No Red Sea Access For Ethiopia

[IKHALIIL]

 

[X29]

So what does this mean for us

 

[Hilmaam]

Ethiopia made clear what they want. Ask yourself why they circling Somalia and HSM and not Djibouti Eritrea or Sudan .

 

[Pastoralist]

No armed forces/navy/Air Force=ethiopia will get whatever it wants

 

[Avalanche]

I don't believe anything this administration says until I see it. HSM changed his never allow Ethiopia and Ethiopia waa 1da cadow to inviting him on honeymoon in Liido beach

 

[Hilmaam]

No armed forces/navy/Air Force=ethiopia will get whatever it wants

HSM was backed into corner if he doesn’t give them deal , somaliland was going to. HSM can negotiate better deal at least and maybe get something tangible

 

[Neptune]

HSM was backed into corner if he doesn’t give them deal , somaliland was going to. HSM can negotiate better deal at least and maybe get something tangible

He was not backed into a corner. He legitimized Somaliland and empowered them to do the MOU.

 

[Hilmaam]

I don't believe anything this administration says until I see it. HSM changed his never allow Ethiopia and Ethiopia waa 1da cadow to inviting him on honeymoon in Liido beach

To many people see the port as end of the world. its not and power dynamics can shift in future. somalia has 10k ethiopian troops inside country who said they not leaving and saying they need to secure border. it will be much harder to dislodge these folks vs port deal inside heart of somalia. these border folks been under Ethiopians so long many choose them over fgs. FGS is being cut up by ethiopia to where it will be just bendair and another FMS.

 

[Hilmaam]

He was not backed into a corner. He legitimized Somaliland and empowered them to do the MOU.

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every president has tried to negotiate and meet with them. somaliland decoupled for way to long no real good solution when somalia in so much chaos. ignore or bring them to table both seem to make situation worse

 

[Avalanche]

To many people see the port as end of the world. its not and power dynamics can shift in future. somalia has 10k ethiopian troops inside country who said they not leaving and saying they need to secure border. it will be much harder to dislodge these folks vs port deal inside heart of somalia. these border folks been under Ethiopians so long many choose them over fgs. FGS is being cut up by ethiopia to where it will be just bendair and another FMS.

That doesn't really justify anything HSM has done tbh. We are occupied by foreign forces which is being used as a propaganda tool by extremists like Al Shabaab. It's literally a lose-lose situation. Somalia is in a hopeless position and HSM doesn't make it any better whatsoever.

 

[Hilmaam]

That doesn't really justify anything HSM has done tbh. We are occupied by foreign forces which is being used as a propaganda tool by extremists like Al Shabaab. It's literally a lose-lose situation. Somalia is in a hopeless position and HSM doesn't make it any better whatsoever.

i agree. he doesnt have power to make it better. but he does have power make it worse . like starting war he cant win. he taking only avenue open to him. he already signed the defense deal with ethiopia to stay in country.

Now second phase is giving them some kind of sea access. im just hoping we get something substantial like ethiopian airlines and gerd access with contract that can be reviewed every 10 yrs or so.

 

[Avalanche]

i agree. he doesnt have power to make it better. but he does have power make it worse . like starting war he cant win. he taking only avenue open to him. he already signed the defense deal with ethiopia to stay in country.

Now second phase is giving them some kind of sea access. im just hoping we get something substantial like ethiopian airlines and gerd access with contract that can be reviewed every 10 yrs or so.

I don't know about that, I can't see how what substantial Somalia can gain from Ethiopia other than just pleasing them with whatever stopping them from further dividing our nation.

 

[NordicSomali]

Why don’t we give them access for money ?

 

[Midas]

From the ethiopian perspective hoboyo or garcaad or even any other port facing the Indian Ocean is basically useless. Since those ports are like 1600 km + away from addis ababa with no good roads from ethiopia to those ports. They would also be useless for building a navy.