My fellow Atheists - what's your opinion on Ayaan?

[Bahal]

Absolute scum of the earth.

 

[Gambar]

Most of her issues revolve around FGM like other Somali women in the public eye. She doesn't come across as too intelligent, as a matter of fact she's intellectually dishonest.

 

[Inactive]

I like her. Those who don't are not atheists. She never attacks Somalis, just Arabs and Sunnis so it doesn't make sense that Somali atheists are her loudest critics. She never attacks Shias.

But like I said, they are not atheists, just pretenders.

 

[ItzDoctorZ]

She's decent I guess. What exactly makes her so bad? (Don't say her views on Islam)

 

[The_Cosmos]

Most of her issues revolve around FGM like other Somali women in the public eye. She doesn't come across as too intelligent, as a matter of fact she's intellectually dishonest.

How is she intellectually dishonest?

 

[Jujuman]

I don't have particularly strong feelings towards her but I respect her for calling out Islam's transgressions in public.

 

[Gambar]

How is she intellectually dishonest?

She is intellectually dishonest by conflating Arabic cultural practices and Islam. I agree with a lot of her views but she tends to exaggerate. Like most "born" Muslims who tend to mix the religion and culture she does the same to prove her point.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Absolute scum of the earth.

Are you coming out as an atheist?? OP was specifically calling on the views of atheists.

 

[The_Cosmos]

She is intellectually dishonest by conflating Arabic cultural practices and Islam. I agree with a lot of her views but she tends to exaggerate. Like most "born" Muslims who tend to mix the religion and culture she does the same to prove her point.

But then you're assuming that she does conflate the two. Believe it or not, Islam isn't this perfect religion you lot love to make it out. Islam does include in it many things which are objectionable. Nonetheless, I don't want to turn this into a debate about religion.

 

[Gambar]

But then you're assuming that she does conflate the two. Believe it or not, Islam isn't this perfect religion you lot love to make it out. Islam does include in it many things which are objectionable. Nonetheless, I don't want to turn this into a debate about religion.

Walal I agree with that with all due respect. For example, FGM is performed on Somali girls although it is a cultural practice. Somalis still practice it even though they know it is forbidden in the deen. They conflate the two issues and so does Ayan by making it also seem that it is an Islamic practice. She's an opportunist and a known liar. Although some of the things she says holds weight, the fact that she's a neo con shill and a fraud takes away from that.

 

[Bahal]

Are you coming out as an atheist?? OP was specifically calling on the views of atheists.

Coming out?

 

[Bielsa]

I like her. Those who don't are not atheists. She never attacks Somalis, just Arabs and Sunnis so it doesn't make sense that Somali atheists are her loudest critics. She never attacks Shias.

But like I said, they are not atheists, just pretenders.

You're right about this. I've never seen her attack Somalis.

@Bahal Why is she scum of the earth? I dislike her pandering to the right and her sucking off neo cons but beyond that she's meh...

 

[Mohamud]

Used to find her intriguing and very engaging but the more I listen to her the more I realize she has virtually nothing to offer and her rhetoric is pretty mundane. Borderline useless.

Not an Atheist but those are my views on the woman

 

[Winchester76]

She is great. People like to demonize her but if you watch every interview she has ever had or lecture she has ever given she has always been against Islam as an ideology not the people as human beings. The ones who attack her are intellectually lazy to be honest.

 

[Winchester76]

I like her. Those who don't are not atheists. She never attacks Somalis, just Arabs and Sunnis so it doesn't make sense that Somali atheists are her loudest critics. She never attacks Shias.

But like I said, they are not atheists, just pretenders.

Exactly my thinking, exposes how they havent really followed her at all. She has given countless interviews, lectures, and written books. If you're still thinking this woman is against Muslims you're an idiot. She is against Islam and Islamists. Only ppl mad are Islamists

 

[Bielsa]

She is great. People like to demonize her but if you watch every interview she has ever had or lecture she has ever given she has always been against Islam as an ideology not the people as human beings. The ones who attack her are intellectually lazy to be honest.

Her politics is shit. I've listened to her many times and read many pieces she's written and I still think she's problematic.

 

[Winchester76]

Her politics is shit. I've listened to her many times and read many pieces she's written and I still think she's problematic.

examples please

 

[VixR]

Maybe I'm an outlier here, even among the atheists, but I've seen several interviews and content of hers (though I haven't read any of her books) and I don't feel strongly about her, but and I see nothing wrong with her views and those of a couple of others in her camp, including Sam Harris and co. Like him, she's against Islamism. I certainly don't hate her like the average Somali.

None of your options apply. Your poll sucks (clear bias).

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Sad to see beesha lose someone of her caliber. She would have been a great asset to beesha. Alas it was not meant to be.

 

[NoName]

Maybe I'm an outlier here, even among the atheists, but I've seen several interviews and content of hers (though I haven't read any of her books) and I don't feel strongly about her, but and I see nothing wrong with her views and those of a couple of others in her camp, including Sam Harris and co. Like him, she's against Islamism. I certainly don't hate her like the average Somali.

None of your options apply. Your poll sucks (clear bias).

Surely the second option then?