it now whith saudi money, but just 20 years ago, it was rare outside the gulf

Take a seat mr judge, jury & executioner f*ck your opinions the majority wear it cause it's part of the sunnah. I suggest you stay in the west with your unislamic ideas remember your kind are the minority who you'll find only in the west.

 

[Land of Punt]

Take a seat mr judge, jury & executioner f*ck your opinions the majority wear it cause it's part of the sunnah. I suggest you stay in the west with your unislamic ideas remember your kind are the minority who you'll find only in the west.

i aint in the west though, and the majority dont, not in puntland anyway some do of course, but not most of the population

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

i aint in the west though

You might aswell be, maybe you're watching too many western propaganda & that's got you indoctrinated & hating Islamic practises either way your gassed.

 

[Land of Punt]

You might aswell be, maybe you're watching too many western propaganda & that's got you indoctrinated & hating Islamic practises either way your gassed.

hahaha, i dont hate islam, beacuse i am a proud non salafist muslim
its only you salafi guys who kill inoccent muslims

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

hahaha, i dont hate islam, beacuse i am a proud non salafist muslim
its only you salafi guys who kill inoccent muslims

You could call me an eagle if that makes you feel better.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I can't stand docile fickle men Allah loves the strong Muslim.

 

[The Informant]

@The Informant state what you dislike about my comments instead of acting like a chick that I cheated on & disliking all my comments 22 dislikes really?

Keep chatting xaar you will continue getting these

 

[Hubble]

One hadith says face and hands are not cawro and the Quran says to cover your bodies some say chests is the right translation and I agree because a lot of tribes used to go topless before embracing Islam fully.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

The hate for Islam here is to much.Remember Rasulullah(s.a.w.) told us to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and he also told us that the best generations of Islam is the first three(I.e).That is Islam and anyone not practising what they practiced are innovators or worse apostates if they breach the nullifiers of Islam.Those who say they will follow what their forefathers practiced(qaaf aria) are no different from the Quraish mushrikeen who told the messenger they won't accept Islam cause they will only follow what their forefathers worshipped

 

[Zayd]

Salafiyya are a cancer, Arabsiyo has resisted, areas of Hargeisa are still Shaf'i and are yet to join Jamacatul Shaykh Al Najdee,

Wallahi the Prophet said "stick to the vast majority" , when the so called "reviver" Shaykh Al Najdee emerged 250-300 years ago did he not revolt against the vast majority? Did he not send his "Muhawiduun" messengers to Scholars in the Hedjaz "inviting" them to Islam, as if they were not Muslim to begin with? Treating men who lived their entire life upon Islam are now Mushrikeen in need of purification and tawbah according to some amateur Sheikh who read a couple of isolated quotes from Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah (rah), Imam ibn Kathir (RA), Ibn Qayyim (Rah) and Imam Adh-Dhahabi (rah), and a Sheikh who was inspired by that Khawarij Muhammad ibn 'Amir Al San'anee who was born smack bang on 1100 H.A, didn't the Prophet say the Khawarij are born at the beginning of every century?

Don't be deluded by their popularity through their media powered by their petro-dollar money, these people are a minority compared to the majority.
44% of the Ummah follow Imam Abu Hanifah (RA) who began the Sunnah of writing fiqh books on the Revealed Law,
30% follow Imam Malik ibn Anas (RA) who was mentioned by the Prophet before he was born as the " Knowledgable Imam of Al Medina"
15% follow Imam Shaf'i (RA) who revolutionized Usul Al-Fiqh, and who was a absolute Mujtahid Mutlaq (Master of all sciences) in his Deen.
5% follow Imam Ahlul Sunnah aka Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (RA) who resisted the Mu'tazila and dealt them a decisive blow, he recorded the Creed of Islam.

Anything other than these four fall short of the majority, and are one of the 73 sects.. Whether Salafiya, Baha'is, Ahmadiyya, Shi'a, Alawiyya, all of them, why? Because the founding father of their sect isn't from the first three generations, whereas the Four Imams were and they followed the schools of the Companions who graduated from the school of Muhammad (pbuh). They resisted the various breakaway sects, Qadariya, Mu'tazila, Jahmiyya etc.. they are Al Firqatul Najiya, not these students of Sheikh Al Najdy,you got the wrong Muhammad Salafis, it's Muhammad ibn Abdillah (saw) not Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

