I've had many people since 2015 ask that "Ogaden region" be banned from the forum

Somalispot referendum #1: Should "Ogaden region" be called something else?


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Abdalla

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Calling it Ogaden is what TPLF would have loved because through tribalizing the region you turned the struggle on its head

It's no longer a collective Somali struggle anymore but a tribal one & good luck enticing anyone to join you especially Somalis whom can't look past it

This gives the TPLF the ammo to use the various tribes against each other, this is also terrible for the o.g clan as we saw before, they get all the repercussions for ONLF attacks collectively while none of the other tribes there suffer because of this tribal emphasis

A unified movement that is mixed and even if no one else joins using an all inclusive Somali name with a few token mixed clans for representation will not only win more hearts and minds, but the TFLF is forced to hurt other clans if they go the collective punishment route instead of just targetting a single clan.

This will unleash the hell hounds of chaos and lead to their quick demise with swelling recruits all over the Somali peninsula joining this mixed struggle, hence the names are of paramount importance here both of the region and the rebel movement but going clan route is not only foolish but genocidal

If a single tribal movement forced the TPLF to abandon collective punishment in favour of settlement, then a mixed one would have destroyed it

This is a widely used argument by cuqdad filled clannists like you. As if having having 'somali' in its name will motivate other clans to join the struggle. Do I need to remind you that every Somali rebel groups (SSDF, SNM, SPM, USC) had Somali in their name but were still associated with a clan. ONLF's predecessor was Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) and they were still associated with Ogadens. I say let other clans first pick up the arms, then we can discuss name change. Until then, work on your cuqdad and inferiority complex.
 

Arma

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Im not Ogaden nor am i from the place, but i will say this, i just find it very odd how people always bash the Ogaden clan. Saying how they're under Amxaro occupation and oppression and "gumaysi" and so on. While from the same breath saying how their own clan are a significant number and percentage in the region. Very odd that is.
 
This is a widely used argument by cuqdad filled clannists like you. As if having having 'somali' in its name will motivate other clans to join the struggle. Do I need to remind you that every Somali rebel groups (SSDF, SNM, SPM, USC) had Somali in their name but were still associated with a clan. ONLF's predecessor was Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) and they were still associated with Ogadens. I say let other clans first pick up the arms, then we can discuss name change. Until then, work on your cuqdad and inferiority complex.

Those rebel groups you listed fought other Somalis exclusively and not TPLF only like the ONLF does

Massive difference there, using Somali name to kill other Somalis will not work whether it's tribal or fighting Somali government like SSDF, SNM, USC etc.

I find it astonishing you had the nerve to come after me while you supported C/Yusuf and all other Puntland leaders whom shamelessly handed innocent Ogaden to TPLF in return for ammo/money in record numbers.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself, I would have publicly disowned any leader even if it's my own father for handing over innocent Muslims to infidels butchers, but you of course lack that basic etiquette of shame @Adolf-Hitler
 

Simodi

Chilling in Quljeed
The whole Somali region was never called Ogaden. The Somali region today compromises the region of Harar, the region of Bale, the region of Boran and parts of Scioa. Using Ogaden is like naming Puntland , Nugaalland.

Map of 1936
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Map today.

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I rest my case we have won the poll!
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
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Those rebel groups you listed fought other Somalis exclusively and not TPLF only like the ONLF does

Massive difference there, using Somali name to kill other Somalis will not work whether it's tribal or fighting Somali government like SSDF, SNM, USC etc.

I find it astonishing you had the nerve to come after me while you supported C/Yusuf and all other Puntland leaders whom shamelessly handed innocent Ogaden to TPLF in return for ammo/money in record numbers.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself, I would have publicly disowned any leader even if it's my own father for handing over innocent Muslims to infidels butchers, but you of course lack that basic etiquette of shame @Adolf-Hitler

You're a sick qabilist who comes here to win some souls. Why are you tagging our Ogaden residence Adolf hitler? There's no need to derail the topic when you're cornered and make this about AY.

The fact remains that whether a group has a qabil name or a somali name, they will always be associated with a qabil. But an inferiority complex ridden bakhti like you will always find a reason not to join a noble cause, despite their qabil name. Why don't you find excuses for their struggle, like you do for caydid and co.

At the end of the day, the name Ogaden will be forced upon your throat, just like AY airport was forced upon you.
 
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Arma

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Even from beyond the grave, Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) still has people shook up.
 
Even from beyond the grave, Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) still has people shook up.

Your cheerleading for that mule is pathetic sxb, I thought you had more backbone then blind sheeple follow

You can't champion ONLF causes while supporting the leaders that handed them over on a mass scale for ammo just because they are from your tribe

The Somali galbeed war during the kacaan had wide participation, we all know who the generals were, who the traitors were and the group's that participated in the most numbers, it's one of the few points @waraabe makes that I agree with

@Abdalla

Your a grown man calaacalka jooji stick with facts no need for emotions you came looking for me

I find it ironic how you reconcile your faux PRO ONLF stance, whilst being pro TPLF and supporting successive Puntland leaderships that handed Ogadens over to TPLF for ammo/money including our women, even worse you continue to support this pathetic leadership that until this day is still Pro TPLF

Whilst in Dhuusamareeb 12 of my kin lost their life protecting a wounded ONLF fighter the TPLF came after when ICU was defeated, the same ICU that was Pro ONLF and which you were against whilst cheerleading for Xabashis and your uncle yeey

There is no shame if the leadership of your kinship were overwhelmingly traitors and you simply oppose their dhabodilifnino which is what I would have done.

But to support them in this treachery then be a shameless munafiq pro quasi faux ONLF backer shedding crocodile tears whilst attacking me is beyond mental retardation

Brother @Adolf-Hitler is relevant to this conversation to showcase your shameless hypocrisy.
 
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Doesn't this fool get tired of spewing the same nonsense everyday. Nobody is buying his bullshit claim that habar gidir is patriotic or selfless, i wonder what drugs he is on to even believe that...go seek help you dumbass .

We need Liyuu police to take care of these cockroaches again
 
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