Khaatumo takes over Ceerigabo

[Yazi]

You braindead hanicap, election registration is not a metric to judge population by. Expecially when no one participates in idoor elections that no one but deluded idoors participate in.

Case in point, Minnesota has a population of about 5 million people, but only 259,000 people registered to vote, judging by those numbers, is that an accurate method to ascertain population figures? Or are you using a retarded method? I’ll let you decide.
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In absence of detailed population census, elections are the most objective metric. I brought Isaaq vote from Somaliland elections side by side with Darood registered voters in Puntland upcoming elections (clearly in favor of Warsangali) to prove the Isaaq majority,

100k registered Isaaq vote vs 33k registered Warsangali vote.
59k turnout Isaaq vote vs 33k registered Warsangali vote.
28k turnout HY vote vs 33k Warsangali registered vote.


Anyway you look at it, Isaaq are the majority in Sanaag. Somaliland and Puntland use the same IRIS biometric registration system, you have run out of excuses.

 

[Ozark]

In absence of detailed population census, elections are the most objective metric. I

No it’s not, who told you that?

Unless there is a reliable census, you cannot ascertain population figures, expecially using some bogus election registration, which idoors cook up.

Last UNHR census had population in Warsan towns the most in Sanaag, I’d sooner take that as being more reliable

 

[Yazi]

No it’s not, who told you that?

It's common sense. Somalis are amongst the most politically active societies. You don't run for elections in your settlement, then you're probably can not compete or an outsider. Warsans support Puntland so there is no room to argue lack of participation due to the Isaaq boggy man. 12k turnout in Isaaq elections, 33k registration in Darood elections sounds about right in determining Warsan population base.

Unless there is a reliable census, you cannot ascertain population figures, expecially using some bogus election registration, which idoors cook up.

It's interesting you did not call PL registration bogus despite being a carbon copy of Somaliland. You can not fake IRIS registration, the great thing bout it we can count every vote for every candidate. I understand the same method produced fewer numbers with the Warsans, which made you all denounce the whole scheme, despite you having no problems with friend using PL figures previously. We steered away from the topic. Ceerigaabo will forever remain the seat of Muuse Ismaciil.

 

[Ozark]

It's common sense. Somalis are amongst the most politically active societies.

Oh yes there so politically active but never had a nation wide election in their history.

Warsans support Puntland so there is no room to argue lack of participation due to the Isaaq boggy man.

It doesn't matter what they support genius, you can't use election registration to gauge population, majority of people don't vote, especially in 3rd world countries.

Let's face simple facts, election registration or even people going to the polls does not give you an idea of population figures, using your logic, there's only 250k Minnesotans when there is 5 million.

Last UN census had Warsangeli towns as being the most populous as a standalone clan. That gives me a better idea than some election nonsense.

 

[Yazi]

Oh yes there so politically active but never had a nation wide election in their history.

We did have elections and referendums for the whole country. Politics is the Somali pastime, as evident by this very website.

It doesn't matter what they support genius, you can't use election registration to gauge population, majority of people don't vote, especially in 3rd world countries.

Off course, I can. Your whole premise that Isaaq cook their numbers so their elections are not reliable, but when the same Darood organize their own elections using the same method and come up with pitiful numbers it is suddenly not a good metric.

Let's face simple facts, election registration or even people going to the polls does not give you an idea of population figures, using your logic, there's only 250k Minnesotans when there is 5 million.

It is very simple every election has a registration and turnout percentage. In Somalia all clans wish to get representation in the government/council/parliament, I see no difference between Isaaq or Darood proclivity to politics. It remains to be seen, without a population base you can not compete in elections.

Last UN census had Warsangeli towns as being the most populous as a standalone clan. That gives me a better idea than some election nonsense.

There is no census by UN, there is an estimation huge difference. If there was a census, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Even by the estimation, Isaaq are either majority or 50/50 with Darood. Registration and election paint a much clearer picture of the people in the area. If there was no election I will happily use the estimation but we do and as such we own Ceerigaabo and Sanaag.

 

[Ozark]

We did have elections and referendums for the whole country.

No we did not.

Off course, I can. Your whole premise that Isaaq cook their numbers so their elections are not reliable, but when the same Darood organize their own elections using the same method and come up with pitiful numbers it is suddenly not a good metric.

Your not reading what I wrote then. My entire premise is that you cannot use election registrations as a metric for population study. Using your logic, I must ask again, is 250k registered Minnesotans a pitiful number that reflects their population?

It is very simple every election has a registration and turnout percentage. In Somalia all clans wish to get representation in the government/council/parliament, I see no difference between Isaaq or Darood proclivity to politics. It remains to be seen, without a population base you can not compete in elections.

