Only investments can save PM Khayre, not politics

[Cadmus]

@Cadmus security and stability are crucial to any investment from outside which can create jobs and rapid growth.

No one will invest in a volatile country and where there is a risk of insecurity as things might erupt any moment and you loose asssets worth billions.

The world has changed, Somalia is considered a Frontier market, where yes, the risks are high, but the profits will be higher then any other country in Africa as we literally need to rebuild everything.

What keeps those prospective investors away, is the daunting thought of corruption and lack of information/access to the important ministers.
Look at South Sudan, they've received BILLIONS in investments over the past few years, because they knew how to make it easy for investors.

That's the key, making it EASY for prospective investors. No one is going to invest in Somalia if on top of the insecurity, you have to go through lower ministry employees and admin staff, corrupution, confusing etc. There's NO dedicated number for investors to contact the government, and most of the embassies don't even exist (such as UK,) and of those that exist, they don't promote investments at all. Aynte is the UK ambassador, yet he's too busy flying to America to do pointless interviews instead mingling and networking in the UK, even IF there's no embassy yet, attracting investors from the financial capital of the world should be the priority.

PM Khayre should follow the example of the Republic of Sudan when it comes to advertizing investments.

Look how easy they made it. They wrote the project, the needed investment even down to a decimal point, and A DIRECT NUMBER for serious investors. You can call that number right now and invest. That's not possible with the current Somali administration, no matter what you're offering.
PM Khayre should set up a small team of 1-2 people, to handle all proposals and phone calls in order to sift through possible proposals.
This doesn't even require much, just one email account that the team can share and monitor together, and pass the relevant info to Khayre under the penalty of corruption charges.

This Sudanese website is basic as they come, but they will create jobs because investors don't have to find a civilian to partner with. Each ministry has a dedicated number (which is monitored by the government.)


http://www.sudaninvest.org/English/Projects-Agric.htm


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Wadi El-Khoy Project for Animal Production

Name of Project:

Goat and Camel Husbandry

Location:

Northern state, Wadi El-Khoy (Dongola Province)

Background note of the Project:



Area:

Proposed area 250 thousand feddan of arable land and free of restrictions.

Irrigation:

The proposed area will be irrigated with a network of flood irrigation and to dig surface wells to provide water for man an animals.

Soil :

The project is located in a level surface plain and the soil is composed of Nilotic sedimentaries.

Nature of Project:

A new project, which obtained the approval of the competent authorities.

Project Objectives :

1- Parent production

• Male export (sheep – billy goats camels).
• Sale of improved surplus females to the local market.

2- Provision of work opportunities and settlement for the inhabitants of the state and the incoming nomads.

3- Support of the economies of the state and provision of hard currency from the export and provision of animals for the needs of the state.

Contact Address:

Investment Department,

Northern State

Tel : 0247823994
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[oday1kenobi]

If we attract large investments, then that's not a problem. They can do the jobs that don't require any skill sets 10-15 years into the future, and we can focus on developing a core base of technically skilled labor force that can drive industrialization, which is essential if we are to survive as a nation. Steel, manufacturing, construction, agriculture etc. These industries will add untold value to our yearly GDP.

Yeah, it's better to first get the youth jobs (who make up the vast majority of the population as typical in developing nations) regardless of skill so that they can feed themselves and their families. In the meantime, technical institutions should be launched to train up the population in necessary skills that are required for a country that's emerging from decades of war.

With all that said, the sole inhibitor of growth throughout the Somali horn is the cost of electricity since much of the network is powered by inefficient diesel generators. Typical costs per unit ranges from 80¢-$1.


As always, great insight OP

 

[Ras]

Ethiopia has a website listing available investment opportunities.

How hard can it be to do the same for Somalia even if they are mostly just ideas. At least it would get some calls in and conversations started.

 

[Cadmus]

Tell them brother!

Why doesn't he invite investment to the country?

Because the Republic is in ruins and the rule of law is absent and no company will risk million dollar investments with the unstable situation and even more importantly the lack of basic guarantees under the law. In Somalia sadly, the sword is mightier then the pen and add to that clan-relations and as such, the best thing that the Prime Minister can do is to restore the rule of law and minimize the instability and that alone is a great challenge.

26 year of destruction can't be undone in 4 years and incremental stability is better than short-lived investments.

Somalia is an attractive place to invest. Don't believe the negative hype, the place has immense potential, you would know if you went there. Investment will smooth clan relations, as everyone essentially just want a normal life where they can earn a living. Investments are the BIGGEST stabilizer geopolitically. Investment's make the local communities take an active part in helping the government to safeguard their lively hoods.

