Ministry of commerce issues warning to remittance companies

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

They must remove references to somaliland effective September 1st

 

[Jaha]

Nice! I posted about this yesterday.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

They must remove references to somaliland effective September 1st

Aside from Amal and Taaj(Hormuud) the rest are mostly Somaliland based Worldremit makes most of their money in Somaliland so I see no reason why they should comply , Dahabshiil would lose more imo since they do business in Somalia

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Nice! I posted about this yesterday.

They reading this forum for sure

 

[jusbrowsin]

if they buckle its gonna be jokes

 

[Three Moons]

Aside from Amal and Taaj(Hormuud) the rest are mostly Somaliland based Worldremit makes most of their money in Somaliland so I see no reason why they should comply , Dahabshiil would lose more imo since they do business in Somalia

Anything that crosses international borders in terms of transactions comes under the purview of the FGS as the sole recognised sovereign. If the companies don’t comply, and the FGS takes away their right to operate, no country in the world where these companies have a xawaalad will allow them to sent money to any part of Somalia. In such a scenario a person in Minnesota or London would no longer be able to send money to a person in Hargeisa, Garowe or Mogadishu if the companies they want to use have been blacklisted. That’s billions of dollars in remittances.

It’s obvious that the FGS is being advised by an international ally to remove any ambiguity with regards to where its borders start or end.

 

[Three Moons]

if they buckle its gonna be jokes

FlyDubai and Ethiopian Airlines complied in the span of a day, the Somali companies above are in a much more vulnerable position than those international companies because the FGS can revoke their license to operate around the world and with Somalia itself.

 

[Haragwaafi]

They must remove references to somaliland effective September 1st

Won't happen ya walanweyns kkk

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

When it comes to airspace they can complain to ICAO that international treaty law is being violated but who are they going to complain to against Dahabshiil? Somalia's sovereignty is maintained by international bodies, not the FGS directly.

FGS is just spraying against everything and everyone. Hoping to confuse the masses they have actual power.

 

[Jaha]

They reading this forum for sure

FGS:

My reaction:

Jokes aside, it’s true that some government officials do lurk here from time to time. But I think this was more of a coincidence than anything else.

 

[Jaha]

If the companies don’t comply, and the FGS takes away their right to operate, no country in the world where these companies have a xawaalad will allow them to sent money to any part of Somalia.

This is the point many of these SL fanatics are missing. The payments industry in Somalia is now regulated, albeit loosely, but FGS as the only officially recognised authority, certainly has enough political leverage to make companies operating in Somalia comply with minimal effort.

 

[AbdiFreedom]

Probably not enforceable because they spelled Dahabshiil incorrectly with just one "i". Not a serious government. They always make typos.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

This is the point many of these SL fanatics are missing. The payments industry in Somalia is now regulated, albeit loosely, but FGS as the only officially recognised authority, certainly has enough political leverage to make companies operating in Somalia comply with minimal effort.

You guys are looking air travel which is highly regulated and can be managed from a single location, when we've all been watching Somalia's waters get violated day in day out, it's land is not under it's control. Where can FGS actually stop these companies from operating? A few blocks in Mogadishu.

Air travel is a one off case that is highly regulated and subject to international treaties and intergovernmental agreements and it can be managed from a single location, hell it can be managed from a different country as it was before the FGS took charge of it.

You guys are building dreams off of nothing.

 

[Pastoralist]

Jeegan being dragged back into the fold. Any separatist entity in the nation and abroad will face the same treatment.

 

[Three Moons]

People clearly haven’t been paying attention to this earlier thread; Somalia’s cabinet makes a list of national security threats. Any company that doesn’t comply with the FGS’s demand could be designated financial supporters of point II, their transactions would then, from an international perspective, fall under the anti-money laundering and terrorism finance regulations. No country in the world would be willing to lose their financial credibility and status by hosting black listed companies against the wishes of a different country that revoked their license. You would need a superpower to bypass this international reality for you like in the case of China and Iran, or the US and Taiwan, or Russia and Abkhazia.

No superpower is even remotely interested in playing that divisive role in Somalia.

 

[Jaha]

You guys are looking air travel which is highly regulated and can be managed from a single location, when we've all been watching Somalia's waters get violated day in day out, it's land is not under it's control. Where can FGS actually stop these companies from operating? A few blocks in Mogadishu.

