Makhir What Is Their Issue?

I prefer returning to Majeerteenia over anything else, but with a democracy, not a Monarch. I genuinely don't care if non-MJs exit, I see it as a gift.
Everybody acts as if MJ majority cities have proper electrical grids, sewage systems, factories and world class universities. Where do these people live ? 90% development is done by local businessmen and community "iskaa wax uqabso". Warsangeli have invested in Bosaso and neglected Sanaag just like a lot of reer bari have neglected Caluula & Qandala for example. The taxes collected cover the government employees, PSF until the last year was funded by USAfricom & PMPF is funded by the UAE. PL wasn't even get it's proper share of International AID for the last decade and a half. FGS has a had a blockade on PL for the last two years.
If Maakhir wants to be the new kid on the block like SSC aight. If they think twerking for HSM will get them anything then so be it. Nin waliba ha fuulo xiniinyihiisa oo ha is bixiyo.
Plenty of clans in PL that are very loyal with little to no representation will now get a chance.
 
This was always going on

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Libaax-Joore

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Unserious people, they're shouting makhir through the rooftops now because waa ku xumayn reer khaatumo. Dhinac puntland bey rabaan inay wax ka helaan, marka kalena waxay ku leyihiin puntland ma nihin maakhir baynu nahay. Aniga waxaan oran lahaan both dhulbahante and warsangeli waa inn layska ceeriyo, take back the 26 xildhibaans we give them, take away VP/gudoomiyaha barlamaanka Ect,. If these guys are adamant on forming their little states(ceerigaabo to badhan and oog to boocame) let them. Tol baynu nahay yes, if idoor come we come to back them, but when it comes to state building put your money where your mouth is lil bro(dh/warsan)
It’s better if makhiir/khatuumo create federal state together both are harti and also former British colony, puntland have nothing to loose , our aim goal is we want strong federal government not the unuka leh 1 meter bunker in villa amison
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Bari

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It’s better if makhiir/khatuumo create federal state together both are harti and also former British colony, puntland have nothing to loose , our aim goal is we want strong federal government not the unuka leh 1 meter bunker in villa amison
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I would prefer that to be the case however i dont think that will happen. The first thing the garaad should have done after the 25th August victory would have been to create a gogol for waqooyi harti(Warsangeli) and reel them into the idea of SSC-Khaatumo possibly giving them strong power in the xukuumad, VP ect, they didnt do that. Hada Warsangeliga Maakhir bey wadaan, Qof Warsangeli oo ku oranaya SSC baynu nahay waligaa ma aragtay. I dont think harti waqooyi are going to join together,Laakin what they do is none of my business. Im a Majeerteen man, my concern is Bosaaso ilaa Gaalkacyo.
 

Libaax-Joore

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I would prefer that to be the case however i dont think that will happen. The first thing the garaad should have done after the 25th August victory would have been to create a gogol for waqooyi harti(Warsangeli) and reel them into the idea of SSC-Khaatumo possibly giving them strong power in the xukuumad, VP ect, they didnt do that. Hada Warsangeliga Maakhir bey wadaan, Qof Warsangeli oo ku oranaya SSC baynu nahay waligaa ma aragtay. I dont think harti waqooyi are going to join together,Laakin what they do is none of my business. Im a Majeerteen man, my concern is Bosaaso ilaa Gaalkacyo.
Why should they get vice president when thier land size and population are equally 😂 they should create strong federal state officials elected based on merit not Iam laandhere or am king kong
 
Warsan and Dhulbahante can have their own federal states or decide to unify, not my problem, and we will back them in conflicts with SL as they are kin, and the PL vice presidency post should be returned to MJ
 

Libaax-Joore

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''Maakhir Waa Facebook iyo dad dano gaar ah waxaaso kale sax ma ahan in dadka ay jiheeyaan''Guddoomiyaha Golaha Wakiiladda Puntland Abdirisak Ahmed Said
 

DR OSMAN

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The PL parliament speaker has addressed your Facebook uprising @Dhiirane

Stop interfering in these people progress from Facebook social media crap sent to you by SL or Hamar, those ppl don't give a shit about U but seeking a short term post that won't even last 2 years and trading off their people interest. Like come on dude don't U guys ever weigh up the win vs loss of your behaviors lol? 2 year win for a warsangeli in some post in SL or Hamar isn't worth 100 years of warsangeli losses.