The examples are too numerous. From the Marshall plan in the EU just after WW2, where the US funded ALL the infrastructure projects and spurred massive job creation that are lasting till this day. This has prevented wars in the continent ever since. To South Sudan who laid their arms immediately and stabilized the country. South Sudan eventually succumbed to the ministers and president literally looting everything and anything related to oil revenues, and as we can see, now there's chaos due to courrption. They would've been a rising star in Africa if they prioritized practicing good governance which PM Khayre and President Farmaajo already put in place.

People don't realize, just how much those two have improved the country corruption wise. It's impressive and should be respected.

 

[Cadmus]

The only reason is he took the position of bigger clan while he is from minor one.

The guy is a performer and he has brought the work ethics and system of the Scandinavians with him. Runtii he is better positioned politically than even farmaajo in the future!

They have a good combo, President Farmaajo as the warrior President who macro manages, and PM Khayre who micro manages by using his technical expertise. Their approach is scientific and methodological. It's a perfect working relation that will benefit all of us for decades to come in I'A.

 

[Cadmus]

Should make it so that passports, birth certificates, or citizenship ID, health cards and Tax file number are required for a job. that way invaders will just leave on their own.

Fantastic idea!

The countries with the highest living standards all do this, Scandinavia, Singapore, Luxembourg, Switzerland (who's model we're following) etc.

 

[Canuck]

That would be even worse than HSM, as Shariff brought blackwater, a company connected to child trafficking rings as seen in Iraq.

They raped the little boys in front of their families which lead to joining the Iraq to ISIS. Black water should not come to Somalia and sharif sakin must leave Somalia or face arresting for signing with this company.

 

[Cadmus]

Huge profits trump's instability.

There a dozen virgin industries in Somalia where new billionaires are waiting to be created.

If the government was genuine (and not the life sucking parasites they are in every state) and supported companies through rule of law; anyone smart enough will rush to invest.

Businesses don't even need tax exemptions as the profits in an unsaturated market will make up for it.

Risks such as bombings and sabotage could be reduced through insurance and a stronger private security market.

Give a competent security entrepreneur a couple million and a license to carry out security services and they'll have a huge chunk of Mogadishu safer than anywhere in Africa.

Couldn't agree more. You're absolutely right, a rush of investment also increase security as taxes and fees + the company's private security virtually guarantee a peaceful neighborhood.

 

[Xooshdheere]

Farmaajo won't be impeached.

Seems like the US administration under Trump doesnt tolerate or mince words to those disrupting the Farmaajo government.

This was by the US ambassador to Somalia & directed at those Mp's threatening motions against Farmaajo/Kheyre government.

 

[Cadmus]

They raped the little boys in front of their families which lead to joining the Iraq to ISIS. Black water should not come to Somalia and sharif sakin must leave Somalia or face arresting for signing with this company.

They did a lot more than just that unfortunately, Abu Ghraib anyone...

Shariff is undermining the government immensely, as Erik Prince is a card carrying KKK member, I wrote all of this in a previous thread about the SW-Erik Prince deal.

Erik Prince specializes in "transnational air logistics" and was heavily involved the Abu Ghraib abuse of minors. Inanimate goods aren't the only thing they allegedly transport, unfortunately. This deal is a direct threat against Somali sovereignty and the current administration.

The way to mitigate against this would've been to never allow Lower Shabelle to become a part of SW. It should have been a part of a larger Benadir state, in order to safe guard the minorities there. I still have hopes that it'll be formed soon.

Anyways, let's focus on the investment side of things here, as that's positive and can solve 99% of all Somali problems.

 

[Cadmus]

Incrementalism will keep us in the same position for the next 8 years.

There needs to be a big push towards stopping the chaos and the only thing that can do that is the government owning the biggest stick.

Since the international community won't help us in this regard we can only do this ourselves but the government is broke.

So the only solution is to quickly create corporate and contract laws and run investment initiatives asap to get some revenue in.

Playing politics with fake statesmen will just get us going round in a circle... exactly how our rivals want us.

We've been in a limbo for over a decade and I don't think it's a coincidence.

A top global consultancy could help draw up the laws we need to kick-start investments for just a few millions and within 6 months.

Absolutely! Incrementalism is the kiss of the death for nations that are trying to recover from chaos. There has to be a HUGE investment gesture, to shut everyone up, from domestic opponents to foreign invaders who are profiting from the death of our people. A huge investment can kick out Amisom by next year, so that should be the collective focus of our people.

Exactly, we can rely on cadanka any longer, look at Boris Johnson refusing to lift the embargo, because they benefit from our misery.

We have to do for self, by self brother.

The investment laws could be done in under 3 months, but the problem is the "local business stakeholders" who need to be consulted on everything.

This is where cajones are need to say "screw them, let's make a law that works for everyone without any input from monopolies."

 

[Cadmus]

Private security functions in where there is already some sort of stability with functioning government and security apparatus.

