Mashallah our sisters know what's right

[Banadiri Warrior]

Somalis have a specific look and you’d be dense to say we don’t. even ajnabis can tell we’re somali

An ajnabi can't tell that every Somali he sees is somali, there's no look that Somalis are limited to

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

I doubt nine of you guys are Somali, cuz every Somali family has a sibling that is off brand timojileec, I have 2 siblings that look timojileec they are as much Somali as I am

No that's only in mixed families, don't say every family, I know many cushitic somali families who all have same features

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

My family is from Northern Somalia, we don’t have any recent Arabian admixture.

There were Arabs in north tho, how can you have Arab features without Arab admixture?

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

How have I slandered Banadiris? I have the upmost respect for your people and get annoyed on fools on here say they’re not Somali. Arguing that they are of mixed backgrounds and that recent testing shows this isn’t slander.

You've slandered your grandmothers people, claiming that they're not arab even tho they claim it.

Well the ones I’m familiar with are familiar with. They were wealthy and profited from those trades. With regards to hair, I haven’t seen ones with hard hair tbh. Just normal loose curly/wavy hair which is common amongst ethnics.

You'll see banadiris with all hair types from 1a to 4c

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It depends if they've even done enough family research before taking the test, if they've did enough research then there won't be any shock . They won't understand their results to an extent without atleast knowing tribes of all their great grandparents. Saying you say 15 DNA tests of banadiris without mentioning their tribal mixture doesn't tell anything. You have to provide more information. There aren't any families of strictly Iranian background as it was inevitable for them to intermarry with arabs throughout the centuries. The samaale gibil madows usually only intermarried with themselves so most of them are 100% cushite

Only back home. That’s due to the Bollywood influence. Bleaching isn’t something you can soley put on the soldiers of Somali women as South Asian women who are lighter bleach on a much larger scale. It’s unfortunately a common issue amongst eastern people and back home your folks bleach as well as whilst most are light skin, the sun is unforgiving and now the fashion back home is to be light light.

It's mostly lamagoodle women that bleach in Somalia so I stand corrected, not just because of Bollywood but also them feeling insecure when they see light skinned women, colourism is very common in lamagoodle households especially the mixed ones.You won't see natural pale skinned or light skinned banadiri women bleaching tho and it's not on same scale

 

[Scipio Africanus]

There were Arabs in north tho, how can you have Arab features without Arab admixture?

Are you slow? I said we don’t have any recent Arabian ancestry, it’s possible there may be admixture from ancient times.

And yes, it’s possible for a Somali to be Arab looking without any significant Arabian ancestry, due to Natufian DNA.

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Are you slow? I said we don’t have any recent Arabian ancestry, it’s possible there may be admixture from ancient times.

And yes, it’s possible for a Somali to be Arab looking without any significant Arabian ancestry, due to Natufian DNA.

No it's not possible , embrace it you have noble Arab admixture, after all you're always begging to be Arab don't know why you can't embrace having Arab admixture

 

[Scipio Africanus]

No it's not possible , embrace it you have noble Arab admixture, after all you're always begging to be Arab don't know why you can't embrace having Arab admixture

Yes it is. Somalis have significant Natufian dna, If you know anything about genetics, then you’ll know it’s enough to find some Somalis who are very Arab looking.

Not the same for your case, since you’re an Indian-bantu mutt. So your people will usually look mulatto.

 

[Angelina]

No it's not possible , embrace it you have noble Arab admixture, after all you're always begging to be Arab don't know why you can't embrace having Arab admixture

Natufians are the forefathers or mothers of the Arabs. Somalis have around 35% to 40% which is why you see some Somalis with lighter complexion. Those genes expressed themselves and some Somalis can look very Nilotic, that’s because those genes are coming thorough for them in their appearance.

 

[techsamatar]

We have something worse in Somalia.

We have people, who think they are Muslim, slaughtering people, for refusing to follow a certain political ideology. For example, what Siad Barre's regime did, and what happened in LaasCaanood. Not to mention, all the bullshit aano qabiil, etc, etc.

These are all people, who think they are good people, righteous even.

The decline in Somalia wasn't caused by Islam but occurred when we embraced non-believing political ideologies. Siad Barre, for instance, adopted socialism and communism, trying to make us liberal and Western. In the end, he was betrayed by the very people he sought to emulate, leading to our humiliation and downfall.

Today, Somalia isn't governed by Islamic principles but by a corrupt democracy and parliament. We're ruled by individuals who are more interested in personal gain, feasting on the resources and aid meant for the people. Nobody takes responsibility because it's become a den of thieves.

Comparing this to countries like Saudi Arabia and other Gulf nations, we once stood ahead of them. However, they never strayed from the path of faith, even when we, in our pride, embraced non-believing ideologies. Now, while they've patiently followed the way of Islam, utilizing the resources Allah provided without deviating, we find ourselves at the bottom of the barrel due to our deviation from faith and our embrace of ideologies that lead us astray.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Natufians are the forefathers or mothers of the Arabs. Somalis have around 35% to 40% which is why you see some Somalis with lighter complexion. Those genes expressed themselves and some Somalis can look very Nilotic, that’s because those genes are coming thorough for them in their appearance.

Chill out, it’s not as low as 35%. It’s usually 40% at the lower end & goes up to 50% at the higher end for the average Somali. Some Somalis are >50% Natufian.

 

[techsamatar]

Natufians are the forefathers or mothers of the Arabs. Somalis have around 35% to 40% which is why you see some Somalis with lighter complexion. Those genes expressed themselves and some Somalis can look very Nilotic, that’s because those genes are coming thorough for them in their appearance.

Usual western Somali looking to Kafir guesswork with errors to talk on ancestry when the deen and 1400 years of preserved narrations talk on it.


