Jeegaan sent threats to reer Awdal " fight us or STFU and sit down! "

We've been telling these guys to fight us since the laascaanood beef bruv. It ain't nothing new. We're ready for them. Gadabursi ain't like dhulbahaante. Dhulbahaante attacked because they didn't want to be apart of SL. Gadabursi don't see a problem with SL so it's different.
 

Araabi

Awdalite
There are 10k Somaliland soldiers who are Samaroon who are stationed in Awdal including two high ranking senior commanders. Everyone is on a payroll. These are all clan militias. Everyone is loyal to their pocket and how much they're getting paid. Nobody really has any sort of attachment to SL. When security breaks down and you can't pay your soldiers then you become a clan militia. That's how it works.
 
There are 10k Somaliland soldiers who are Samaroon who are stationed in Awdal including two high ranking senior commanders. Everyone is on a payroll. These are all clan militias. Everyone is loyal to their pocket and how much they're getting paid. Nobody really has any sort of attachment to SL. When security breaks down and you can't pay your soldiers then you become a clan militia. That's how it works.
Maybe that's in Somalia but here the last word belongs to the elders if they're fed up with SL then they can leave including all members of the armed and security forces.
 

Araabi

Awdalite
Maybe that's in Somalia but here the last word belongs to the elders if they're fed up with SL then they can leave including all members of the armed and security forces.

You're right, it's the clan elders who have the power. Everyone in SL is loyal to his clan. That's just the reality of Somali politics.
 
Like I can’t believe you guys don’t think Awdal clan leaders weren’t brought off, the same way as SSC clan leaders were to be in somaliland,
 
You're right, it's the clan elders who have the power. Everyone in SL is loyal to his clan. That's just the reality of Somali politics.
No offence, but doesn’t that just mean the guys that are promoting awdal to separate are waffling? If they don’t have an ounce to back up their words that is.
 
No offence, but doesn’t that just mean the guys that are promoting awdal to separate are waffling? If they don’t have an ounce to back up their words that is.

Logically speaking there is no reason why they would fight Isaaq? What for? Appeasing the ego of clueless diaspora? Or non existing notion of Somalnimo?What's there waiting for them in Mogadishu to revolt for? They have fixed seats under 4.5 there is 0 motivation to fight Isaaq logically speaking. Even fighting for IOG to join his country doesn't make sense because Awdal is +60% of the population of Djibouti and that would make Sameroon the majority in Djibouti and thus threatened his hold on power.


I never understood why Somalians or Darood egging Sameroon to rise up against Isaaq. They're literally the V.P, second highest position in Somaliland and their regions are more developed than Isaaq eastern regions. In Somalia they have 9 seats out of 275, drop in a sea without any leverage. In Somaliland they have 13 seats out of 82 which is 15% much higher leverage and representation than Somalia. This weird irredentism never made sense to me. Off course Somaliland is not perfect but even the blind could see that Sameroon are better off in Somaliland than Somalia.
 
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No offence, but doesn’t that just mean the guys that are promoting awdal to separate are waffling? If they don’t have an ounce to back up their words that is.
It’s not waffle, this is the beginning, we are building a foundation, how long do you think it took SSC to go their own way even though darood is a slur in somaliland society, being called faqash on a day to day basis, never been trusted
 

Araabi

Awdalite
No offence, but doesn’t that just mean the guys that are promoting awdal to separate are waffling? If they don’t have an ounce to back up their words that is.

Most Samaroon who live in Awdal are indifferent. They look at the Awdal State guys as qurbajoog who choose to cause trouble from a far away land where their property and wealth are safe. They don't lose anything in war so there hasn't been much support for the cause outside of Facebook and social media. The clan elders and hierarchy in Awdal understand this very well. The difference between Samaroon and Dhulbahante is that the Samaroon never really saw themselves outside of the framework of SL whereas the Dhulbahante always had one foot out and one foot in since very recently.

But if Biixi destroys the country by incessantly making so much enemies and attempting to stifle future elections by getting into conflict then its very possible that things could go back to post civil war status quo where clan militias take responsibility for all security.
 

Araabi

Awdalite
Logically speaking there is no reason why they would fight Isaaq? What for? Appeasing the ego of clueless diaspora? Or non existing notion of Somalnimo?What's there waiting for them in Mogadishu to revolt for? They have fixed seats under 4.5 there is 0 motivation to fight Isaaq logically speaking. Even fighting for IOG to join his country doesn't make sense because Awdal is +60% of the population of Djibouti and that would make Sameroon the majority in Djibouti and thus threatened his hold on power.


I never understood why Somalians or Darood egging Sameroon to rise up against Isaaq. They're literally the V.P, second highest position in Somaliland and their regions are more developed than Isaaq eastern regions. In Somalia they have 9 seats out of 275, drop in a sea without any leverage. In Somaliland they have 13 seats out of 82 which is 15% much higher leverage and representation than Somalia. This weird irredentism never made sense to me. Off course Somaliland is not perfect but even the blind could see that Sameroon are better off in Somaliland than Somalia.

Most novices here don't know what happened to the Samaroon in Djibouti who were ethnically cleansed which is why I laugh at the suggestion that IOG all of a sudden cares about us.

At least in SL there are elections and you can talk without the fear of disappearing and being tortured for years in a cell unlike in Djibouti where opposition politicians are jailed, killed and tortured and exiled to other countries.

Guarantee no Samaroon who actually lives back home wants to share anything with Djibouti and if they had to choose they'd choose SL anyday.
 

Makadoor

Gashv30
Logically speaking there is no reason why they would fight Isaaq? What for? Appeasing the ego of clueless diaspora? Or non existing notion of Somalnimo?What's there waiting for them in Mogadishu to revolt for? They have fixed seats under 4.5 there is 0 motivation to fight Isaaq logically speaking. Even fighting for IOG to join his country doesn't make sense because Awdal is +60% of the population of Djibouti and that would make Sameroon the majority in Djibouti and thus threatened his hold on power.


I never understood why Somalians or Darood egging Sameroon to rise up against Isaaq. They're literally the V.P, second highest position in Somaliland and their regions are more developed than Isaaq eastern regions. In Somalia they have 9 seats out of 275, drop in a sea without any leverage. In Somaliland they have 13 seats out of 82 which is 15% much higher leverage and representation than Somalia. This weird irredentism never made sense to me. Off course Somaliland is not perfect but even the blind could see that Sameroon are better off in Somaliland than Somalia.
A lot of fallacies in what you're saying.

If the elders and political unit of the region come to an agreement to establish a seperate regional administration, it will be Isaaq who will come seeking war. And no one wants to join Djibouti. You made that up.

The VP position is merely ceremonial and bears no power. No one cares about any seats or these positions anymore. It's all about establishing a regional administration, not what you make it out to be about Mogadishu or anything else. Our land was developed solely by us. What does our development have to do with Eastern Isaaq?

Dhulkayaga waxaad ugu dhegan tihiin garan mayno. Meeshaan doono hadaan gayno maxaa dan ku leedihiin. Waxaa kaa sii daran idinko HJ ah oo nooga waramaya arimahayaga markaanan dhul dad iyo dhalasho wadaagin.
 

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