Salafiyya are a cancer, Arabsiyo has resisted, areas of Hargeisa are still Shaf'i and are yet to join Jamacatul Shaykh Al Najdee,

Wallahi the Prophet said "stick to the vast majority" , when the so called "reviver" Shaykh Al Najdee emerged 250-300 years ago did he not revolt against the vast majority? Did he not send his "Muhawiduun" messengers to Scholars in the Hedjaz "inviting" them to Islam, as if they were not Muslim to begin with? Treating men who lived their entire life upon Islam are now Mushrikeen in need of purification and tawbah according to some amateur Sheikh who read a couple of isolated quotes from Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah (rah), Imam ibn Kathir (RA), Ibn Qayyim (Rah) and Imam Adh-Dhahabi (rah), and a Sheikh who was inspired by that Khawarij Muhammad ibn 'Amir Al San'anee who was born smack bang on 1100 H.A, didn't the Prophet say the Khawarij are born at the beginning of every century?

Don't be deluded by their popularity through their media powered by their petro-dollar money, these people are a minority compared to the majority.
44% of the Ummah follow Imam Abu Hanifah (RA) who began the Sunnah of writing fiqh books on the Revealed Law,
30% follow Imam Malik ibn Anas (RA) who was mentioned by the Prophet before he was born as the " Knowledgable Imam of Al Medina"
15% follow Imam Shaf'i (RA) who revolutionized Usul Al-Fiqh, and who was a absolute Mujtahid Mutlaq (Master of all sciences) in his Deen.
5% follow Imam Ahlul Sunnah aka Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (RA) who resisted the Mu'tazila and dealt them a decisive blow, he recorded the Creed of Islam.

Anything other than these four fall short of the majority, and are one of the 73 sects.. Whether Salafiya, Baha'is, Ahmadiyya, Shi'a, Alawiyya, all of them, why? Because the founding father of their sect isn't from the first three generations, whereas the Four Imams were and they followed the schools of the Companions who graduated from the school of Muhammad (pbuh). They resisted the various breakaway sects, Qadariya, Mu'tazila, Jahmiyya etc.. they are Al Firqatul Najiya, not these students of Sheikh Al Najdy,you got the wrong Muhammad Salafis, it's Muhammad ibn Abdillah (saw) not Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

Didn't the messenger say Islam started as something strange and will return as something,so glad tidings to Ghuraba? He also talked about taifa mansura,they are sahih hadiths.Just because the majority say one thing doesn't mean it's the haqq.Secondly Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab(May Allah have mercy on his soul) called upon Arabia from the darkness of grave worship/shirk to the light of pure tawhid.The Sheikh wasn't the first to try to purify Islam from the filth of the innovators who were dominant at the time.Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah noticed how innovators were everywhere,so did Imam ibn hanbal

 

[Zayd]

Didn't the messenger say Islam started as something strange and will return as something,so glad tidings to Ghuraba? He also talked about taifa mansura,they are sahih hadiths.Just because the majority say one thing doesn't mean it's the haqq.Secondly Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab(May Allah have mercy on his soul) called upon Arabia from the darkness of grave worship/shirk to the light of pure tawhid.The Sheikh wasn't the first to try to purify Islam from the filth of the innovators who were dominant at the time.Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah noticed how innovators were everywhere,so did Imam ibn hanbal

Sheikh Ibn Taymiyya (rah) differed with the Ahlul Sunnah on 11 Mas'alas (issues) on Aqeedah, and we do not shy away in saying that he said some disturbing things, however the man was a learned man and wrote large books, may Allah have mercy on him.

He was the first to pen the "Tawheed trinity" that Salafis always use today ala Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab, they are;

Tawheed Uluuhiyah
Tawheed Rubuubiyah
Tawheed Asmaa'i Wa Sifaat

Show me any text from the Salaf where this concept was mentioned, and then we'll carry on this discussion. Every single Salafi 'Aqeedah course goes by these three, therefore it should have a basis in the Sunnah no? If not, it is a invented matter.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

@Zayd Even the word Aqeedah wasn't even mentioned by the Rasuul(3alayhi sallatu wa salaam) or the salaf.I won't go deep into this discussion for the sake of not risking my deeds.I remember listening to a very knowledgeable sheikh who spoke on this matter.He mentioned that the Salaf never mentioned these but the idea of tawheed(i.e correct aqeedah) is spoken about in the Quran and in the Hadith indirectly.It was the scholars later on who had labelled the terms and organized it in a way even the simplest person can understand.If you are implying the those on the Salafi manhaj are somehow innovators because of this then you are completely wrong cause Tawheed ulohiyya,rubbobiya and asma wa sifaat are ideas that the messenger taught but just didn't give it names.Anyways my knowledge is spent here and I don't want to risk my Akhira.

