Nimko Ali, prominent somalilander, is exposed

[Futurist]

There is no continous Habar Younis population from Waqooyi Galbeed to Sanaag either, what a stupid argument.

Yes there is. You dont know WTF you on about

Continues HY population from Hawd in Ethiopia, through east waqooyi galbeed borders, through west and central togdheer to Sanaag

 

[nine]

That is not what i said. Re read carefully. I merely pointed out that in a country like Somalia there are scare capital resources, that incidentally were being misappropriated by the ruling dictatorship. The ruling government prioritised Mogadishu over all other places in the country, even if the ruling individuals and their relatives enriched themselves. It was their fatal error in the end.

Economically it made sense to build the road from Mogadishu to Hargeisa because of economics and because Hargeisa and Berbera were big tax generating areas. A road to Garbahaarey made less sense. Surely you see that?

A road to Gedo is extremely important. How do you expect food to be transported easily? Gedo borders Ethiopia and Kenya. Having roads is extremely important.
And FYI there were reer baadiyo from his own reer Kooshin SubSub Clan.
Roads to Berbera and Doolow are both important.

 

[World]

Yes that is true. OGs have continues population, as do pockets of Dir so they have been there very long. MX have been there also for some time, but more recently

The ast to arrive were MJ and DH are all relatively recent arrivals to Kismaayo. If you deny this you are lying to yourself. The facts and evidence of demographics speaks for itself

“The Marehan tribe occupy the north-east part in the neighbourhood of Serenleh and Dolo. From Italian territory they have emigrated into Jubaland during the last twenty years, and are still inclined to be turbulent. They are possessors of large numbers of camels, and of horses also in lesser number, but, unlike the Ogaden, they do not rear cattle extensively. Probably their numbers do not exceed 5000.

The Herti Somali occupy the coast and extend inland as far as the Deshek Wama. Of the three sub-tribes of the Herti, the Midjertein [Majeerteen] are the most numerous in Jubaland, while the Wasengeleh are but few in number and the Dolbahanta still remain to the east of the Juba. The Herti do business as traders as well as rear cattle. Their numbers are about 3000.

The Ogaden Somali are split up into five important sub-tribes are the Mohamed Zubeir, the Aulihan, the Abd Wak, the Abdallah, and the Magharbul. Two other sub-tribes are of less importance, namely, the Her Mohamed and the Habr Suliman. It is remarkable that the so-called Mad Mullah, Mohamed Abdullah Hassan, belongs to the very unimportant tribe of the Habr Suliman. Of the Ogaden in Jubaland the Mohamed Zubeir are the most influential and numerous. They occupy the Afmadu district as far south as the Deshek Wama, and own immense quantities of cattle. The Aulihan tribe frequent the district to the west and south of Serenleh. They are rich in camels as well as cattle, and the Juba river is their main water-supply.

The Abd Wak and the Abdullah tribes occupy the districts of Rauia-adi and Lorian. The latter of these tribes wander as far as the Tana river seeking for water in the dry season. The Abd Wak are the more numerous, and might be able to put 1000 spearmen and riflemen in the field. Between these two above-mentioned tribes and the Mohamed Zubeir tribe there is a constant feud which sometimes leads to a fight. The Maghaabul sub-tribe occupies the sub-district to the east of Rama-adi, known as Joreh. Though they are not strong numerically, yet they are rich in cattle.

It is, perhaps, necessary to repeat that only Darud [Darood] Somali are to be found in Jubaland"

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1778081?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

F. Elliott
The Geographical Journal
Vol. 41, No. 6 (Jun., 1913), pp. 554-561

Written 105 years ago. But yes, we only arrived after the civil war. LOL.

 

[nine]

Yes that is true. OGs have continues population, as do pockets of Dir so they have been there very long. MX have been there also for some time, but more recently

The ast to arrive were MJ and DH are all relatively recent arrivals to Kismaayo. If you deny this you are lying to yourself. The facts and evidence of demographics speaks for itself

No they Don't. OGs don't have continuous population to Shilaabo.
Harti are NOT newcomers. and MX aren't aswell.

@World Just to add on your point on the JL history

The British East Africa administration was reluctant to withdraw too many troops from Jubaland, apparently fearing the activities of Marehan raiders more than the activities of the Schutztruppe across the western border in German East Africa. (At that time both the Governors of British & German East Africa hoped that they could avoid conflict with each other.)
http://gweaa.com/foreign-service-ha...itish-german-east-africa-part-august-january/

In 1925 local authorities from the Marehan Marehan Somali clans reached an agreement, the signatories each had different accounts of the agreed to partition. According to the Marehan, the pact gave their Ugas Hirse control of Jubaland at large, the pact also allowed the Isse access to the port.
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Italian_Trans-Juba

 

[Futurist]

A road to Gedo is extremely important. How do you expect food to be transported easily? Gedo borders Ethiopia and Kenya. Having roads is extremely important.
And FYI there were reer baadiyo from his own reer Kooshin SubSub Clan.
Roads to Berbera and Doolow are both important.

