Mogadishu Take Over of Airspace Management Near Completion

[Chief_karama]

Harun Maruf

✔@HarunMaruf

Somalia to open new flight info center today. Self-funded by air navigation service charges collected on behalf of Somalia by the UN, centre will take over managing airspace and provision of air navigation services within wks from ICAO which controlled Somalia airspace since 1992


I bet the warlords in the 90s who were fighting for the control of the ghost airports in Mogadishu didn't even know that ICAO was eating good in the sky while they were fighting over pennies in the land. Naclad

 

[Coulombs law]

This is good and its an added bonus it came at the expense of the kenyan government since they will not be receiving any more cash out of an airspace that doesn't belong to them.

But is anyone not concerned with how the government will be handling this sudden influx of cash?

1.1 million a month with a potential of 50 million per year is absolutely no joke.

Hopefully the farmaajo administration uses it for social programs for the citizens and developing damaged or unused areas.

I'm tired of seeing new Parliament Buildings being built every couple of months.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

That will come in time. Recovery happens slowly when an entire society dissolves into chaotic clan ruled towns and regions. It was recovery by regions first, now it is time for institutions to recover as well that represent Somalis in the collective.

I do understand those who want their clan to reign supreme will have issues with the Somali cause, but that Somali cause is more supreme and higher than what a clan wants. No matter how long it takes, the future of every country belongs to those who espouse higher visions than narrow clan interests.

No educated Somali who traveled the world, and who lived in systems where fairness, equality, merits and vision rule the day will settle for less. And I am not here to argue with people who represent their clan agenda to the exclusion of the Somali interests. I have neither respect for them nor care what they think should happen to Somalia since their views are narrow and ignorant. I don't give a f*ck about their thoughts. Just stating the obvious and where things are headed. Slowly, all corrupt old men will die and burn in hell, the younger generation will take over and they must be civilized enough to oversee a country that is united and for Somalis.

Don't bother me with clan emotions for I don't give a f*ck about a clan agenda. I would murder an entire clan to save Somalia.

Sit your ass down Jean Claude Van Damme, I don't care who you would murder, clan rules Somalia and will continue to rule it for a long time. I don't want my chartered plane to hit another cause some incompetent monkey was given an air traffic controller's job by his cousin that's the reality of Somalia today and the reason it is unfit to manage this project. They can't manage the ground, they certainly shouldn't manage the skies but hey if you want your hubris to kill more people then go well ahead

 

[XamarCade]

Sit your ass down Jean Claude Van Damme, I don't care who you would murder, clan rules Somalia and will continue to rule it for a long time. I don't want my chartered plane to hit another cause some incompetent monkey was given an air traffic controller's job by his cousin that's the reality of Somalia today and the reason it is unfit to manage this project. They can't manage the ground, they certainly shouldn't manage the skies but hey if you want your hubris to kill more people then go well ahead

Air traffic controller: Flight 255 to Bosaso do u copy

255: Yes

Air traffic controller: I want u to land at runway 6 from south at 1500 copy?

255: copy, thanks.

Air traffic controller: Flight 563 to Bosaso do u copy?

563: copy

Air traffic controller: I want you to land at runway 6 from north at 1500, do u copy .

563: copy

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Sit your ass down Jean Claude Van Damme, I don't care who you would murder, clan rules Somalia and will continue to rule it for a long time. I don't want my chartered plane to hit another cause some incompetent monkey was given an air traffic controller's job by his cousin that's the reality of Somalia today and the reason it is unfit to manage this project. They can't manage the ground, they certainly shouldn't manage the skies but hey if you want your hubris to kill more people then go well ahead

Civil Aviation Servants were being trained for the take over. This is one job your cousin farah doqon can not just walk in and do it. You have to be trained first to communicate with pilots around the world in your airspace and land them safely if they are inbound among other things. If that person happens to be professional but of a different clan, so be it. I don't care.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Civil Aviation Servants were being trained for the take over. This is one job your cousin farah doqon can not just walk in and do it. You have to be trained first to communicate with pilots around the world in your airspace and land them safely if they are inbound among other things. If that person happens to be professional but of a different clan, so be it. I don't care.

