Landers take it next level

[Gantaal97]

Don't call me naaya you ill-raised, ill-mannered liar. Nobody speaks like you guys, aside from you guys. Most Somalis emulate a neutral accent in official settings aka the Mudug/Central accent.

But I know you guys are allergic to any geographical direction that is not "North" and "South" so I assume your brain is glitching right now.

I have never heard such preposterous claims in my whole life, kulaha people try to sound like North-Westerners.

Somalia's laws and regulations were founded in Mogadishu by SYL aka Somalis from Central and Southern Somalia, not North-Western Somalia.

Mudug was chosen as the standard as it sounds most neutral and most clans can be found there, from Daarood, Hawiye, Madhibaan to Dir and these are the people who decided which language to use as it was their own dialect.

Alhamdullah my parents raised me well and you're free to speak however you like just I'm just disputing the fact that standard is somehow based on mudug and I don't any further discussion about this topic waa bilahi tawfiq

 

[Caaro]

Isaaq are not Dir, theyre not part of the Irir confederation. All clans have equal Somaalinimo. He might be referring to the fact that JSL is almost 100% Somaali. The Somaali Republic, which includes Somaaliland, is only about 80-85 percent Somaali. That means Somaalia Italian has all the ethnic minorities.

SL isn’t almost 100% somali, there are foreigners everywhere. Yemeni and Oromo being the most common followed by somali bantu and others. SL is maybe 90% somali.

 

[Gantaal97]

SL isn’t almost 100% somali, there are foreigners everywhere. Yemeni and Oromo being the most common followed by somali bantu and others. SL is maybe 90% somali.

You just been to the capital lol so JSL is 98% somali

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Even the first Somali dictionary was written by a man from MUDUG, Yasin Osman Keenadiid, who is from the Sultanate of Hobyo ruling family.

His dictionary was the only Somali dictionary for DECADES, but they want to tell us Af-Waqooyi is "standard". Tell more believable lies next time.

Qaamuuska Af-Soomaaliga, 1976 Mogadishu/Firenze, Wasaradda Hiddaha iyo Taclinta Sare

 

[Caaro]

You just been to the capital lol so JSL is 98% somali

Literally maybe the third person I saw in Berbera was white lol. I had an Oromo waiter in Burco. I see foreigners everywhere. SL isnt 98% Somali.

 

[fais]

Even the first Somali dictionary was written by Yasin Osman Keenadiid, who is from the Sultanate of Hobyo ruling family.

His dictionary was the only Somali dictionary for DECADES, but they want to tell us Af-Waqooyi is "standard".

You don't have to dig up all kinds of books sister, everybody know that in the golden age of the former Somali Republic af-waqooyi was the standard dialect in Radio, newspaper and later in TV.

 

[Gantaal97]

Literally maybe the third person I saw in Berbera was white lol. I had an Oromo waiter in Burco. I see foreigners everywhere. SL isnt 98% Somali.

I could say the same thing about Japan in Tokyo Osaka or Kyoto but the fact remains that japan is homogenous nation

 

[Periplus]

Even the BBC knows the truth.

The broadcaster that has traditionally had reer Waqooyi amongst its ranks in the Somali language service.

Source:

BBC - Voices - Multilingual Nation

Voices - The way we speak in the UK today. Voices - Learn about the history of the Somali language

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Even SL’s former colonial power knows the truth.

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Source:

BBC - Voices - Multilingual Nation

Voices - The way we speak in the UK today. Voices - Learn about the history of the Somali language

www.bbc.co.uk

Exactly!

For example, do Southern Somali politicians sound like they are from Hargeisa during interviews or more closely like they are from Galkacyo?

They want to tell us Sheekh Shariif's voice for instance wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb in a Burco Cafe, lmao. Even he still retains parts of his Southern Hawiye accent but is mostly neutral/Mudug-lite.

It's clear which accent is purposefully employed during official broadcasts by prominent Somalis.

 

[Periplus]

This is not even a debate.

The Somali spoken in Mudug is the official standard Somali.

It’s seen as neutral and mutually intelligible by any Somali speaker.

 

[Ozark]

The waqoyi accent is strong in Buudhoodle, waqoyi galbeed, togdheer but not strong in Lascanood and Ceerigabo/Sanaag. If you hear people there talk, it sounds neutral as well. Things to keep in mind as not all of waqoyi region has the accent you guys think. @Pwyneth Galtrow @Periplus

 

[Caaro]

I could say the same thing about Japan in Tokyo Osaka or Kyoto but the fact remains that japan is homogenous nation

actually, you can’t. Tokyo, Osaka, or Kyoto don’t have anywhere near as much foreigners proportionately. They’re all mostly tourists. very VERY few foreigners are citizens or at least permanent residents.

Finally, the vast majority of sl citizens live in like 5 cities so whatever demographics are there can basically be translated over with some minor changes.

 

[fais]

Even the BBC knows the truth.

The broadcaster that has traditionally had reer Waqooyi amongst its ranks in the Somali language service.

View attachment 198475

Source:

BBC - Voices - Multilingual Nation

Voices - The way we speak in the UK today. Voices - Learn about the history of the Somali language

www.bbc.co.uk

Some archived BBC opinion piece doesn't change the fact that the language of fanka, heeso and sugaan, and the purest somali has always been reer waqooyi dialect and thus it was choseen to be what the written language was based on when it was formed.

 

[Periplus]

Some archived BBC opinion piece doesn't change the fact that the language of fanka, heeso and sugaan, and the purest somali has always been reer waqooyi dialect and thus it was choseen to be what the written language was based on when it was formed.

No-one is even arguing about purest Somali.

We are talking about the standardised form of Somali.

 

[fais]

No-one is even arguing about purest Somali.

We are talking about the standardised form of Somali.

That's af waqooyi too.....

 

[Periplus]

That's af waqooyi too.....

Provide at least two sources that agree with your position.

I will wager even the sources you find will associate Mudug with Northern Somali.

But please, by all means back your statement.

 

[reer]

Provide at least two sources that agree with your position.

I will wager even the sources you find will associate Mudug with Northern Somali.

But please, by all means back your statement.

kkk they think their hillbilly redneck dialect is standard.

 

[SOULSEARCHING]

I thought she was going to point out other ethnicities like Nigerian , Spanish etc

 

[Gantaal97]

actually, you can’t. Tokyo, Osaka, or Kyoto don’t have anywhere near as much foreigners proportionately. They’re all mostly tourists. very VERY few foreigners are citizens or at least permanent residents.

Finally, the vast majority of sl citizens live in like 5 cities so whatever demographics are there can basically be translated over with some minor changes.

You actually don't know what or how demographic works lol there's lots of foreigners in those big Japanese cities but that doesn't mean all the people live in urban areas cuz most of the people in JSL are rural living in villages or towns and large part of them are nomads and the foreigners in SL doesn't pass the 100,000 mark as there're few of them but the oromo refugees or migrants numbers are probably between 20-40,000 and they're largely in the cities

 

[Gantaal97]

The waqoyi accent is strong in Buudhoodle, waqoyi galbeed, togdheer but not strong in Lascanood and Ceerigabo/Sanaag. If you hear people there talk, it sounds neutral as well. Things to keep in mind as not all of waqoyi region has the accent you guys think. @Pwyneth Galtrow @Periplus

Waryaa you aren't reer sanaag or ceerigabo so don't speak bs tell me you guys speak differently we all speak the same with slight accent difference from those who live further west in Saylic and Boorama