Muslims, wtf?

[axmedxajiisback]

Can someone answer why exMuslims always have something to say about Islam?

I've also noticed their are two types of murtads: Some are extremely laid back gaals and proud of their atheism but most are extremely hateful against Islam and seem to have a personal vendetta against the religion.

Are you not content with you apostasy? Do you have some sort of doubt and are lashing out because of it? Why does talking about the religion you left do for you exactly?

Because Islam says things like these about people like me, and I don't like it. And by the way, you're an online Jihadi enforcing this right now

Sahih Bukhari (84:57) - [In the words of] "Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Sahih Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

So, yeah. Those are some of the reasons I'm "obsessed" with Islam.

 

[ethan bradberry]

Because Islam says things like these about people like me, and I don't like it. And by the way, you're an online Jihadi enforcing this right now

Sahih Bukhari (84:57) - [In the words of] "Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Sahih Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

So, yeah. Those are some of the reasons I'm "obsessed" with Islam.

show this to your parents if you think your a bigman

 

[axmedxajiisback]

show this to your parents if you think your a bigman

My parents are fucking brainwashed Muslims who put their 7th century nonsense over reality, like the people on this forum. It's possible that some deranged f*ck in my house would stab me in my sleep.Why would I tell this to my family? This coming from a so-called agnostic?!?

 

[dr.leorio]

Because Islam says things like these about people like me, and I don't like it. And by the way, you're an online Jihadi enforcing this right now

oh please, you're insane mate. You know nothing wallahi, but keep living in fantasyland since your sanity is long gone.

 

[ethan bradberry]

My parents are fucking brainwashed Muslims who put their 7th century nonsense over reality, like the people on this forum. It's possible that some deranged f*ck in my house would stab me in my sleep.Why would I tell this to my family? This coming from a so-called agnostic?!?

you seem to have a lot of hate to muslims so i just figured that you would like to tell your parents about how backward islam supposedly is. you seem to conflate islam with wahhabism which is a more extreme and recent offshoot of islam. also my mum knows im agnostic and she doesnt mind.

 

[I've spoken]

show this to your parents if you think your a bigman

Why are you defending the muzzies? We're going to take your gaalnimo pass away

 

[axmedxajiisback]

you seem to have a lot of hate to muslims so i just figured that you would like to tell your parents about how backward islam supposedly is. you seem to conflate islam with wahhabism which is a more extreme and recent offshoot of islam. also my mum knows im agnostic and she doesnt mind.

Your Somali mom knows you're an agnostic and is ok with it? Yeah, right. That only works if you pretend to pray and go to dugsi etc. Where the f*ck do you live where Somalis are ok with apostate kids?

 

[I've spoken]

Al-Tirmidhi

Narrated AbuHurayrah

While Allah's Prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions were sitting clouds came over them and Allah's Prophet (peace be upon him) asked, "Do you know what these are?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger knew best, he said, "These are the clouds (anan), these are the water-carriers of the Earth, which Allah drives to people who do not thank Him or call upon him." He then asked, "Do you know what is above you?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the firmament, a ceiling which is guarded and waves which are kept back." He then asked, "Do you know what is between you and it?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Between you and it are five hundred years." He then asked, "Do you knew what is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) best he said, "Two heavens with a distance of five hundred years between them." He went on speaking like that till he counted seven heavens, the distance between each pair being like between Heaven and Earth. He then asked, "Do you know what is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Above that is the Throne, and the distance between it and the (seventh) heaven is the same as that between each pair of heavens." He then asked, "Do you know what is below you?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the earth." He then asked, "Do you know what is under that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Under it there is another Earth with a journey of five hundred years between them," and so on till he had counted seven earths with a journey of five hundred years between each pair. He then said, "By Him in Whose hand Muhammad's soul is, if you were to drop a rope to the lowest earth it would not pass out of Allah's knowledge." He then recited, "He is the First and the Last, the Outward and the Inward, and He is omniscient." (Tirmidhi commented that Allah's Messenger's recitation of the verse indicates that it would go down within Allah's knowledge, power and authority, for Allah's knowledge, power and authority are everywhere, while He is on the Throne, as He described Himself in His Book.)

Ahmad and Tirmidhi transmitted it. (Number 1513- taken from the ALIM CD-ROM Version)

I hope you don't expect an actual answer from the muzzies, they themselves don't know their religion. they follow blindly

 

[ethan bradberry]

Your Somali mom knows you're an agnostic and is ok with it? Yeah, right. That only works if you pretend to pray and go to dugsi etc. Where the f*ck do you live where Somalis are ok with apostate kids?

my mum is djiboutian, shes very liberal.

 

[ethan bradberry]

Why are you defending the muzzies? We're going to take your gaalnimo pass away

i respect everyones religious beliefs

 

[axmedxajiisback]

i respect everyones religious beliefs

That's one-way respect. Islam does NOT respect your non-religion or agnosticism. This is not a "Wahhabi" thing and is across the board. There are no "Wahhabi" verses or hadiths.