Get a grip man, it's the most corrupt nation on earth I don't give a f*ck if they are trained by the best in the world, they will be managed by Mogadishu and the most corrupt government in modern history don't insult our intelligence with your "nationalism", use common sense and get back to us in reality 2017 going into 2018! It's really amazing you don't see things from my view which is right now non-qabilist, rational, a very rare moment in time you should be sharing with me in a brotherly fashion

 

[The Cushitic One]

what do you mean? can you point it out

amuus

 

[Abdalla]

It looks like I have to travel by car to Somalia from now on. Aint no way in hell will through Somali sky while Somali ministers look like this

 

[BirtaanJabin]

Air traffic controller: Flight 255 to Bosaso do u copy

255: Yes

Air traffic controller: I want u to land at runway 6 from south at 1500 copy?

255: copy, thanks.

Air traffic controller: Flight 563 to Bosaso do u copy?

563: copy

Air traffic controller: I want you to land at runway 6 from north at 1500, do u copy .

563: copy

I was like haha till I clocked they’re gonna crash

 

[Ahlubayt]

Some people only understand muscle.
We will enforce it by use of force inshallah .

Muscle you enforce aaaa-

Waanu ognahay qaldaanimadu iney tahay- genetic.

Marqaanka ayaa kugu go'ay midkale soo qabso- oo sheekada inoo wad.

Surely somaliland will deploy its own made in marqaaanland fighter jet.

 

[DRACO]

Muscle you enforce aaaa-

Waanu ognahay qaldaanimadu iney tahay- genetic.

Marqaanka ayaa kugu go'ay midkale soo qabso- oo sheekada inoo wad.

Surely somaliland will deploy its own made in marqaaanland fighter jet.

You gotta start somewhere sxb.
in a couple of years we could be exporting state of the art fighter jets globally !

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Get a grip man, it's the most corrupt nation on earth I don't give a f*ck if they are trained by the best in the world, they will be managed by Mogadishu and the most corrupt government in modern history don't insult our intelligence with your "nationalism", use common sense and get back to us in reality 2017 going into 2018! It's really amazing you don't see things from my view which is right now non-qabilist, rational, a very rare moment in time you should be sharing with me in a brotherly fashion

I am not celebrating for somalia to regain what is its right as a country. Don't be offended by what the world considers be yours too as a Somali. Remember, no country outside somalia will identify you as your clan but as a Somali. If your parents did not teach you that about yourself, welcome to your reality.

I want Somali officials to use this as an exercise of goodwill to their society and have all clan regions participate without disrespecting Somali sovereingity. Anyone delusional enough to think their tribe is more important than Somalia, well, that speaks to their stupidity.

 

[Von]

It looks like I have to travel by car to Somalia from now on. Aint no way in hell will through Somali sky while Somali ministers look like this

Terrorists on the ground, Pirates in the sea and dysfunctional Somalis in the sky, but we stull all family

 

[Mercury]

someones is gonna hire from his clan who most likely got 0 experience in this field

Just a matter of time someone is gonna die cause of their incompetency

 

[BestCaseScenario]

someones is gonna hire from his clan who most likely got 0 experience in this field

Just a matter of time someone is gonna die cause of their incompetency

This is true for all Somali regions and Somali run businesses and institutions. But at least in this profession, you can't let some dude with no skills of communication take the console and call in a message. You need:

A- Language Other than Somali
B- Some knowledge of basic math to communicate distance
C- Sight , to actually be able to see something


Despite the person selected to do this job's clan, If they meet the criteria and can handle the air control tasks, we should be fine with it.


