Map on the territorial extent of Aksum, 3rd to 4th century AD

[Maintainnnin]

I Made a map showing a rough territorial outline of the Aksumite Empire(Green), the Roman Empire(Red), and Sassanid Persia(Purple) during the 3rd century Ad.

Since king Ousanas of Aksum invaded Kushite capital of Meroe & forced it to pay tribute, I decided to color Kush in light green signifying its vassal status to Aksum.


This map isn't completely accurate because I could only color in the modern regions of today.

 

[Hamzza]

I Made a map showing a rough territorial outline of the Aksumite Empire(Green), Roman Empire(Red), and Sassanid Persia(Purple) during the 3rd century Ad. The Kingdom of Kush in colored in light green due to it's vassal status to Aksum during the 3rd century AD. This map isn't completely accurate because I could only color in the modern regions of today, so this is only a rough outline.



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Axum controlled only small parts of Yemen for a short time and your map extends it all the way to Jordan covering all of Hejaz.

 

[Maintainnnin]

Axum controlled only small parts of Yemen in a short time and your map extends it all the way to Jordan covering all of Hejaz.

The whole red sea coast of Arabia was brought under Aksumite control briefly during the 3rd century, up to the Nabataean port city of Leuke Kome.

 

[Khaem]

I Made a map showing a rough territorial outline of the Aksumite Empire(Green), the Roman Empire(Red), and Sassanid Persia(Purple) during the 3rd century Ad.

Since king Ousanas of Aksum invaded Kushite capital of Meroe & forced it to pay tribute, I decided to color Kush in light green signifying its vassal status to Aksum.


This map isn't completely accurate because I could only color in the modern regions of today.




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My nigga what
This is how axum looked like.
And how would they control parts of Egypt?? That was a firm roman land

 

[Hamzza]

The whole red sea coast of Arabia was brought under Aksumite control briefly during the 3rd century, up to the Nabataean port city of Leuke Kome.


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It's mostly faan of Ethiopian emperors sxb, otherwise Arabian, Persian, and Roman sources would've reported this Axumate domination of western Arabia. Nabataea and its ports were under Roman control at that time.

If we were to put our trust in Monumentum Adulitanum, you have to paint the whole of Northern Somalia green because the King claims in that inscription to have subjugated all the people neighboring his empire from the land of the Aromatics(Somalia) in the East to the land of Ethiopia(Sudan) to the West.

 

[Maintainnnin]

My nigga what
This is how axum looked like.
And how would they control parts of Egypt?? That was a firm roman land
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The Romans began to gradually withdraw from southeastern Egypt in the mid 4th century, following a political decline of the Roman empire. This lack of security/governance of the eastern deserts is what prompted Aksum to establish a presence that far north. King Gadara is recorded to have extracted tribute from the Beja, and even commissioned a road connecting the highlands to Berenike, the former Roman port city in southern Egypt taken over by Aksum after Rome's withdrawal.

 

[Maintainnnin]

It's mostly faan of Ethiopian emperors sxb, otherwise Arabian, Persian, and Roman sources would've reported this Axumate domination of western Arabia. Nabataea and its ports were under Roman control at that time.

If we were to put our trust in Monumentum Adulitanum, you have to paint the whole of Northern Somalia green because the King claims in that inscription to have subjugated all the people neighboring his empire from the land of the Aromatics(Somalia) in the East to the land of Ethiopia(Sudan) to the West.

The faan your describing is when an Ethiopian king claims lands that were conquered some centuries ago by their forefather but are no longer under their control, basically ancient irredentism.


What the Monumentum Adulitanum is recording is a direct military expedition of the Arabian red sea coast, commissioned by the ruler who embarked on it, along with naming the kings & people they extracted tribute from such as "the kings of the Arabitae and the Kinaidokolpitae, two peoples who lived along the coast of the northern Tihāma, and imposed tribute upon them."


There's no evidence that the conquests undertaken by Aksumite kings were embellished, on the contrary there's plenty of supporting evidence that their conquests actually took place.

 

[Khaem]

The Romans began to gradually withdraw from southeastern Egypt in the mid 4th century, following a political decline of the Roman empire. This lack of security/governance of the eastern deserts is what prompted Aksum to establish a presence that far north. King Gadara is recorded to have extracted tribute from the Beja, and even commissioned a road connecting the highlands to Berenike, the former Roman port city in southern Egypt taken over by Aksum after Rome's withdrawal.


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No, Egypt was roman and later byzantine. It adopted orthodox christianity and became Greek influenced like the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean. It was never conquered by any force south since the ancient Kushites in 700bce

 

[Maintainnnin]

No, Egypt was roman and later byzantine. It adopted orthodox christianity and became Greek influenced like the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean. It was never conquered by any force south since the ancient Kushites in 700bce

I'm not talking about breadbasket nile delta Egypt, I'm talking about the southeastern deserts aka Beja country. In the map the whole east coast of Egypt is one region so I had no choice but to select it, in reality the Aksumites only controlled the southeast upto Berenike.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I'm not talking about breadbasket nile delta Egypt, I'm talking about the southeastern deserts aka Beja country. In the map the whole east coast of Egypt is one region so I had no choice but to select it, in reality the Aksumites only controlled the southeast upto Berenike.

There was no Amhara then.

Amhara was a resilt of economic as well as mitary were probably founded by the knight templers who migrated to lalilbella and created an order which saw the declaration of war.

The knight templers did want to retake Jerusalem.

 

[Juke]

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[Arabsiyawi]

It's mostly faan of Ethiopian emperors sxb, otherwise Arabian, Persian, and Roman sources would've reported this Axumate domination of western Arabia. Nabataea and its ports were under Roman control at that time.

If we were to put our trust in Monumentum Adulitanum, you have to paint the whole of Northern Somalia green because the King claims in that inscription to have subjugated all the people neighboring his empire from the land of the Aromatics(Somalia) in the East to the land of Ethiopia(Sudan) to the West.

I think they didn’t occupy the lands but rather had the local elites plea alliegeance to them after karbaashing them few times .
Nonetheless it def is a habesha W.
As for Arabia it’s definitely true they had these people frightened for a long time.

 

[mohammdov]

The farthest campaign they reached is in the middle of the Arabian Peninsula, they didn't reach the north And they didn't go beyond Mecca
And they reached to Socotra, which means that northern Somalia was mostly subordinate to them

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

The farthest campaign they reached is in the middle of the Arabian Peninsula, they didn't reach the north And they didn't go beyond Mecca
And they reached to Socotra, which means that northern Somalia was mostly subordinate to them

You have no evidence to prove that evidence.

 

[mohammdov]

You have no evidence to prove that evidence.

They invaded Socotra in 886
There are many Arab sources that mentioned this, but the ruler of Oman restored it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatima_al-Suqutriyya

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

They invaded Socotra in 886
There are many Arab sources that mentioned this, but the ruler of Oman restored it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatima_al-Suqutriyya

Never ever use wikipedia as a source.

 

[Khaem]

Never ever use wikipedia as a source.

Wikipedia isn't the best but it's still got shit in it.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Wikipedia isn't the best but it's still got shit in it.

What shit ?
Its full of fakenews especially in regards to somali history.

 

[mohammdov]

Never ever use wikipedia as a source.

I don't use it as a source but look at the poem And you can search for it in ancient sources
There is also an Amharic inscription in Socotra, which is also evidence

 

[Cartan Boos]

I don't use it as a source but look at the poem And you can search for it in ancient sources
There is also an Amharic inscription in Socotra, which is also evidence

but that doesn't mean they controlled our land, they struggled in zeila alone and got destroyed many times