Air travel is a one off case that is highly regulated and subject to international treaties and intergovernmental agreements and it can be managed from a single location, hell it can be managed from a different country as it was before the FGS took charge of it.

You guys are building dreams off of nothing.

The reality is that Somalia is in the process of rebuilding from the ground up, and the absence of a fully functional navy is indeed a limitation. However, it would be a mistake to assume that you have free reign over the seas in the region.

The FGS has shown respect and consideration by permitting Somaliland to make deals and agreements with companies like DP World in Berbera for their own benefit. Arrangements like this wouldn’t have been possible without the blessings of FGS.

The truth is that we could make things very difficult for you if we had the same one-sided hate you have for us. The FGS's response is merely a gentle reminder that the recent treasonous actions taken by the SL regime will not lead you down the path you think it does.

We obviously don’t want to hinder progress in the region, nor do we want to see anyone starve. It’s unfortunate if you can't break free from the years of hateful rhetoric and vicious propaganda that you’ve been exposed to.

When it comes to securing the waters, the task has been outsourced for now, which isn’t ideal, but it’s certainly better than having no oversight at all. Call it what you want, the situation is far from perfect, but it’s a step towards reasserting control over Somalia’s territorial waters.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

The reality is that Somalia is in the process of rebuilding from the ground up, and the absence of a fully functional navy is indeed a limitation. However, it would be a mistake to assume that you have free reign over the seas in the region.

The FGS has shown respect and consideration by permitting Somaliland to make deals and agreements with companies like DP World in Berbera for their own benefit. Arrangements like this wouldn’t have been possible without the blessings of FGS.

The truth is that we could make things very difficult for you if we had the same one-sided hate you have for us. The FGS's response is merely a gentle reminder that the recent treasonous actions taken by the SL regime will not lead you down the path you think it does.

We obviously don’t want to hinder progress in the region, nor do we want to see anyone starve. It’s unfortunate if you can't break free from the years of hateful rhetoric and vicious propaganda that you’ve been exposed to.

When it comes to securing the waters, the task has been outsourced for now, which isn’t ideal, but it’s certainly better than having no oversight at all. Call it what you want, the situation is far from perfect, but it’s a step towards reasserting control over Somalia’s territorial waters.

Please drop the act.

We have it all on record how the FGS tried to block Berbera but there's no law in that area it seems otherwise they would have used it.

FGS has avoided some of the more desperate measures it now engages in because they appear weak but recent diplomatic failures have delegitimzed the FGS so they had to do something.

Anyway there's a whole 12 years of broken agreements (Air traffic control is one area) and between Somaliland and the FGS and the time has come to make a move to an independent state. There's no hatred involved simply an understanding that there's no agreement that will be upheld. Other regions understand the same and are pursuing similar approaches.

Somalia is being abandoned due to its' own treacherous ways which mostly belong to a few clans who dominate the politics in Mogadishu and who will eat themselves when there's no one else to exploit and dominate.

I'm glad Muse Bixi done to the Somalians what the would have eventually done to Somaliland. His actions have exposed Somaliland's enemies and set the stage for the real battle for independence. Somaliland is in a strong position to win outright independence.

 

[AbdiFreedom]

Probably not enforceable because they spelled Dahabshiil incorrectly with just one "i". Not a serious government. They always make typos.

This is really unbelievable. I found another one. The Government of Somalia also misspelled Juba Express; they added the letter b twice.

 

[Sup]

Anything that crosses international borders in terms of transactions comes under the purview of the FGS as the sole recognised sovereign. If the companies don’t comply, and the FGS takes away their right to operate, no country in the world where these companies have a xawaalad will allow them to sent money to any part of Somalia. In such a scenario a person in Minnesota or London would no longer be able to send money to a person in Hargeisa, Garowe or Mogadishu if the companies they want to use have been blacklisted. That’s billions of dollars in remittances.

It’s obvious that the FGS is being advised by an international ally to remove any ambiguity with regards to where its borders start or end.

I’ve been saying this for ages, at the end of the day. Money talks and they will comply or lose their license to operate. Great analysis sxb.

 

[Abdisamad]

This is really unbelievable. I found another one. The Government of Somalia also misspelled Juba Express; they added the letter b twice.

They should hire you as a spell checker, so every documents will go through you before they publish it, nice remote office job