Somalia uses 4.5 in their elections. No one goes to the polls and even if they did, it's still not a basis to gauge population figures. I don't understand why that's a hard concept for you to grasp.

There is no census by UN, there is an estimation huge difference. If there was a census, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Even by the estimation, Isaaq are either majority or 50/50 with Darood. Registration and election paint a much clearer picture of the people in the area. If there was no election I will happily use the estimation but we do and as such we own Ceerigaabo and Sanaag.

No pal, check the UNHR 2014 population study, Warsangeli is by far the most numerous in Sanaag, this is not even up for debate, I'm just engaging you cause I'm bored.

 

[Ismacilssc]

I think you beat around the bush a little.
I have made a statement about Ceerigaabo.
Address that first before you bring in the villages of Eastern Sanaag.

Do you deny that Ceerigaabo is a city with an Isaaq majority?
Do you deny it was one of the first cities to fall to SNM all the way back in 1989?
Do you deny the historicity of the Isaaq within the Ceerigaabo area?

Do you genuinely believe we will sit by and allow Ceerigaabo in ay rabshad ka dhacdo?
Are you aware of what happened the last time the Daarood minority caused trouble in 2011?

Not a single Isaaq, and I can say this with absolute certainty will tolerate any trouble from Ilma Daarood with Ceerigaabo.

No we don't believe shit and from your endeavors in sool I can't really take any of your bs seriously were taking all of SSC not just a percentages

 

[Griezmann7711]

2km of Yubbe is ceelka Yubbe and birxamar 18km West of Yubbe stop claiming my towns

Birxamar is actually 14,9 km from Yubbe it only takes 16 minutes with car, and what do you mean stop claiming my towns lmao, you just claimed birxamar which is a hy town. You love to claim Hy land, it's not the first time you did it.

Isaaq really live in their own world lmao

He's right tho. Musa Ismail Gadhweyns which is like a sub sub sub sub clan of Habar Yunis alone kicked all Hartis out of Ceerigaabo. Daarood are the ones living in their own world, Ceerigaabo is not like Gaalkacyo. Daaroods live in Ceerigaabo because Isaaq let them come back after they got kicked out in the 90s.

"There were no other Harti in the town, except for two girls"

MJ included.

Habar Younis are the ones who came into Harti land to hang the Gorgorad flag. Your people instigated it and got what they were looking for. Stay out of other people's land, it is a very simple concept.

Who lied to you and said any parts of Ceerigaabo is Harti land?

Somaliland flag will fly high over all parts of Ceerigaabo, and if you guys don't like it then get out of our city you filthy squatters, it's that simple. You are not native there, you have no business in Ceerigaabo.


The founders of Ceerigaabo are Habar Yunis, the majority population are Habar Yunis and the ones that built Ceerigaabo are Habar Yunis. The business and seats in Ceerigaabo are all majority Habar Yunis, Habar Yunis run Ceerigaabo. Keep drooling over another clans land you thirsty dogs are homeless we know. That's why Daaroods love to squat and come to Isaaq and Hawiye cities and towns beacuse you guys are homeless and what you call cities are dusty villages. No wonder Daarood drool over Hawiye and Isaaq land, Daarood lands are mostly dusty deserts. Just like how Hawiye and Isaaq made you guys homeless in the 90s, we will make you homeless again if you guys don't behave like the guests you are. You faqash are braindead people. Were will Dhulbahante flee this time? Laascaanood? You can't go to Laascaanood, you may go to Buhoodle perhaps? You need to go through Isaaq territory then, good luck with that lol.

 

[Griezmann7711]

Whole 5 days away from 18 May... Goes to show these folks were just looking for trouble trying to celebrate in the Harti side of the city. . Testing the waters I suppose.

Or it was a provocation by Bixis clique to sour Harti and GX and get the latter fully in the war

No such thing as a Harti side, this is not Gaalkacyo, Harti only live there because Habar Yunis allowed them to come back after they got kicked out in the 90s.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Birxamar is actually 14,9 km from Yubbe it only takes 16 minutes with car, and what do you mean stop claiming my towns lmao, you just claimed birxamar which is a hy town. You love to claim Hy land, it's not the first time you did it.

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He's right tho. Musa Ismail Gadhweyns which is like a sub sub sub sub clan of Habar Yunis alone kicked all Hartis out of Ceerigaabo. Daarood are the ones living in their own world, Ceerigaabo is not like Gaalkacyo. Daaroods live in Ceerigaabo because Isaaq let them come back after they got kicked out in the 90s.

"There were no other Harti in the town, except for two girls"

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MJ included.

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Who lied to you and said any parts of Ceerigaabo is Harti land?

