The ICU were capturing towns 300km from Mogadishu and yet now the current gov can't capture Jilib after what 14 or so odd years?
Extreme corruption and incompetence of the FGS is to blame for that. Its nigh impossible to have a united front against terrorists with the 4.5 system that was designed to keep the country fractured.
Yes it was a US backed Ethiopian occupation. There was no such thing as a tfg in reality it was Addis controlling Mogadishu trying to destroy the ICU which America wanted gone
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, btw 33 years and no independance and puntland is used for ransom by isisI dont but its hard not to recognize that they had some level of competence compared to the government, documentaries also highlight the stability they broughtanother icu terrorist apologiser
Fake news. you wish we were like mogadishu you xaasid hutu https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd163e4yll4o.amp
Ohhh now i get it, you are a fan of former warlord AY, crazy to think that your idol had to beg gaal habashis to fight fellow somalis so called hutus. Too bad he will be always remembered as a fraud
It was an invasion. Clan loyalties make people blind.
90 till 2006 Xamar and the South was in the hands of moriyaans. Xamar's districts were divided between different warlords ruling based on clan.
People had enough, made a grassroot movement which was based on an Islamic government and removed the warlords from Xamar and large areas of the south. Reopening the airport and port after 10 years of no service, going all the way to xaradheer and dealing with the pirates...reducing crime.
Look at this aljazeera article
Mogadishu port reopened
The Islamic Courts Union, a Somali militia, has reopened the seaport in Mogadishu, Somalia’s capital, for the first time in 11 years as the group continues to expand its control over the country.www.aljazeera.com
The ICU were capturing towns 300km from Mogadishu and yet now the current gov can't capture Jilib after what 14 or so odd years?
So do you see clearly why they were dismantled? They were a considered a real threat to Ethiopia and the region..why? Let people forget the Islamic aspect(which causes some people to froth in the mouth and say any Islamic movement=extremism/terrorism.) The reason why they were a threat is because it was an independent movement, free from American control and was viewed as an emerging pariah state. In Africa and majority of the global south, America wants puppet leaders and paper states that it builds and can manipulate and control as they wish.
Look at Saudi all these years or even Brunei...they rule by Shariah system which the west vehemently opposes but does America invade them or send their neighbours in order to cause regime change and bring freedom and democracy? No! Why? Because the states I mentioned are compliant and will carry out anything the USA wishes...so they are not a threat but are in reality client states of the USA.
What people don't realise is that even if the ICU wasn't an Islamic state but a nationalist independent movement that it would be considered a threat by America, Israel and our enemies in the horn of Africa.
So the ICU had two red flags, independent movement & Islamic shariah state. The reality is they brought order to konfur somali which was without order for 15 years and is still without order 18 years after the removal of ICU.
The truth of the matter is what happened in Somalia then was regime change in order to put in place a compliant/client state which would not go against America's interest...that was their initial goal and one that they will never steer away from.
So my people the Somali political discourse unbeknown to a lot of people has become, accept the government we have put in place in order for you to be subjugated or if you oppose then you're a "terrorist/AS sympathiser."
They already is a government retard. The problem is that everyone wants to be led by their own clan. Don't go spouting nonsense when your kind had 20+ years to get a head and it still failed to capitalize on it.
You guys almost chimped out without your neighbours and elders interfering, what happened in the south is that the elder's power was stomped out by the Italians, unlike the North the British left us to our own, so our internal political system was intact.
Waxaas yaa lugu cabin. ICU wasn't a terrorist movement, there was a few individuals who were a bit too militant but as a whole the majority of it was an indigenous Muslim movement established in a Muslim majority land.
AS is funded by Ethiopia and other foreigners
Can you explain to me what’s so bad about not going against American interest?It was an invasion. Clan loyalties make people blind.
90 till 2006 Xamar and the South was in the hands of moriyaans. Xamar's districts were divided between different warlords ruling based on clan.
People had enough, made a grassroot movement which was based on an Islamic government and removed the warlords from Xamar and large areas of the south. Reopening the airport and port after 10 years of no service, going all the way to xaradheer and dealing with the pirates...reducing crime.
Look at this aljazeera article
Mogadishu port reopened
The Islamic Courts Union, a Somali militia, has reopened the seaport in Mogadishu, Somalia’s capital, for the first time in 11 years as the group continues to expand its control over the country.
The ICU were capturing towns 300km from Mogadishu and yet now the current gov can't capture Jilib after what 14 or so odd years?
So do you see clearly why they were dismantled? They were a considered a real threat to Ethiopia and the region..why? Let people forget the Islamic aspect(which causes some people to froth in the mouth and say any Islamic movement=extremism/terrorism.) The reason why they were a threat is because it was an independent movement, free from American control and was viewed as an emerging pariah state. In Africa and majority of the global south, America wants puppet leaders and paper states that it builds and can manipulate and control as they wish.
Look at Saudi all these years or even Brunei...they rule by Shariah system which the west vehemently opposes but does America invade them or send their neighbours in order to cause regime change and bring freedom and democracy? No! Why? Because the states I mentioned are compliant and will carry out anything the USA wishes...so they are not a threat but are in reality client states of the USA.
What people don't realise is that even if the ICU wasn't an Islamic state but a nationalist independent movement that it would be considered a threat by America, Israel and our enemies in the horn of Africa.
So the ICU had two red flags, independent movement & Islamic shariah state. The reality is they brought order to konfur somali which was without order for 15 years and is still without order 18 years after the removal of ICU.
The truth of the matter is what happened in Somalia then was regime change in order to put in place a compliant/client state which would not go against America's interest...that was their initial goal and one that they will never steer away from.
So my people the Somali political discourse unbeknown to a lot of people has become, accept the government we have put in place in order for you to be subjugated or if you oppose then you're a "terrorist/AS sympathiser."
