GENETICS Old Kingdom Egyptian is Neolithic Moroccan?

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Egypt_Nuerat_Old_Kingdom:NUE001__BC_2680_Cov_87.67%,0.011382,0.129988,-0.043746,-0.122095,0.008925,-0.05271,-0.029141,-0.006,0.078128,-0.005832,0.008607,-0.017984,0.044152,0,0.00665,0.009546,-0.00326,-0.007348,-0.010559,0.023761,0.002496,-0.002844,0.00986,0.012532,-0.003832

Y-DNA: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y222180/
mtDNA: I

I have a lot to say, but don't have the time to make a fleshed-out post. much more to this. and good things.

until then, have fun playing with it. our best proxy in 2-way run.
 
Garaad Awal

Garaad Awal

Former African
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NidarNidar

NidarNidar

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Garaad Awal said:
What is the AEA Nilotic?
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Got it off a guy on Reddit.

Sudan_AEA_Nilotic,-0.56272837,0.04715103,0.00844811,-0.01816994,-0.00767743,-0.01277314,-0.01311748,0.00252006,0.130011,-0.15324418,-0.02188116,0.01151451,-0.05030099,-0.00063816,0.02455798,-0.04415771,0.03729095,-0.00435367,0.03069317,-0.01649585,0.01409658,0.02152539,-0.00447418,-0.00153823,-0.00535147

 
Garaad Awal

Garaad Awal

Former African
NidarNidar said:
Got it off a guy on Reddit.

Sudan_AEA_Nilotic,-0.56272837,0.04715103,0.00844811,-0.01816994,-0.00767743,-0.01277314,-0.01311748,0.00252006,0.130011,-0.15324418,-0.02188116,0.01151451,-0.05030099,-0.00063816,0.02455798,-0.04415771,0.03729095,-0.00435367,0.03069317,-0.01649585,0.01409658,0.02152539,-0.00447418,-0.00153823,-0.00535147

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I guess it’s Dinka without their Ancient West African ancestry
 
Garaad Awal

Garaad Awal

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Shimbiris said:
Did you guys include Northwestern Yemenis in these models like Jawf, Ma'rib and Bayda?
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Used the Early Islamic Arabs (lack the minor Cushitic in Yemenis) for a Cushitic (Pastoral N & IA), Arab & AE model.Some individuals prefer the Arabs while others prefer the Old Kingdom sample, same goes for the Northern Horners.

Seems like it would be better to use qpadm as both are very similar to each other as heavily Natufian-like pops.

With an ancient basic breakdown run most Horners generally have an even split between AE & Natufians.
 
Shimbiris

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Garaad Awal said:
Used the Early Islamic Arabs (lack the minor Cushitic in Yemenis) for a Cushitic (Pastoral N & IA), Arab & AE model.Some individuals prefer the Arabs while others prefer the Old Kingdom sample, same goes for the Northern Horners.

Seems like it would be better to use qpadm as both are very similar to each other as heavily Natufian-like pops.

With an ancient basic breakdown run most Horners generally have an even split between AE & Natufians.
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I don't think those Yemenis really have any actual Cushitic. Especially from that area of Yemen to the north. In straight forward models (just using Natufian, Mota etc) they don't really show even a hint of Mota. So idk, the "Cushitic" doesn't seem legit to me and even if it is, it's clearly not strong enough to show elements like Mota so the affinity is seemingly more on our side than theirs.

And qpAdm sadly probably wouldn't help too much. As you say, these groups are awfully similar with lots of shared ancient which would further complicate how to select the right outgroups. But good models. I'll noodle when I get the chance and report back sometime.
 
Garaad Awal

Garaad Awal

Former African
Shimbiris said:
I don't think those Yemenis really have any actual Cushitic. Especially from that area of Yemen to the north. In straight forward models (just using Natufian, Mota etc) they don't really show even a hint of Mota. So idk, the "Cushitic" doesn't seem legit to me
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They have minor Cushitic in qpadm. Even the Yemenite Jews have it as well. But this is a topic for another thread
 
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