Somaliland flag will fly high over all parts of Ceerigaabo, and if you guys don't like it then get out of our city you filthy squatters, it's that simple. You are not native there, you have no business in Ceerigaabo.


The founders of Ceerigaabo are Habar Yunis, the majority population are Habar Yunis and the ones that built Ceerigaabo are Habar Yunis. The business and seats in Ceerigaabo are all majority Habar Yunis, Habar Yunis run Ceerigaabo. Keep drooling over another clans land you thirsty dogs are homeless we know. That's why Daaroods love to squat and come to Isaaq and Hawiye cities and towns beacuse you guys are homeless and what you call cities are dusty villages. No wonder Daarood drool over Hawiye and Isaaq land, Daarood lands are mostly dusty deserts. Just like how Hawiye and Isaaq made you guys homeless in the 90s, we will make you homeless again if you guys don't behave like the guests you are. You faqash are braindead people. Were will Dhulbahante flee this time? Laascaanood? You can't go to Laascaanood, you may go to Buhoodle perhaps? You need to go through Isaaq territory then, good luck with that lol.

Who lied to you, and said that the nonsensical word "Faqash" is offensive?
Insult us all you want, Ceerigaabo calanka Khaatumo baa ka lula as I type this. Ka nax oo nafta waa.

 

[Man with a garuun]

They're Langaab in Ceerigaabo/Sanaag as proven by 2021 elections. Muuse Ismaciil alone accumulated more vote than the entire confederation of Harti during local council elections.

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Harti neither registered nor voted in SL elections, so those figures don't mean much. They are not reflective of the real population numbers.

Lastly, once the dust settles in Laascaanood and Sool region and we drive out Somaliland fully, we're coming for our section of Ceerigaabo. We'll see at that time if those bogus population numbers have any real meaning. Right now, we're concentrating on Sool.

 

[Griezmann7711]

Who lied to you, and said that the nonsensical word "Faqash" is offensive?
Insult us all you want, Ceerigaabo calanka Khaatumo baa ka lula as I type this. Ka nax oo nafta waa.

Lmao do you even know what faqash means? You guys throw around the word iidoor like Isaaqs going to cry over getting called choose for me/trader. That's a compliment, even when you guys try to find an insult you're just showing we do everything better than you guys. Any khatuumo flag flying over ceerigaabo in the purpose to undermine the Somaliland flag and irritate Isaaqs will be burned. You can have it as bracelet tho or in the future you can wave it in ceerigaabo if you guys behave like normal people.

 

[Garaad.XIV]

Kick them Jabertis out,

Build that wall in Eastern Badhan.

 

[Ozark]

Idoor flags will not be tolerated

 

[Abdalla]

War ka carar Hartiga baa Ceerigaabo ka dhacdey

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

War ka carar Hartiga baa Ceerigaabo ka dhacdey

This is fake

There aren't SL flags in our xaafad we were close to the intersection where SL is having their gathering too.

 

[Abdalla]

This is fake

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

They had their gathering in their own xaafad sxb ,nothing happened.

Found a clearer version as you can see no SL flags.

 

[0117]

No we did not.


Your not reading what I wrote then. My entire premise is that you cannot use election registrations as a metric for population study. Using your logic, I must ask again, is 250k registered Minnesotans a pitiful number that reflects their population?

Somalia uses 4.5 in their elections. No one goes to the polls and even if they did, it's still not a basis to gauge population figures. I don't understand why that's a hard concept for you to grasp.

No pal, check the UNHR 2014 population study, Warsangeli is by far the most numerous in Sanaag, this is not even up for debate, I'm just engaging you cause I'm bored.

The UNHR 2014 has been debunked so many times on this forum from members across the whole Somali region.

The UNHR 2014 report said Laasqoray (East Sanaag) district has a "population" of 238,555 whereas Ceerigaabo district has a "population" 205,318

Keep in mind Ceerigaabo district has mixed clans so we're not disputing the "cenus" for tribalistic reasons.It's just the truth.


Even if you dismiss the obvious disparity in the voter registrations you could just take a look at 1960's parliament elections and the constitution referendum vote in 1961.

 

[Burqad]

You braindead hanicap, election registration is not a metric to judge population by. Expecially when no one participates in idoor elections that no one but deluded idoors participate in.

Case in point, Minnesota has a population of about 5 million people, but only 259,000 people registered to vote, judging by those numbers, is that an accurate method to ascertain population figures? Or are you using a retarded method? I’ll let you decide.
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There were 2,511,617 Minnesotans who cast a ballot out of 4,140,218 eligible voters. 259,742 is the amount of Minnesotans who voted for the first time