Just watched a 5h long interview with former sr Sudani secret agent about Horn of Africa and Ethiopia

[EritreanPost_]

He was talking about the situation in the 70s and 80s, today's/more recent situation is very, very different. The OLF was weak because of many reasons, none of which had to do with lack of support, or lack of bravery among Oromos, etc. It was weak mostly due to leadership inefficiency. Just look at how most of the OLF leaders fled in the 1990s, when the TPLF-EPRDF-EPLF attacked their disarmed, encamped soldiers.
TPLF was the best after the EPLF, true, because for one thing, it is easier to unite and manage a smaller region, than it is to manage and unite a much larger nation whose relations with ethiopia differs depending on the region.
but, still, without the other parties of the eprdf, opdo and andm, tplf wouldn't have ruled for 5 years, forget about 27. oromo and amara elites in the eprdf mistrusted each other to the point that the tplf was able to exploit that and rule. when those elites cooperated, look at how fast the once mighty, armed to the teeth tplf, fled into obscurity and irrelevance.

The only reason why TPLF were able to rule Ethiopia is because Eritrea built up the TPLF armed and trained them, gave them protection from the Ethiopian Derg army and Eritrean EPLF were driving force when the coalition entered Addis Abeba in 1991.
TPLF and OLF had tensions and so the TPLF called Eritrean EPLF to crush OLF during the OLF revolt in 1991.

Then when TPLF was in a position of power they went to war with Eritrea in 1998 and with Somalia in 2006. but TPLF was punished by the Eritrean army for that.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

The only reason why TPLF were able to rule Ethiopia is because Eritrea built up the TPLF armed and trained them, gave them protection from the Ethiopian Derg army and Eritrean EPLF were driving force when the coalition entered Addis Abeba in 1991.
TPLF and OLF had tensions and so the TPLF called Eritrean EPLF to crush OLF during the OLF revolt in 1991.

Then when TPLF was in a position of power they went to war with Eritrea in 1998 and with Somalia in 2006. but TPLF was punished by the Eritrean army for that.

the eritreans became irrelevant in ethiopian internal affairs/politics the second they left ethiopia in 1997 and then 1998 the badme war broke out,

 

[dekiteshim]

the eritreans became irrelevant in ethiopian internal affairs/politics the second they left ethiopia in 1997 and then 1998 the badme war broke out,

Eritrea left in 1993.

That being said, EPRDF had their own tailored “containment policy” specifically for Eritrea. Another thing that isn’t spoken about enough is that during Abiy Ahmed’s tenure in the NISS (Ethiopian intelligence agency), he was working as a double agent leaking information to Andargachew Tsege (Secretary General of Ginbot 7 at the time, now high up in FANO) who was being hosted in Eritrea at the time alongside OLF. In short, Abiy was at one point a spy for Shabiya. So while it may not have seemed like it, Eritrea had very much penetrated the internal politics of Ethiopia

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Eritrea left in 1993.

That being said, EPRDF had their own tailored “containment policy” specifically for Eritrea. Another thing that isn’t spoken about enough is that during Abiy Ahmed’s tenure in the NISS (Ethiopian intelligence agency), he was working as a double agent leaking information to Andargachew Tsege (Secretary General of Ginbot 7 at the time, now high up in FANO) who was being hosted in Eritrea at the time alongside OLF. In short, Abiy was at one point a spy for Shabiya. So while it may not have seemed like it, Eritrea had very much penetrated the internal politics of Ethiopia

Eritrea getting intel on Ethiopia and having any influence/power in its internal affairs are two different matters my friend. It was irrelevant after 1993 then.

 

[Flightboi]

You're implying Muslim Oromo want to balkanize Ethiopia, which is false. I can understand why Somalis want Ethiopia to disintegrate (until they see the consequences are non stop border wars, which make Ethiopias current situation look like a walk in the park). But Oromos, are different.
The only way that would gain popularity is if somehow, Amara extremist-elites, get power.. which is very unlikely seeing as how they lack allies throughout Ethiopia, especially in Oromia.
This aint the days of haile Selassie and menelik.

As far as the language thing goes, it's a non-issue because many Oromo see Amharic as our 2nd language, not as a "colonizers language." In my family for example, everyone speaks 2 or more languages, which includes Amharic and Afaan Oromo. My dad spoke about 5 languages: Somali, Amharic, Afaan Oromo, etc. Knowing many languages is an asset, not a liability, even IF its "the language of the colonizers."
Oromo nationalism and it's potency, strength, etc, isn't only or necessarily dependent upon the language alone. Enough Oromo speak it and are learning it, writing in it, developing it, etc, for it to always exist.

So the majority of Oromo don't support OLA? OLA online keeps saying 100% of Oromo support OLA

 

[Flightboi]

We don't care about what others think of us we rule Ethiopia that is all that matters

Is it true that 100% of Oromo support OLA? OLA online always says that all Oromo support them.

 

[New World]

Is it true that 100% of Oromo support OLA? OLA online always says that all Oromo support them.

I think most Oromo support OLA goals but not the organisation. I don't think any organisation can have 100% support.

 

[Nes]

Crazy thing is that they have the power to make their language supreme inside of their region. They can just ban all schools, including private ones, from teaching Amharic until high school. Boom done. This would ensure that Amharic becomes & remains a secondary language in Oromia.

What I realized is that Oromo want to become Xabash. They just want to be accepted. All of this huuhaa about nationalism, liberation etc.. is a front. The only real anti-xabash group in Ethiopia are Somalis.

I think the conflict between hararaghe arsi jimma and bale oromos who are Muslim and the shewa Tulama is gonna explode if we play our cards right we can assimilate the hararaghe and arsi/bale oromos.

 

[NidarNidar]

I think the conflict between hararaghe arsi jimma and bale oromos who are Muslim and the shewa Tulama is gonna explode if we play our cards right we can assimilate the hararaghe and arsi/bale oromos.

Reabsorbed the assimilated Somalis

 

[Som]

Arabic is one of the hardest languages to learn and am late for it.

If you speak Somali Arabic gets a bit easier. Just hanging out with Arabs I was shocked at how many words in common we have .

 

[thisthatone]

Oromos are doomed in a way, no other ethnic group in the horn has a religious divide.

Are you fucking dumb? You literally have Somalis slaughtering each other in the name of some fake qabil made up to worship Arabs Oromos despite being Christian’s and Muslims seem to do better than us