MBS anti-Islam liberalization project continues in Saudi

[AMusee]

when you're riling up the people like that, it's already outside of the right approach.

Notice he comes into a thread about the Saudi Government inviting a p-star to twerk and sing blasphemy to rant about "riling people up". Then pretends he is not here to defend the haram.

Do you think youre making any sense?

 

[AMusee]

They promote ideas they themselves don’t adhere to. They supported the toppling of Morsi and when gulf countries destabilise other nations they support. But when it comes to Saudi they say don’t utter a word about them listen and obey

I dont know who they think theyre convincing, it is so obvious.

 

[AMusee]

What’s your issue with ikhwanis? Do you deem their rule inferior to the ones in the gulf?

Madkhalis issue with "ikhwanis", they call any Muslim who calls for Shariah ikhwani, is because they promote Islam and its laws which goes against their western/zionist propped up rulers.

It is as simple as that.

 

[AMusee]

How to destroy the Salafi dawah:

1. Start by imprisoning their most influential and principled scholars/duat.

2. If anyone objects, say that those scholars/duat were supporting terrorism and whoever defends them is also a terrorist who will be jailed.

3. Spread the idea that criticizing the government for jailing these scholars is khuruj, deviance, and "not the way of the salaf."

4. Gradually start arresting other scholars/duat until the only ones left are clear government stooges that the people will view as sellouts and munafiqin.

Anyone who doesnt understand that this Madkhalism is literally a US-Zionist sponsored government effort to destroy one of the most effective and successful conservative Islamic movements of modern times is either an idiot or an agent.


https://twitter.com/Haqiqatjou/status/1696878790712975767

 

[Bari🐍]

In the Muslim world you begin to realize poverty is a blessing in some instances. The rich Muslim nations lose the deen as their wealth increases, whereas the poorer ones have nothing but to rely on Allah. The latter will be the true winners in the end.

 

[cooli3o]

In the Muslim world you begin to realize poverty is a blessing in some instances. The rich Muslim nations lose the deen as their wealth increases, whereas the poorer ones have nothing but to rely on Allah. The latter will be the true winners in the end.

im gonna be honest poverty has destroyed peoples religion, the developing countries are rife with haram oppression degeneracy backwards culture

 

[Unicorn]

Eww her diaper booty

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

disgusting ...

atp this dunya is finished

No its not finished saudi hypocricy is finished.

 

[cooli3o]

No its not finished saudi hypocricy is finished.

its great bc atleast they are being public about their degeneracy, usually these arab countries have nightclubs and degeneracy in secret,now its in public for all of us to see

 

[Bari🐍]

im gonna be honest poverty has destroyed peoples religion, the developing countries are rife with haram oppression degeneracy backwards culture

The poorer nations are more religious than the richer ones. When one has very little, they turn to Allah for relief. When one has their needs met, they may lack in worship.

 

[cooli3o]

The poorer nations are more religious than the richer ones. When one has very little, they turn to Allah for relief. When one has their needs met, they may lack in worship.

i don't know about that when i go to any poor muslim country they are usually mostly all irreligious, i think you are talking about the bottom of the bottom poor people who have nothing .
in general ppl in developing countries are irrelgious, its filled with corruption

 

[xiin-finiin.]

@GaradShabeel @xiin-finiin

show a post from me where I say something haraam that is happening in Saudi is halal. have I ever posted that Halloween is halal? have I ever said that music is halal?

no one can show me saying anything like that.

An example is when Saudi killed a guy. Instead of talking about it, or at least ignoring it, one of the first things you did was point fingers and say "oh look, somalia is doing it too". like the other people said, it's not that you say haram things are halal it's just that you seem awfully reluctant to say anything about them. you are trigger happy with calling other people deviants and stuff, but when it comes to Saudi, it's almost like you are making excuses for them.

 

[AMusee]

its great bc atleast they are being public about their degeneracy, usually these arab countries have nightclubs and degeneracy in secret,now its in public for all of us to see

im gonna be honest poverty has destroyed peoples religion, the developing countries are rife with haram oppression degeneracy backwards culture

i don't know about that when i go to any poor muslim country they are usually mostly all irreligious, i think you are talking about the bottom of the bottom poor people who have nothing .
in general ppl in developing countries are irrelgious, its filled with corruption

Baseless nonsense. It is statistically known that poorer people, especially Muslim peoples are the most religious. Your personal anecdotal claims go against the facts.

 

[AMusee]

In the Muslim world you begin to realize poverty is a blessing in some instances. The rich Muslim nations lose the deen as their wealth increases, whereas the poorer ones have nothing but to rely on Allah. The latter will be the true winners in the end.

