Madow guy giving UK Somalis some closure

[Rayaale]

Probably the only time an ajnabi has admitted it. I’ve seen a lot of discourse online saying Somalis were anti black and were bullying other blacks but this sheds light on it, we were alienated from the black identity especially from Jamaicans even my fam that grew up here tell me that, one of my uptis even told me don’t be friends with them lmao. This even played into social dynamics/ social stratification to an extent a lot of Somalis would mingle with other Muslims Arabs bengalis Pakistanis Turks more than other madows. Not generalising but this is my own observation.

How come the Jamaicans in Canada are much cooler than the ones in the uk

 

[Kisame]

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Tbh even in the Suburbs the bullying was very bad. These Cadaans, Browns and Asians were very ruthless in the way they were bullying people and since their families had money you couldn't really do shit about it. I've heard of a lot of physical, mental abuse, and SA stories and no justice occurred. You are right by saying never raise your kid in an area where they are a minority. Somalis need to start building middle class enclaves.

I know of people here in North America who've gotten bullied. If you were miskeen, studious, and slightly autistic (or even the first two) they were picking on you. All the ethnic groups were. I dont really know why but they have a set stereotype of how a Madow/African should be like so if you do not fit it they ruthlessly bullied you. The only way they accepted you was if you were a clown in the suburbs I grew up in.

Suburbs have the best schools so people will always flock to them. The best way to raise your children in the suburbs is by getting them to start making friends pretty early in life. Also place them in sports and other extra curriculars just so they can live the same middle class lifestyle like the rest of their peers.

"Somalis need to start building middle class enclaves"

Yea if I had a kid I'd move to a suburban packed with somalis.

 

[Taintedlove]

How come the Jamaicans in Canada are much cooler than the ones in the uk

The jamaicans in britian are way cooler than the ones in canada. Highkey didn't even know jamaican canadians existed lmao

 

[Taintedlove]

I just wanted to know how come this same issue wasn’t a thing with Somalis in North America? I don’t ever recall Somalis getting bullied in schools here in North America. No such stories. And the other thing I want to know, when the f*ck are y’all gonna move on lmfao?

Somalis live in states with low black populations

 

[Rayaale]

The jamaicans in britian are way cooler than the ones in canada. Highkey didn't even know jamaican canadians existed lmao

The ones in the uk seem more aggressive

 

[Taintedlove]

The ones in the uk seem more aggressive

Only gang people. Outside of that, they're a big part of British culture. And they don't have those god awful Toronto accents

 

[kamek]

this conversation is so tiring man

@Taintedlove why the meh? I’m not wrong, you’re a new user on Somali spot , and you clearly aren’t aware of how much threads like this get posted every week, like theres deadass hundreds of threads here about this with the same opinions getting posted every week.

 

[Taintedlove]

@Taintedlove why the meh? I’m not wrong, you’re a new user on Somali spot , and you clearly aren’t aware of how much threads like this get posted every week, like theres deadass hundreds of threads here about this with the same opinions getting posted every week.

I get it but I don't like the dismissive attitude towards these important topics. If you don't want to contribute to these threads just ignore them. Did you experience any of the bullying during this period?

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

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Im heart broken. I cant believe you guy's hate me that much

 

[kamek]

I get it but I don't like the dismissive attitude towards these important topics.

I’m not trying to dismiss importance of talking about this, I have no problem with people talking about the racism somalis have faced, I’m sorry if it came across that way, my issue is with how much we talk about it, for example in that other thread about the UK lady who had fgm done on her, she mentions fgm all time, she got mocked on twitter for it, is the guy who mocked her being dismissive of the seriousness of fgm? No he’s simply pointing out how tiring it is for her to mention it all the time.

To further substantiate my point, when I first joined Somali spot I would routinely engage in these type of discussions, because again I have no issue with this topic, I stopped doing it now because there’s a thread about this every two days!!!! not to mention some of the users here play so hard into the victim narrative and use it to justify their own racism towards madows, like other users have pointed out, it’s all so exhausting.

Did you experience any of the bullying during this period?

I’m 18 so I was a very young during those days, so I didn’t really experience xenophobia, but with my generation or days in secondary school, i would get somali jokes or stereotypes thrown around, , but it was just jokes and they did that to
eyeryone.

 

[kamek]

Im heart broken. I cant believe you guy's hate me that much

Eyipunter, serious question were you bullied by madows?

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

Eyipunter, serious question were you bullied by madows?

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[kamek]

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is it the lack of familiarity that makes you hate them or something? like where does all your racism stem from?

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

is it the lack of familiarity that makes you hate them or something? like where does all your racism stem from?

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[kamek]

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lol you’re entertaining wallahi

 

[Einar68]

Had to have been. Pretty sure other East Africans received the same amount of jokes and you don’t see them victimizing themselves. Pretty sure West Africans who were fresh to the country were getting roasted too.

Wa been. UK Somalis were not moving like this up until recent years. The demographic who supposedly went thru this are all parents by now.

I'm far more ciritical of the somali incel subculture and somalis in general than MANY on this forum, I call out the hate we distribute to other communities more than anyone on here, but wallahi few things grind my gears more than people dismissing what the somali diaspora in England specifically had to endure and why we hold the wider black community in this country more accountable for the hate we received despite the hate coming from many different angles

(none of this is me justifying the current climate of somali trolls acting like chimpanzees to other black people on social media, and I'm fully aware that most of this died down organically around 2016/17, but it's 100% more than just some pirate jokes from when we were little kids on the playground)

 

[Einar68]

Man I might have to make a long comment explaining all my specific issues regarding British somali relations with the with the wider black community without making it seem like I'm justifying the hate somali trolls from the UK throw at them

 

[MaliMohamed]

Somali incel trolls do not justify any of the smoke we get. We are extremely small minority, even if we had a huge incel (which we don't). It does not justify half of the discrimination and hate we get. Stop cooning people.

 

[Leila]

The only reason why he’s complaining of because of Somali troll using the J word online, which I don’t see as a big deal. Tbh Somalis are the some of the least racist people. In real life you will see a random Somali group of 20 boys with 1 random Cadaan or Madow kid who is practically adopted by the Somalis. Madows or cadaans are not like that.

 

[Kisame]

How come the Jamaicans in Canada are much cooler than the ones in the uk

*Jamaican bullies Somali kid
*2 days later