Here is a link to someone more knowledgeable then my jaahil mind explaining it https://islamqa.info/en/26338

 

[Zayd]

@Zayd Even the word Aqeedah wasn't even mentioned by the Rasuul(3alayhi sallatu wa salaam) or the salaf.I won't go deep into this discussion for the sake of not risking my deeds.I remember listening to a very knowledgeable sheikh who spoke on this matter.He mentioned that the Salaf never mentioned these but the idea of tawheed(i.e correct aqeedah) is spoken about in the Quran and in the Hadith indirectly.It was the scholars later on who had labelled the terms and organized it in a way even the simplest person can understand.If you are implying the those on the Salafi manhaj are somehow innovators because of this then you are completely wrong cause Tawheed ulohiyya,rubbobiya and asma wa sifaat are ideas that the messenger taught but just didn't give it names.Anyways my knowledge is spent here and I don't want to risk my Akhira.

Here is a link to someone more knowledgeable then my jaahil mind explaining it https://islamqa.info/en/26338

'Aqeedah was mentioned by the Salaf bro, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal wrote lengths on it when refuting the other sects. And no, if the Salaf didn't come with this concept, then we reject it because, in 'Aqeedah and Usul-ud Din there are no Ikhtilaaf (differences of opinion), however in Fiqh there is.

Aqeedah is a Usuuli principle, and so if two parties are saying two different things, only one of them is correct.

Akhi I don't go on IslamQA , it's run by scholars who are members of the Saudi Council of 'Ulema the likes of Salih Al Munajjid.

Prior to ibn Taymiyya (rah), we have no textual nor scriptural evidence for this concept, on the basis of that I reject it.

Tawheed is believing that Allah is one without partners, La Ilaha Ilallah, Muhammad Rasulullah, none of this Uluuhiya and Rubuubiya!

 

[CrazyWadaad]

@Zayd Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal is many centuries after not only the salaf but also after Imam Malik,Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Shafi3i.No salaf has mentioned aqeeda(the word not the concept).
Btw read the link because that's basically my standpoint on Aqeedah,Tawheed etc.

Anyways I don't understand why many people not only on this forum, but the wider Muslim community try to make those on the salafi manhaj as people who made things up when everything we try to follow is to be exactly like Rasulullah and the As7aab.Following Qur'an and Sunnah to the letter.Maybe that is their problem with us,not accepting distortions and bid3a in 3ibaada like Mawlid.It sickens me to see Juhaal from the general masses still practising it.Even the Messenger(pbuh) would be angry with those who celebrate his birthday.Didnt he say that the Muslims would follow every step of Yahuud and nasaara? Mawlid is no different from their kufr celebrations!

 

[54321]

@Zayd Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal is many centuries after not only the salaf but also after Imam Malik,Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Shafi3i.No salaf has mentioned aqeeda(the word not the concept).
Btw read the link because that's basically my standpoint on Aqeedah,Tawheed etc.

Anyways I don't understand why many people not only on this forum, but the wider Muslim community try to make those on the salafi manhaj as people who made things up when everything we try to follow is to be exactly like Rasulullah and the As7aab.Following Qur'an and Sunnah to the letter.Maybe that is their problem with us,not accepting distortions and bid3a in 3ibaada like Mawlid.It sickens me to see Juhaal from the general masses still practising it.Even the Messenger(pbuh) would be angry with those who celebrate his birthday.Didnt he say that the Muslims would follow every step of Yahuud and nasaara? Mawlid is no different from their kufr celebrations!

What do you think of this article?
http://asharisassemble.com/2016/01/04/how-muslim-scholars-are-destroying-islam/

 

[CrazyWadaad]

What do you think of this article?
http://asharisassemble.com/2016/01/04/how-muslim-scholars-are-destroying-islam/

Read it,all I can say to the topic they were discussing is Allahu a3lam.They are discussing a very heavy topic.Thats all I can say for this lol

 

[54321]

Read it,all I can say to the topic they were discussing is Allahu a3lam.They are discussing a very heavy topic.Thats all I can say for this lol

That's cool. & Sorry, I should have just said my post was in relation to your question about why people think salafi's are dishonest.