Is the Muslim World’s “Backwardness” Its Strength? Non-Muslim Biohistorian on Islam​

Jim Penman is a famed British-born Australian entrepreneur who also happens to be a PhD in history, his specialization being the emerging field of “biohistory.”

Biohistory is to basically look at macro-history through not politics or economics, as it’s often done in the liberal and the Marxist traditions respectively, but through biology, or in other words, the very being of the peoples themselves.

More specifically, he analyzes history through “epigenetics,” that rising field within biology which says that environmental and behavioral factors have an influence on how our body reads a DNA sequence (even if the genome itself remains unchanged).

In his main book, Biohistory: Decline and Fall of the West, released in 2015, Penman himself gives a telling example: An individual who has been neglected in childhood will grow to become an anxious and depressed adult, as the “chained” methyl groups would repress the expression of certain genes, while the same individual, if he had caring parents, would be a confident and relaxed individual as methyl groups would be “detached,” thus allowing the free expression of the genes involved in such emotions.

As he says, genes are switched on or off as a response to external circumstances.

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So, epigenetics looks at how brain activity and behavior have been affected by change in environmental conditions. Penman generalizes all of this to talk of civilizations as a whole.

It’s all complex, as the book is full of scientific terminology and research despite being for the general public. And of course it has its critics, who say that he puts too much emphasis on caloric restriction, that the framework is too deterministic, mainly when it comes to genes, and so on.

But even if he touches upon many points, for instance the decline of the West as the title suggests, here we’ll just look at his opinions about Islam.

While reading, keep in mind that what he calls the “C factor” is “civilization,” which includes rationality, self-restraint, and so on, and the “V factor” for “vigor,” which includes patriarchy, war-like culture, etc.

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To give a practical example, in terms of biology and epigenetics, a society with a too strong C factor would see a drop in general testosterone levels, the modern West having seen a phenomenal decrease there, while a society with a too strong V factor would thus naturally see the opposite.

As per Penman, general testosterone levels themselves are indicators of a society’s virility, self-confidence, hope in the future, place of religion, morals values, and so on. Penman takes an openly conservative position on all these matters. He also happens to be an Evangelical Christian.

Let’s now go into what he says about Islam.

All the following excerpts are taken from pp. 225-230 of Biohistory: Decline and Fall of the West.

Gender Segregation​

V-promoters continued to strengthen, as indicated by the growing subjection of women. Repression of women limits their sexual activity, and also makes them chronically anxious, both of which support V. This is first evident in Babylonian times around 2000 BC, when women were expected to cover their bodies and faces and be chaperoned in public. The Assyrians took this further by insisting they stay home most of the time, concealed behind curtains, a custom also adopted by the Persians.
The subjugation of women is not only inhumane but expensive. It takes a lot of effort to seclude women and reduces their contribution to agriculture, industry and the economy in general. But the military success of the Assyrians and Persians was ample reward for the cost involved in segregating their women. In the long term, biological and cultural success is based not on wealth or even happiness but on the number of surviving children and the status they hold. Military prowess, in both offense and defense, is an effective way to achieve such success.
All these trends culminated in the culture associated with Islam, which arose in the harshest and most inhospitable environment of all—the deserts of Arabia.

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Fasting​

According to Islamic tradition Muhammad accepted the Jewish scriptures, recognized Jesus as a prophet, and established Ramadan as a pillar of the new Muslim faith. Non-Muslims would suggest he was influenced by the Lenten fast of Christianity, but gave it a far more rigorous form by forbidding food and drink during daylight hours. Unlike shorter-term and more frequent fasting which would tend to support C, Ramadan has the physiological impact of an occasional famine and is thus a uniquely powerful V-promoter.

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[AMusee]

Islam… The Ultimate Testosterone-Boosting Religion?​

Psychologically, the Islamic stress on absolute submission to Allah suits a temperament which has high child V and a great deal of stress as a result of severe punishments in childhood. It is thus receptive to powerful authority. The word “Islam” means “submission”, though of course in the sense of submission to God. Taking on such an attitude probably also increases V, given the effect feedback cycle, whereby any behavior resulting from C or V tends to increase C or V. Combined with exceptionally high V from a harsh desert environment, this helped make Islam the ultimate high-V religion. V-promoters are key elements of Christianity and Judaism, but to a lesser extent.
There is far more to the Islamic way of life than fasting and segregating women, of course. Praying five times a day acts to increase C, as does avoiding alcohol. The custom of eating with the right hand, leaving the left for ablutions, is an effective hygiene measure in a culture without modern sanitation. And this is only one of many health measures associated with Islam, such as ritual washing. Then there is the Qur’an itself and the sonorous power of the Arabic language, with an attractive system of ethics including a focus on alms-giving and the equality of believers. Putting all this together created a powerful religious technology which made its followers more aggressive, confident, united and with a higher birth rate than any competing civilization.