Big agricultural areas were served by the roads. This included Baidoa, Jowhar, Afgooye, Beledweyne, Awdal.

Gedo was less important unfortunately. This is a simple fact

 

[World]

Yes there is. You dont know WTF you on about

Continues HY population from Hawd in Ethiopia, through east waqooyi galbeed borders, through west and central togdheer to Sanaag

Here is a clan map of Hawd, Ethiopia.

And here is a clan map of Northwest Somalia:

So where exactly do the Western and Eastern HY meet?

 

[Futurist]

Here is a clan map of Hawd, Ethiopia.

View attachment 41958


And here is a clan map of Northwest Somalia:

View attachment 41959

So where exactly do the Western and Eastern HY meet?

In Burco Einstein. Aka central Togdheer connected by road to Ceel Afweyn

 

[nine]

Big agricultural areas were served by the roads. This included Baidoa, Jowhar, Afgooye and Beledweyne.

Gedo was less important unfortunately. This is a simple fact

Gedo borders Ethiopia and Kenya. Transport is essential. MSB wasn't building infrastructure for Mareexaan. The historical Sarinley was just some huts and still is.

 

[World]

In Burco Einstein. Aka central Togdheer

Which the Eastern HY don’t live in. They only live in Northwestern Sool, and Sanaag. The Habar Jeclo stop them from having a continuous territory.

Lol, you don’t even know about your own clan.

Oh and you conveniently ignored the 105 year old document I just posted that showed the Harti were already strong in Jubbaland.

 

[DRACO]

It was in the famous 1974 drought. It wasnt just Isaaq refugees but reer waqooyi in general including Dhulbahante and Gudabiirsi

It was in order to populate the unpopulated regions in the south with low population

SLers could bring business and investment

But most left after a few months because the area was too underdeveloped. They were used to being near Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera, Boorama, Las Anod. Big cities and towns.

That is why there are no reer waqooyi in the South today

I hope SL starts an outreach programme in Jubadda Hoose to bring democracy and development there soon. And also to teach Af Soomaali faseex (original Af Somali aka reer Waqooyi)

True brudda

 

[nine]

I hope SL starts an outreach programme in Jubadda Hoose to bring democracy and development there soon. And also to teach Af Soomaali faseex (original Af Somali aka reer Waqooyi)

We don't want to speak Hindi. Aabahaa cun

 

[father of the camel]

We don't want to speak Hindi. Aabahaa cun

 

[father of the camel]

Big agricultural areas were served by the roads. This included Baidoa, Jowhar, Afgooye, Beledweyne, Awdal.

Gedo was less important unfortunately. This is a simple fact

Jowhar ,beledweyne and afgoye .may allah bless our beautifull lands

 

[father of the camel]

Yes there is. You dont know WTF you on about

Continues HY population from Hawd in Ethiopia, through east waqooyi galbeed borders, through west and central togdheer to Sanaag

Horta what are you ?hy or hj ?
There is an intresting inter issaq clan war going on another thread you join .

 

[nine]

Big agricultural areas were served by the roads. This included Baidoa, Jowhar, Afgooye, Beledweyne, Awdal.

Gedo was less important unfortunately. This is a simple fact

Juba River has a higher output, so it should be more developed.

 

[father of the camel]

No we still live in middle juba only you isaaq left.

View attachment 41945

Some of these landers are delusional,they dont even know the amount of issaqs living in our beautifull capitol who escaped from the draught.but want to talk shit about it .

 

[Futurist]

We don't want to speak Hindi. Aabahaa cun

Dont worry. SL will bring you the reer waqayooyi enlightenment. We will bring you out of the dark ages.

Dalai Lama Cirro will come with instructions

 

[Futurist]

Horta what are you ?hy or hj ?
There is an intresting inter issaq clan war going on another thread you join .

Im SL and past that none of your fucking business

 

[nine]

Some of these landers are delusional,they dont even know the amount of issaqs living in our beautifull capitol who escaped from the draught.but want to talk shit about it .

They like to diss us but if they came running the Jubbooyinka or shabeellada they would be allowed to live.

 

[Futurist]

Some of these landers are delusional,they dont even know the amount of issaqs living in our beautifull capitol who escaped from the draught.but want to talk shit about it .

They are Dirty Waqooyi

We have disowned them