Middle Juba

[GemState]

I haven't heard of any Somali administration seriously talk about consolidating this region, which is insane considering all of AlShabab's leaders live there.

Are there any plans at all at a offensive here, and what are the roadblocks?

 

[Mckenzie]

It's the most innaccessible region in Somalia. And the reason is because Baraawe and Kismaayo have an unstable perimeter. Somalia is simply too big and spacious to consolidate, especially without air support.

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

It's because they are unserious about fighting AS. They would rather go to Galmudug and Hiiraan and fight Shabaab there when in reality that isnt even their stronghold and is the least Shabaab populated regions in Somalia. You have to kill a snake from his head. And the head of Shabaab is middle Jubba.

Then again it could also be the president of Jubbaland which is making it difficult for the Fgs to fight in that region as he is not cooperating with the fgs. Probably because him having power relies on that region being Shabaab controlled.

 

[Burqad]

It's the most innaccessible region in Somalia. And the reason is because Baraawe and Kismaayo have an unstable perimeter. Somalia is simply too big and spacious to consolidate, especially without air support.

Somalia would need 200k soldiers to pacify the south and if we had 200k solilders we would conquer Africa.

 

[Removed]

I haven't heard of any Somali administration seriously talk about consolidating this region, which is insane considering all of AlShabab's leaders live there.

Are there any plans at all at a offensive here, and what are the roadblocks?

In short- Roadblocks are geography and local support.

The Biyomaal and Madowweyn hold down Jilib/Jamaame(mostly) and theres no reason for them to be pro-SNA or pro-JL.

The Jidwaaq and Cawlyahan subclans who settle from Buaale district and Saakow district are entirely on the side of AS. Madoobe wont diminish his loyal base to try and hold those shanty towns when he holds the actual capital which fully backs him already. You can find speeches of them online, they’re fully bought in.

Its geography is also a wet mess with few bridges serving as chokepoints. Many landmines slowing vehicle dependent forces. Foxholes/dugouts everywhere sabotaging supply lines and flanking any permanent checkpoints. Ample shrubbery where they camp under preventing air support and recon even on the frontlines. An entire river and “plentiful” rainfall/farms providing rations etc.

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

In short- Roadblocks are geography and local support.

The Biyomaal and Madowweyn hold down Jilib/Jamaame(mostly) and theres no reason for them to be pro-SNA or pro-JL.

The Jidwaaq and Cawlyahan subclans who settle from Buaale district and Saakow district are entirely on the side of AS. Madoobe wont diminish his loyal base to try and hold those shanty towns when he holds the actual capital which fully backs him already. You can find speeches of them online, they’re fully bought in.

Its geography is also a wet mess with few bridges serving as chokepoints. Many landmines slowing vehicle dependent forces. Foxholes/dugouts everywhere sabotaging supply lines and flanking any permanent checkpoints. Ample shrubbery where they camp under preventing air support and recon even on the frontlines. An entire river and “plentiful” rainfall/farms providing rations etc.

Jungle monkeys

 

[ggoat]

There is no such thing as Middle Juba it is part of Lower Juba. It was created for political purposes, which is why the region remains a hellhole

 

[Avalanche]

There is no such thing as Middle Juba it is part of Lower Juba. It was created for political purposes, which is why the region remains a hellhole

Middle Juba is its own region. It's one of the 18 regions of Somalia.

 

[Nur_]

It's the most innaccessible region in Somalia. And the reason is because Baraawe and Kismaayo have an unstable perimeter. Somalia is simply too big and spacious to consolidate, especially without air support.

What do you mean by unstable perimeter?