 

Libaax-Joore

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VIP
The PL parliament speaker has addressed your Facebook uprising @Dhiirane

Stop interfering in these people progress from Facebook social media crap sent to you by SL or Hamar, those ppl don't give a shit about U but seeking a short term post that won't even last 2 years and trading off their people interest. Like come on dude don't U guys ever weigh up the win vs loss of your behaviors lol? 2 year win for a warsangeli in some post in SL or Hamar isn't worth 100 years of warsangeli losses.

Makhiir is social media project of somaliland run by shiine bahaane
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I prefer everyone to rule their own territory rather than ruling another man's territory. Because Somalis are retarded. They'll be happy so long as one of their guy is in office. But the minute he's out of office they'll become pissed off and become anti government. I've noticed this pattern in all Somalis.
Lool, if every clan gets to rule their own region, then the clan will eventually split into sub clan, then the sub clan will split into a sub sub clan until you finally have every house with its own border :mjlol:
 

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Lool, if every clan gets to rule their own region, then the clan will eventually split into sub clan, then the sub clan will split into a sub sub clan until you finally have every house with its own border :mjlol:

Excuse me any nation who went into a civil war and state collapse can carve any border they want as they will be considered an exception which other countries can't emulate, heck it can be given exceptions as a clan based nation which isn't fuedal peasantry social unit like other republics.

Heck they give Roman Catholic church of 600 ppl a nation state status due to exceptional reasons, you just need an exceptional reason which we have plenty of such as civil war, state collapse, no progress under current unity model, clan based society which makes us distinct to fuedal societies.

@MuseGuud keep fighting and keep preaching us out of this hellish no resolution unionist disaster, don't let the unionist keep brainwashing ppl with syl or siyad system that will never come, their no angel coming down from the sky nor is their any human on earth that can unite us.
 

Hilmaam

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You live in La La land nobody will give any state in Somalia autonomy or balknanization . Go down somaliland path 30 plus years of ilamareyso and have fgs tax your air and shutdown flights when they want
 

Hilmaam

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Makhir and Khatumo will be very tough under HSM. Even if they combine efforts as one state it’s long shot. Look at how Hiraan movement was treated after they beat Al shabab. or new state promised to banadir and potentially annexing LS with it as reward for being only place to pay taxes. HSM ignoring hawiyee states to form 2 new darood states never happening under his watch
 
Makhir and Khatumo will be very tough under HSM. Even if they combine efforts as one state it’s long shot. Look at how Hiraan movement was treated after they beat Al shabab. or new state promised to banadir and potentially annexing LS with it as reward for being only place to pay taxes. HSM ignoring hawiyee states to form 2 new darood states never happening under his watch
Maakhir and khaatumo individuallly will never become states but if they united they would become one. It would be used as a negotiating tactic to get increased status for Banaadir. Also, why would HSM recognize a hiiraan state that weakens Abgaal dominated hirshabelle?
 

Hilmaam

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Maakhir and khaatumo individuallly will never become states but if they united they would become one. It would be used as a negotiating tactic to get increased status for Banaadir. Also, why would HSM recognize a hiiraan state that weakens Abgaal dominated hirshabelle?
Because lower shabelle a mess how can jowhar be capital compared to beledwayne. Hiraan was also orignal state and wasn’t broken up like most places so it has large area. They also bled to clear land of Al shabab . You can say new darood state also weakens abgal and hawiyee grip on fgs. HSM might not recognize any new fms and keep chipping away at ones that exist to make them puppets
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Because lower shabelle a mess how can jowhar be capital compared to beledwayne. Hiraan was also orignal state and wasn’t broken up like most places so it has large area. They also bled to clear land of Al shabab . You can say new darood state also weakens abgal and hawiyee grip on fgs. HSM might not recognize any new fms and keep chipping away at ones that exist to make them puppets
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It’s Middle shabelle that is part of hirshabelle and you’re acting as if I disagree with you. Beledweyne should’ve 1000% been the capital but that’s how the cookie crumbled not much that can be done now. Part of my family is from Hiiraan so it’s not as if I wouldn’t want a Hiiraan state but it just won’t happen becuase the Hawiye powers that be wouldn’t benefit from it. Another Daarood state up north could be an issue for them but it also presents an opportunity. SSC/Maakhir/Whatever they come up with would probably be more FGS-amenable than PL. Also if SSC+Warsangeli lands of PL came together the political pressure would be too much for HSM to ignore, especially since the next daarood president would recognize them anyway. Better to try to use it as a bargaining chip to get something in return.
 

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