Kore people of Lamu

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

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Raskambooni is Bajuuni with few somali settlements.
Malindi is mix of Arab yemeni and Bajuun.
Funny thing is there is a very large Italian population in Malindi I don't know how they got there probably when Somalia got independence they moved there but that is a drug trafficking hub.

Also a fertile stretch of land called Mpeketoni in Malindi is owned by kenyatta family and kikuyus they settled in the 70s.


Mombasa Island has Swahilis , OmaniArabs and Somalis but some areas are full of Kenyan mainland immigrants like Likoni.While the the outskirts and some villages are under Mijikenda who are like Mushunguli bantu.

 

[madaxweyne]

Hold up when did we roam Mozambique

its true somalis from mogadishu were the first to export gold from the goldmines of sofala
confirmed by a european scholar joao de barros

 

[madaxweyne]

The baajuuni are stretched from Mombasa all the way to Baraawe. They are a mix of Somalis,Arabs and Bantu.

Kismaayo it self is a Baajuni word meaning the place with fresh water wells.

kismayo is not a bajuni settlement your listening to that crazy somali hating racist grants
kismayo was part of the somalis city states and the ajuraan sultanate and has been somali for a very longtime

i expected false lies from a kenyan nationalist so am not suprised
dont speak on somali issues and stop claiming our cities as kenyan

 

[Juke]

its true somalis from mogadishu were the first to export gold from the goldmines of sofala
confirmed by a european scholar joao de barros
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Reer xamar aren't ethnic Somalis

 

[Pipit]

Please don’t derail. I know you’re cooking up a lengthy response @Grant

 

[Juke]

kismayo is not a bajuni settlement your listening to that crazy somali hating racist grants
kismayo was part of the somalis city states and the ajuraan sultanate and has been somali for a very longtime

i expected false lies from a kenyan nationalist so am not suprised
dont speak on somali issues and stop claiming our cities as kenyan

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Yes, it was originally a small Bajuni village before the Harti merchant seafarers from the north built it up by permission of Syed Barghash.

 

[Pipit]

permission of Syed Barghash.

I knew hartis developed Kismayo (according to Virginia Luling) but when were they allowed by barghash

 

[madaxweyne]

Yes, it was originally a small Bajuni village before the Harti merchant seafarers from the north built it up by permission of Syed Barghash.

stop talking man seyyid bargash was an omani king who ruled in zanzibar and never even governd a single somali street let alone a town i dont know where your reading your history from

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

kismayo is not a bajuni settlement your listening to that crazy somali hating racist grants
kismayo was part of the somalis city states and the ajuraan sultanate and has been somali for a very longtime

i expected false lies from a kenyan nationalist so am not suprised
dont speak on somali issues and stop claiming our cities as kenyan

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There was no Ajuran in Kismaayo stop making up stories.There has never been Ajuran in Jubbaland the coast of Jubbaland was always Bajuun while the hinterland was Wardey and Boran before the Ogaden conquest of Jubbaland as far as Kismaayo and Baraawe and Laamu.

Then MJ came and settled in Kismaayo and its environs.

You are not from Jubbaland nor are your people nor do you have stake go talk about your village in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Juke]

stop talking man seyyid bargash was an omani king who ruled in zanzibar and never even governd a single somali street let alone a town i dont know where your reading your history from

Lol you're nuts. Everyone knows who Syed Barghash was.

The Arabs didn't govern the Somali nomads inland, but the sultan of Zanzibar controlled all the port towns from Warsheikh to kismayo.

The national museum in Mogadishu was the Sultan's palace and was used by his governor.

I knew hartis developed Kismayo (according to Virginia Luling) but when were they allowed by barghash

In the late 1800s. My ancestors were apart of the group that established Kismayo as a town on behalf of Barghash.

 

[madaxweyne]

There was no Ajuran in Kismaayo stop making up stories.There has never been Ajuran in Jubbaland the coast of Jubbaland was always Bajuun while the hinterland was Wardey and Boran before the Ogaden conquest of Jubbaland as far as Kismaayo and Baraawe and Laamu.

Then MJ came and settled in Kismaayo and its environs.

You are not from Jubbaland nor are your people nor do you have stake go talk about your village in the middle of nowhere.

stop lying and go back to the politics section the ajuraan sultanate governd as far as kismayo also thier was never such thing as a jubaland 500 years ago your lack of historic knowldge is showing

you can deceive others but not me

 

[Grant]

At least read your own quote. Merchants from Mogadishu initiated the Sofala gold trade, but they were Shirazi, not Samaale. The Ajuraan never had a port or ships.

