On this day 29 years ago

His name is mohamed siyaad barre no need to curse his innocent geeljire father
I got nothing bad to say about him. If everyone just let him cook we at worst would be like other soviet satellite states. At best he would’ve had nationalized the oil reserves and made us an East African oil state. It doesn’t have to be oil either literally any sort of unified economy is better than what we have now.
 
Educated wealthy people hated his polices and fled to California during his rule in the 80s average people generally had a decent opinion of him
Yeah I imagine the elites of the 1960s civilian government hated him because he put a stop to their corruption and theft of funds lol. Edna Adnan and her husband Egal used to travel the world visiting other politicians, partying and getting drunk, all at the expense of other Somalis.

Sort of like what HSM is doing right now.
 

The truth seeker

Silent weapons for quiet wars
Very minimal compared to what the soviets gave us. Then we got stuck with the bastard Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter had his own problems to deal with why would he prioritize an African backwater


That guy was the Biden of the 70s but even more embarrassing couldn’t even manage his own political party although i‘ll give him props from starting deregulation and preventing America from becoming like unproductive Europe
 

Tiyeglow

A Laandheere always pays his debts
Majority of weapons Somalia got was from USSR.
The geopolitics of the Cold War can pretty much be epitomised by the Horn from 1960s to 1991 (It is no coincidence that Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia all were in crises in the year 1991).

More specifically, Kacaan was of course USSR friendly (that's who aided and abetted the assassination for Sharmarke to pave the way for the coup, there are no such thing as a bloodless coup) from 1969 until 1977, Ogaden War, then there was a period of flirting by Somalia (1978-1981), then by the 1980's it was all USA who funded the Kacaan regime.

So in reality, it was actually Reagan and towards the end Bush Snr who funded and turned a blindeye towards the destruction he caused throughout the 80's and not USSR. The USSR period was stable and joyful to be fair, so many political milestones.
 

ilmoweyn

𐒁𐒘𐒐𐒖𐒒/Bilan
The geopolitics of the Cold War can pretty much be epitomised by the Horn from 1960s to 1991 (It is no coincidence that Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia all were in crises in the year 1991).

More specifically, Kacaan was of course USSR friendly (that's who aided and abetted the assassination for Sharmarke to pave the way for the coup, there are no such thing as a bloodless coup) from 1969 until 1977, Ogaden War, then there was a period of flirting by Somalia (1978-1981), then by the 1980's it was all USA who funded the Kacaan regime.

So in reality, it was actually Reagan and towards the end Bush Snr who funded and turned a blindeye towards the destruction he caused throughout the 80's and not USSR. The USSR period was stable and joyful to be fair, so many political milestones.
Agreed

Barre became a true dictator/genocider after he realised he was losing power (the USSR betrayal for Ethiopia)

And the US did PR for Barre to protect Somalia's image, actual insanity
 
Barre had a part to play in state decline but I blame the interahamwe USC miltias the most. Barre left with Mogadishu still intact and they could've stopped there and brought everyone together but turned it to Darood vs urur samale. After that, these cawaans turned their guns on each other and the rest is history. This is why somalia is fragmented and will never recover as it is.
 
Barre had a part to play in state decline but I blame the interahamwe USC miltias the most. Barre left with Mogadishu still intact and they could've stopped there and brought everyone together but turned it to Darood vs urur samale. After that, these cawaans turned their guns on each other and the rest is history. This is why somalia is fragmented and will never recover as it is.
That’s why I laugh when they blame MSB for the state of Somalia. When they ousted him from power what did they do with the opportunity? They squandered their chance with zero sum conflicts.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP


Jaale Siyaad the last proper zookeeper passed away and with him the last shred of Somalia's dignity went. History has truly vindicated you. :wow1: :wow: three decades later and look at the state of this country. From warlords to terrorists to organised state sponsored mass theft and looting and everything in between his words truly live on.

"When I leave Somalia, I will leave behind buildings but not people."

The SSDF surrendered post 1986 after abdillahi yusuf was arrested when they were advised of menguistu evil plans of no post Somalia settlement between rebel groups. The idiots here who support SSDF don't know they became siyad loyalist in the end, their just copying them xoolo Snm who our people and time period looked down on. Even USC love siyad barre.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP


Jaale Siyaad the last proper zookeeper passed away and with him the last shred of Somalia's dignity went. History has truly vindicated you. :wow1: :wow: three decades later and look at the state of this country. From warlords to terrorists to organised state sponsored mass theft and looting and everything in between his words truly live on.

"When I leave Somalia, I will leave behind buildings but not people."

He was our Paul Kagame oo la garan wayay(misunderstood) a man of great vision, a great man of setting up Somalis to not only survive but set a course so they thrive while keeping their cultural identity intact.

He told all his advisors and ministers anything that doesn't address those long term goals will be dismissed irrespective of family, friends, clan interest. Truly a man ahead of his time period and peers and honoured by us 30 years later which is to late tho, but history has definitely proven him to be the best man for Somalia when compared to 91 to 2024 period.

Siyad is my political hero anything I think of I always check it off with how would siyad grade it.

Look Up Baltimore Orioles GIF by MLB


But in 91 to 2024 period I choose between hellish players and abdillahi yusuf was the least worst and is my inspiration in civil war Somalia. Someone needs to grow a backbone and balls and stop these moryans(highway bandits and propery looters) and terrorists(zako cash cow) and political leaders(looting aid, taxes, loans to somalia). Abdillahi tried his best but it's still there these enemy of somali people.
 
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