 

[axmedxajiisback]

I hope you don't expect an actual answer from the muzzies, they themselves don't know their religion. they follow blindly

Oh shit that's funny. I just realized no body addressed or responded to the hadith.

 

[ethan bradberry]

That's one-way respect. Islam does NOT respect your non-religion or agnosticism. This is not a "Wahhabi" thing and is across the board. There are no "Wahhabi" verses or hadiths.

mate you must be living under a bridge, theres 1.6billion muslims who all have different interpretations of the quran and hadith, majority of those are peaceful people who are just going on with there lives. you shouldn't generalise.

 

[horumar]

my mum is djiboutian, shes very liberal.

Repping the pure reer waqooyi values! My g

 

[government]

Ask your parents

 

[ethan bradberry]

Repping the pure reer waqooyi values! My g

 

[axmedxajiisback]

Ask your parents

My parents believe every word of it and won't bother to twist it around and try to make sense of it like you would. They also expect me to accept it as truth which I don't for obvious reasons. Why don't you talk about it?

 

[Strawberryshuffle]

Because Islam says things like these about people like me, and I don't like it. And by the way, you're an online Jihadi enforcing this right now

Sahih Bukhari (84:57) - [In the words of] "Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Sahih Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

So, yeah. Those are some of the reasons I'm "obsessed" with Islam.

You must have noooo ideaa. why this was enforced in the first place do you?? Basically when Islam started growing, and spreading. There was a group of Gaalo's who thought lets all join the religion and leave it in masses. Basically to stir up doubt in the hearts of people with weak imaan and to prevent people who were interested in Islam to join the deen . Since who would join a religion where people join in masses and leave short after that. This group of gaalo used to do this a couple of times till they got found out. and leaving the religion became punishable by death. When this became known that certain group of gaalo they obviously stopped reverting in and out of the Deen.

Concerning the seven earths and the seven heavens the scholars differ in opinion on that certain hadith.
However what we do know to be true is that there are 7 layers of athmosphere (heaven) above us and that there are 7 layers of earth under us as well.

Concerning the 500 years time frame mentioned. What I do know about the mention of numbers like 700, 777, 7000 is that they were used to mention long time spans rather than an exact number since in arabic those numbers are often used as to indicate something has a long time span or a high quantity. In this case I don't know since i'm not a scholar unfortunately.

However what I do find intriguing is how you want an explanation for this hadith without looking at some other facts.. like how could they have known at time that the earth was 7 layered and the sky was 7 layered. They did not have any modern techniques to measure the components in the heavens or the earth. What's your answer to that.

 

[axmedxajiisback]

mate you must be living under a bridge, theres 1.6billion muslims who all have different interpretations of the quran and hadith, majority of those are peaceful people who are just going on with there lives. you shouldn't generalise.

No, mate I live in the 21st century and I'm seeing whats out there, not what I would like. I don't know where you live but Islam (generally) is far from what you think it is.

You must have noooo ideaa. why this was enforced in the first place do you?? Basically when Islam started growing, and spreading. There was a group of Gaalo's who thought lets all join the religion and leave it in masses. Basically to stir up doubt in the hearts of people with weak imaan and to prevent people who were interested in Islam to join the deen . Since who would join a religion where people join in masses and leave short after that. This group of gaalo used to do this a couple of times till they got found out. and leaving the religion became punishable by death. When this became known that certain group of gaalo they obviously stopped reverting in and out of the Deen.

Concerning the seven earths and the seven heavens the scholars differ in opinion on that certain hadith.
However what we do know to be true is that there are 7 layers of athmosphere (heaven) above us and that there are 7 layers of earth under us as well.

Concerning the 500 years time frame mentioned. What I do know about the mention of numbers like 700, 777, 7000 is that they were used to mention long time spans rather than an exact number since in arabic those numbers are often used as to indicate something has a long time span or a high quantity. In this case I don't know since i'm not a scholar unfortunately.

However what I do find intriguing is how you want an explanation for this hadith without looking at some other facts.. like how could they have known at time that the earth was 7 layered and the sky was 7 layered. They did not have any modern techniques to measure the components in the heavens or the earth. What's your answer to that.

At least you tried explaining it unlike the cowards on this forum. So, the stars are a decoration for the lowest heaven (Traposphere), right? And he said 7 earths, not layers of this earth. Also, the throne of Allah is on top of the 7th heaven (Ionosphere). Are you sure you want to go with this explanation?

 

[Strawberryshuffle]

No, mate I live in the 21st century and I'm seeing whats out there, not what I would like. I don't know where you live but Islam (generally) is far from what you think it is.

At least you tried explaining it unlike the cowards on this forum.

Khair in sha Allaah. I'm far from perfect., but I try to read and understand instead of following the general masses. May Allah guide you on the right path ameen.