 

[madaxweyne]

Lol you're nuts. Everyone knows who Syed Barghash was.

The Arabs didn't govern the Somali nomads inland, but the sultan of Zanzibar controlled all the port towns from Warsheikh to kismayo.

The national museum in Mogadishu was the Sultan's palace and was used by his governor.



In the late 1800s. My ancestors were apart of the group that established Kismayo as a town on behalf of Barghash.

why are you calling people names i know who sultan baragash is he never ruled anything


the omanis where forced to ask permission from the real ruler of the area the geledi under osman ahmed was so weak that they where forced to enter in to an alliance with zanzibar in order to win the bardera wars other then that osman yusuf still ruled the country

please stop sabotaging our history with fake rumours and lies

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

its true somalis from mogadishu were the first to export gold from the goldmines of sofala
confirmed by a european scholar joao de barros
View attachment 119450

stop lying and go back to the politics section the ajuraan sultanate governd as far as kismayo also thier was never such thing as a jubaland 500 years ago your lack of historic knowldge is showing

you can deceive others but not me
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Pathological lies.

Again since when is Marka or Qalafe part of Jubbaland?
Kismaayo was called Ras Ogaden after Ogaden conquest from Baajun.Then the settlement was transformed by harti migration in the late 1800s.

17 th and 16th Century Jubbaland as Far as Garisa and Wajir was under borana and wardey while the coast was under Baajun.

Also stop cutting and posting extracts show me a proper sourced material showing ajuran ruled jubbaland in the 1800s or shut up.
I can also type on MS word and use any font and claim it as original.

 

[Juke]

why are you calling people names i know who sultan baragash is he never ruled anything


the omanis where forced to ask permission from the real ruler of the area the geledi under osman ahmed was so weak that they where forced to enter in to an alliance with zanzibar in order to win the bardera wars other then that osman yusuf still ruled the country

please stop sabotaging our history with fake rumours and lies

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OK, I never said they dominated Somalis inland. The Arabs made peace with the natives.

But the Arabs controlled the town and it's port, it's always been a foreign dominated town.

Mogadishu was only xamarweyne and shingani districts at the time, and foreign origin benadiri were the inhabitants.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

At least read your own quote. Merchants from Mogadishu initiated the Sofala gold trade, but they were Shirazi, not Samaale. The Ajuraan never had a port or ships.

You caught him red handed.
Mogadishu all the way to Mozambique was under Omanis.Before The Europeans I.e the British and Italians came to East Coast of Africa.

He isn't from the region.

In somali we call them India adheyg.com

 

[Juke]

You caught him red handed.
Mogadishu all the way to Mozambique was under Omanis.Before The Europeans I.e the British and Italians came to East Coast of Africa.

He isn't from the region.

In somali we call them India adheyg.com

Boqor Osman was a vassal under the Omanis too, they worked for him in trade (Madow slave transport, goods) and provided soldiers.

 

[madaxweyne]

Pathological lies.

Again since when is Marka or Qalafe part of Jubbaland?
Kismaayo was called Ras Ogaden after Ogaden conquest from Baajun.Then the settlement was transformed by harti migration in the late 1800s.

17 th and 16th Century Jubbaland as Far as Garisa and Wajir was under borana and wardey while the coast was under Baajun.

Also stop cutting and posting extracts show me a proper sourced material showing ajuran ruled jubbaland in the 1800s or shut up.
I can also type on MS word and use any font and claim it as original.

no books or sources i didnt bother to read your garbage
here are the sources for kismayo bieng controlled by somalis from as late as the 1800s


kismayo was controlled by the ajuraan sultanate i think thats clear

the territory of jubbaland was governd by the influential ajuraan sultanate who held sway over the territory followed in turn by geledi sultanate before they were incorporated into british east africa

its all thier you can read it if you want

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

no books or sources i didnt bother to read your garbage
here are the sources for kismayo bieng controlled by somalis from as late as the 1800s


kismayo was controlled by the ajuraan sultanate i think thats clear
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the territory of jubbaland was governd by the influential ajuraan sultanate held sway over the territory followed in turn by geledi sultanate before they were incorporated into british east africa

its all thier you can read it if you want

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There was no Ajuran in Jubbaland all Hogwash and lies.
Fake news.

 

[madaxweyne]

There was no Ajuran in Jubbaland all Hogwash and lies.
Fake news.

you suplied no sources strange how your willing to make stuff up and say some bajuni ajnabis founded the city but yet adamantly deny the truth that the city has allways been a somali city