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Why Did the World’s Oldest Civilizations Embrace Islam?​

Arabs, Persians, Afghans and the other Muslim ethnic groups of the Middle East and Central Asia are epigenetically primed by centuries of cultural evolution for personal loyalties rather than impersonal institutions. High child V and stress makes them amenable to harsh authority and inclines them to rebel against rulers they perceive as weak. It also makes them rigidly conservative, so that education of women, seen by Westerners as an unalloyed good, is seen by many fundamentalist Muslims (quite correctly) as a threat to their culture and way of life.
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People in the West see the traditional culture of the Muslim Middle East as primitive and “backward,” and there are constant calls for modernization. In fact, as had been seen, Islamic culture is anything but backward. Civilization first arose in Egypt, Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley in what is now Pakistan. It is no coincidence that these lands, with the longest experience of civilization, are now strongly and fervently Muslim. Long experience of civilization has bred a high-S genotype and culture

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Islam: The Survival of the Fittest​

Such countries tend to be poor (if we leave out the anomalous effects of oil wealth), since their peoples lack the temperament for industrialization. But wealth at that level is of no benefit in the long-term struggle for survival and success. To paraphrase Christian scripture, what does it benefit a civilization if it gains wealth but loses its strength and vigor? The advantages of Islam can be clearly seen in countries with mixed populations. Lebanon once had a Christian majority but is now 54% Muslim. In Communist Yugoslavia the provinces with Muslim populations grew much faster and received tax revenue from the wealthier Christian states. The population of Kosovo, the spiritual homeland of Christian Serbia, grew from 733,000 in 1948 to over two million in 1994, with the Muslim component surging from 68% to 90%, and lately going even higher.
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This means that on current trends Europe will become an Islamic continent in a century or so. The 1,400-year struggle between Islam and the West is coming to end.

So, as per the opinion of this conservative “biohistorian,” Islam is indeed the “based” religion.

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https://muslimskeptic.com/2022/03/2...ts-strength-non-muslim-biohistorian-on-islam/

 

[cooli3o]

Baseless nonsense. It is statistically known that poorer people, especially Muslim peoples are the most religious. Your personal anecdotal claims go against the facts.

i think it depends on the region. statistically is done by atheists, their measure of religiosity is a couple factors, you could be chewing khat and they would still consider you religious if you pray 5 times a day
for alot of people, poverty ruins their religiosity, and money makes them better Muslims

 

[AMusee]

i think it depends on the region. statistically is done by atheists, their measure of religiosity is a couple factors, you could be chewing khat and they would still consider you religious if you pray 5 times a day
for alot of people, poverty ruins their religiosity, and money makes them better Muslims

Again, those are baseless claims from you alone that go against all the well established facts. You’re just making things up.

 

[cooli3o]

Again, those are baseless claims from you alone that go against all the well established facts. You’re just making things up.

factually poorer areas have more corruption, more murder, more drug use, more trauma, more zinaa, etc etc

 

[Mr steal your naag 2]

Here is the latest degeneracy.




A only fans star was paid millions by the Saudi governmet to come and twerk on stage. The police only removed her after he pants ripped on stage and not because of the lyrics and twerking. @Omar del Sur come rant and defend this as usual.

He is smart he doesnt want his country to turn in to another iran or afganistan where you have religious fanatics ruling the countries after they overtrown their gouverment. so he is Gaalonising his people slowly so they be like swedish people

 

[GaradShabeel]

He is smart he doesnt want his country to turn in to another iran or afganistan where you have religious fanatics ruling the countries after they overtrown their gouverment. so he is Gaalonising his people slowly so they be like swedish people

As if it wasn't through KSA's influence that Afghanistan turned into a 'religious fanatic' ruled country from the former 'secular' ruled country. Nice try tho

Do you know how Afghans become religious in the first place? It happened during the time when the US were supporting the mujahideens against the 'communists', while KSA's were simultaneously funding madrassa that turned them more religious, especially in Pakistan where many of them ended up fleeing to and thus spreading back to Afghanistan.

Granted, many of the rural Afghans were already religious, albeit heavily (Pashtun) culturally influenced, and by the end of the Afghan/Soviet war and civil war leading up to the first Taliban rule, you had the 'religious fanatics' that you're referring to. It's safe to say that KSA is part of the reason why you have the Talibans today.