Aan ku Waydiiyee saxib, today in Hargaysa, don't they have their own air traffic control? The guys who run there come from the local clans and that should not be a disqualifier if they are doing their job.


A Somali is the worst enemy other Somalis have. The worst put downs come form other Somalis. Mother fuckers can't even believe the kind of job I do because they think my job is too good for me and that I am not educated enough to do what I do. The first question they ask me is whether I am a driver for the institution I work for when I mention where I work. It never occurs to them THAT a Somali can achieve something good, and when a Somali does achieve a goal that is noble, they resent. All these clan topics started lately are out of resentment to what Somalia gained even though Somalia is still powerless because of itws own sons and daughters that let it down every fucking day the sun rises.

Leave it to a Somali to put down their own kind so bad that foreigners feel bad for Somalis.


ALL OF YOU ON THIS SHITHOLE, HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT FOR YOURSELVES. YOU ARE ALL LOW CLASS INDIVIDUALS AND THE POR REFELCTION OF A FAMILIES YOU ALL HAIL FROM.

 

[Mercury]

This is true for all Somali regions and Somali run businesses and institutions. But at least in this profession, you can't let some dude with no skills of communication take the console and call in a message. You need:

A- Language Other than Somali
B- Some knowledge of basic math to communicate distance
C- Sight , to actually be able to see something


Despite the person selected to do this job's clan, If they meet the criteria and can handle the air control tasks, we should be fine with it.


Aan ku Waydiiyee saxib, today in Hargaysa, don't they have their own air traffic control? The guys who run there come from the local clans and that should not be a disqualifier if they are doing their job.


A Somali is the worst enemy other Somalis have. The worst put downs come form other Somalis. Mother fuckers can't even believe the kind of job I do because they think my job is too good for me and that I am not educated enough to do what I do. The first question they ask me is whether I am a driver for the institution I work for when I mention where I work. It never occurs to them THAT a Somali can achieve something good, and when a Somali does achieve a goal that is noble, they resent. All these clan topics started lately are out of resentment to what Somalia gained even though Somalia is still powerless because of itws own sons and daughters that let it down every fucking day the sun rises.

Leave it to a Somali to put down their own kind so bad that foreigners feel bad for Somalis.


ALL OF YOU ON THIS SHITHOLE, HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT FOR YOURSELVES. YOU ARE ALL LOW CLASS INDIVIDUALS AND THE POR REFELCTION OF A FAMILIES YOU ALL HAIL FROM.

Sxb I dont know how the air in Hargeysa is run But Im sure its the same thing where they hire someone from the same clan rather than whose got the best qualifications

Somalis are their worst enemy you could come with a great business Idea and people Will call it impossible or stupid BUt if an cadaan came up with the exact same Idea suddenly everyone agrees its a great idea

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Sxb I dont know how the air in Hargeysa is run But Im sure its the same thing where they hire someone from the same clan rather than whose got the best qualifications

Somalis are their worst enemy you could come with a great business Idea and people Will call it impossible or stupid BUt if an cadaan came up with the exact same Idea suddenly everyone agrees its a great idea

We shouldn't be discouraged by the facts on the ground that are not perfect. The Local clans running their city in their own corrupted way is better than an occupying force to run their affairs for them. Some lose and some win in a corrupt clan based systems. Qabiil is a disease. We pray and hope things speed up towards just dealing among Somalis.

Here is all information you need about Egal Internaitonal Airport of Hargeysa. It is run by Somali professionals with the help and equipment provided by NGOs/Amisom. News to me too. But you can read up all you need on this link below.

http://dlca.logcluster.org/pages/re...813783BA3E6AFA3D611435FEE39D47?pageId=4227548

 

[BestCaseScenario]

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Egal International Airport, serves Hargeisa, is operative only during the daytime. Travelers can obtain visas upon arrival.