HAGAR(AS) IS THE MOTHER OF THE ARABS.

Ibn Hishaam reports in his book Seera Al Nabawiyyah

”The people of the village (in Egypt in which Hagar alayha As Salaam was from) was inhabited by jet black skinned people with kinky hair…

Ibn Luhya’h said that Hagar alayha As Salaam was the MOTHER OF THE ARABS”

قال ابن هشام في كتابه السير النبوية

…قال ابن هشام : حدثنا عبد الله بن وهب عن عبد الله بن لهيعة ، عن عمر مولى غفرة أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ، قال : الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجع
ا

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Usual western Somali looking to Kafir guesswork with errors to talk on ancestry when the deen and 1400 years of preserved narrations talk on it.


HAGAR(AS) IS THE MOTHER OF THE ARABS.

”The people of the village (in Egypt in which Hagar alayha As Salaam was from) was inhabited by jet black skinned people with kinky hair…

Ibn Luhya’h said that Hagar alayha As Salaam was the MOTHER OF THE ARABS”

قال ابن هشام في كتابه السير النبوية

…قال ابن هشام : حدثنا عبد الله بن وهب عن عبد الله بن لهيعة ، عن عمر مولى غفرة أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ، قال : الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجعا

f*ck off, Afrocentric donkey.

 

[Khaem]

Usual western Somali looking to Kafir guesswork with errors to talk on ancestry when the deen and 1400 years of preserved narrations talk on it.


HAGAR(AS) IS THE MOTHER OF THE ARABS.

Ibn Hishaam reports in his book Seera Al Nabawiyyah

”The people of the village (in Egypt in which Hagar alayha As Salaam was from) was inhabited by jet black skinned people with kinky hair…

Ibn Luhya’h said that Hagar alayha As Salaam was the MOTHER OF THE ARABS”

قال ابن هشام في كتابه السير النبوية

…قال ابن هشام : حدثنا عبد الله بن وهب عن عبد الله بن لهيعة ، عن عمر مولى غفرة أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ، قال : الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجع
ا

It's literally genetic fact. Not "kaffir guess work"

 

[techsamatar]

f*ck off, Afrocentric donkey.

I did not speak from my opinion nor my desires but quoted authentic narration of the deen, from the Biography of the prophet by Ibn Hisham - Abdul Malik bin Hisham bin Ayoub Al-Himyari.

If that is how you behave towards the works of scholars and people of Ilm, because of your white worship and inferiority complex then May Allah harden your heart and make you the dog of the Hell fire.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

I did not speak from my opinion nor my desires but quoted authentic narration of the deen, from the Biography of the prophet by Ibn Hisham - Abdul Malik bin Hisham bin Ayoub Al-Himyari.

If that is how you behave towards the works of scholars and people of Ilm, because of your white worship and inferiority complex then May Allah harden your heart and make you the dog of the Hell fire.

Fucking Donkey

 

[techsamatar]

Fucking Donkey

I keep forgetting I am in western thread and Munafiqs will be prevalent.

Will you also slander Musa(AS) because he was not described as your white masters and not enough for your inferiority complex?

May Allah Tighten your grave.

You lot love to talk on Arabs and semites but when it comes to the deen with its preserved narrations and words of the prophet talking on it you do not like it since you filthy ignorant Deen-less modern Somalis are enslaved with thinking your white standard and love to be passed as Persian/roman looking. When the average somali is Adam/Asmar complexed and kinky haired, and it is always the most Madow ones with kinky hair who have this mindset.

Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal related in his musnad (3365) the following description that the Messenger ﷺ gave of Musa’s color:

وَرَأَيْتُ مُوسَى أَسْحَمَ آدَمَ

“Musa was jet-black skinned.”

Muslim relates in his Sahih (239 and 243) that Ibn Abbas said that the Messenger ﷺ described Musa’s appearance as follows:

َأَمَّا مُوسَى فَرَجُلٌ آدَمُ جَعْدٌ

As for Musa, he was black-skinned and kinky-haired. (hadith 243)



قَالَ ذَكَرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ أُسْرِيَ بِهِ فَقَالَ مُوسَى آدَمُ طُوَالٌ كَأَنَّهُ مِنْ رِجَالِ شَنُوءَةَ

He (Ibn Abbas) said that the prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the time he was ascended to the Heavens and he said that Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and tall as if he was from the tribe of Shanua. (hadith 239)

 

[techsamatar]

It's literally genetic fact. Not "kaffir guess work"

wow we have a genius here.

I am expected to embrace the conjectures of non-believers and disregard the invaluable wisdom contained in the 1400-year-old narrations provided by esteemed Arab historians, scholars, and the teachings of our faith, including those of the Prophet.

Am supposed to adopt this as my faith and belief, setting aside the accounts described and written by the individuals themselves.

Very believable:

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Natufians are the forefathers or mothers of the Arabs. Somalis have around 35% to 40% which is why you see some Somalis with lighter complexion. Those genes expressed themselves and some Somalis can look very Nilotic, that’s because those genes are coming thorough for them in their appearance.

There's hardly been enough samples to come to conclusions like that, the lighter ones are mixed with Arabs or Persians

 

[Scipio Africanus]

There's hardly been enough samples to come to conclusions like that, the lighter ones are mixed with Arabs or Persians

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Your people have Iranian & Indian DNA, we don’t at all.

And yes 40-50% Natufian DNA is enough for some Somalis to resemble their Natufian ancestors.

 

[Khaem]

There's hardly been enough samples to come to conclusions like that, the lighter ones are mixed with Arabs or Persians

I've met several very light somalis with no non-cushitic mixture. Why is it a debate on the most basic things about Somali with you? Do you even live around Somalis?