Location Details
Country Somalia Latitude 9.483333
Province / District North West Longitude 44.10056
Town or City (Closest) Hargeisa (1 km) Elevation (ft) 4,422 feet asl
Airfield Name Egal International Airport IATA and ICAO Codes HGA & HCMH
Open From (hours) 0600 Open To (hours) 1800
Runways
Runway #1

Runway Dimensions

2 400m x 45m

Orientation

24/06

Surface

Asphalt
Hargeisa runway has been rehabilitated recently. Due to undulations there is a possibility of standing water after heavy rain. The surface is clean and free of stones.

Airport Infrastructure Details
All equipment is working well since it was provided and is been handled by UNSOA/AMISOM staff or the ground handler.

Customs

Yes
JET A-1 fuel

Yes
Immigration

Yes
AVGAS 100

No
Terminal Building

Yes
Single Point Refueling

No
Passenger Terminal

Yes
Air Starter Units

No
Cargo terminal

No
Ground Power (mobile)

Yes
Pax transport to airfield

Yes
Ground Handling Services

Yes
Control Tower

Yes
Latrine Servicing

Yes
Weather Facilities

Yes
Fire Fighting Category (ICAO)

n/a
Catering Services

No
De-icing Equipment

n/a
Base Operating Room

Yes
Parking Ramp Lighting

No
Airport Radar

No
Approach & Runway Lights

No
NDB

No
VOR

No
ILS

No



Passenger and Cargo Performance Indicator
The airport has no cargo terminal and there are no hi-loaders. Forklifts, belts and trolleys are used to handle cargo.

Performance for 2012

Annual Figures

Monthly
Daily
Total aircraft movements

6,120 510 17
Total passengers

85,800 7 150 235
Total capacity of the airport (metric tonnes)

n/a n/a n/a
Current activity of the airport (metric tonnes)

n/a n/a n/a
Current use by Humanitarian flights (UNHAS)

816 68 2
Airport Operating Details
Operating Details
Maximum sized aircraft which can be offloaded on bulk cargo: B737
Maximum sized aircraft that can be offloaded on pallet B737
Total aircraft parking area (m²) 15,400 m²
Storage Area (mt) No Cubic Meters (m³) n/a
Cargo Handling Equipment Available (Yes / No) No If "Yes" specify below
Elevators / Hi Loaders (Yes / No) No Max Capacity (mt) Forklift, max 3mt
Can elevators / hi loaders reach the upper level of a B747 (Yes / No) No
Loading Ramps (Yes / No) No
Storage Facilities
There are storage facilities in Hargeisa as per described above but hardly used as cargo is removed from airport for security reasons on day of arrival.

Airfield Cost
Navigation Charges
Aircraft Weight - MTOW (kg)
Navigation (per journey) USD - $

Landing USD - $

Night Landing USD - $

Night Take-Off USD - $

Parking Handling Charges
0 7,000 $0 $50 n/a n/a $15 $95
7,001 136,000 $0 $150 n/a n/a $75 $300
136,001 and over n/a n/a n/a n/a
n/a

n/a
Note 1: Night landings are not permitted

Note 2: Parking charges are calculated for each 24 hours or part thereof

Note 3: All of these charges are administered by the government and are not the same for all airports in Somaliland

Fuel Services Charges

Price per Unit
Jet A-1 $1.08 / litre
Avgas n/a
Cargo Terminal Charges
These charges are not applicable to UNHAS because they have a flat rate per flight.

Air-bridge Charges
Hargeisa does not have any air-bridges

Security
Good security procedures are in place. X-ray machines, walk through metal detectors and well trained aviation security personnel are in place.

Companies Available
For information on Somalia Airport contact details, please see the following link:

4.2.5 Somalia Airport Company Contact List

Information on some aviation service providers can be found at: http://www.azfreight.com/

 

[BestCaseScenario]

PRETTY GOOD I WOULD SAY. SO it is safe to LAND IN HARGAYSA with the local Somalis taking care of business.