Private security will not be effective in Somalia and a good example is look at Afghanistan and Iraq very similar to. Somalia and private security has failed even after billions of invest in decades

That's because private security in those places, are contracted by the penta.gon and the ci.a, such as Erik prince and blackwater.

It's a little unknown secret, private security companies are used by the west to hide the real troops fighting for America etc and to avoid the geneva convention, so Obama said "We're bringing all our troops home from Afghanistan," but then he simultaneously increased the PMC's tenfold.

And yes, they don't actually have an interest in stabilizing anything, their objective is ONLY to secure the interest of those paying the bills.

 

[Cadmus]

Yeah, it's better to first get the youth jobs (who make up the vast majority of the population as typical in developing nations) regardless of skill so that they can feed themselves and their families. In the meantime, technical institutions should be launched to train up the population in necessary skills that are required for a country that's emerging from decades of war.

With all that said, the sole inhibitor of growth throughout the Somali horn is the cost of electricity since much of the network is powered by inefficient diesel generators. Typical costs per unit ranges from 80¢-$1.


As always, great insight OP

Thank you brother.

Back in the days of the Siad government, all males did military service, which taught technical skills in manufacturing to those interested.

Technical colleges were closely linked to military service. That's the real secret of how we became so powerful. Discipline and healthy habits first through military service, then technical training so they could contribute to the economy. that solved security, unemployment, built up the nations available forex reserves while creating the 2nd most powerful army in Africa.

All this is possible with one large investment.

 

[Ras]

Absolutely! Incrementalism is the kiss of the death for nations that are trying to recover from chaos. There has to be a HUGE investment gesture, to shut everyone up, from domestic opponents to foreign invaders who are profiting from the death of our people. A huge investment can kick out Amisom by next year, so that should be the collective focus of our people.

Exactly, we can rely on cadanka any longer, look at Boris Johnson refusing to lift the embargo, because they benefit from our misery.

We have to do for self, by self brother.

The investment laws could be done in under 3 months, but the problem is the "local business stakeholders" who need to be consulted on everything.

This is where cajones are need to say "screw them, let's make a law that works for everyone without any input from monopolies."

If those "local business stakeholders" in charge of Xamar don't play ball then Farmaajo & Khayre should create an industrial zone 20 mins from Xamar.


If those clan elders and sabatoers have power within the city then take away their leverage and put loyal people in control of the new region.

No clan controlled blocks in the industrial zone with villas packed with weapons and Al Shabaab stopovers.

Khayre can make up his own security rules there without consulting anyone; leaving him free to make it much safer.

If they had a decent intelligence apparatus then they could even prevent those guys from setting up shop in the zone through "limiting" permits.

50km^2 next to the coastline is large enough to bring in a billion in just land sales and small enough to get developed within 2 years.

 

[Cadmus]

If those "local business stakeholders" in charge of Xamar don't play ball then Farmaajo & Khayre should create an industrial zone 20 mins from Xamar.


If those clan elders and sabatoers have power within the city then take away their leverage and put loyal people in control of the new region.

No clan controlled blocks in the industrial zone with villas packed with weapons and Al shab

Exactly brother. Every country's in the process of creating industrial zones because industrialization is vital + it's too much of a hassle to build in already populated places. Even Djibouti and SL are currently building or planning to build FTZ's. This is the way to for FGS, as there's already a lot of skilled and unskilled labor force available inside and outside the country. All should be Somali of course.

 

[Bahal]

They just need to find $$$ for a big ass any that fucks up shit stirrers. This democracy shit is a joke, a few dozen corrupt traitors would rather focus on crippling the government through meaningless motions than getting anything done. Kill them all

 

[YoungFarah]

What has he done? I am not expecting a lot in the seven months they're in power, but at least come up with a one year plan and communicate your plans with the people. That way we can determine whether their goals have been met or not.

I'm not an expert in Somali politics and I think that the reason many people dislike him is because there are more qualified people who would do a better job I suppose.

 

[Cadmus]

If those "local business stakeholders" in charge of Xamar don't play ball then Farmaajo & Khayre should create an industrial zone 20 mins from Xamar.


If those clan elders and sabatoers have power within the city then take away their leverage and put loyal people in control of the new region.

No clan controlled blocks in the industrial zone with villas packed with weapons and Al Shabaab stopovers.

Khayre can make up his own security rules there without consulting anyone; leaving him free to make it much safer.

If they had a decent intelligence apparatus then they could even prevent those guys from setting up shop in the zone through "limiting" permits.

50km^2 next to the coastline is large enough to bring in a billion in just land sales and small enough to get developed within 2 years.

There should be a complete and total shutdown of all land sales to foreigners. This is because land sales often entitle foreigners to residency and rights that they shouldn't have in the first place. Land should be owned by the state and provided for the purposes of investment over certain periods, such as 99 year lease for foreigners.

Only Somali investors should be able to purchase land, otherwise you get situations like in Somaliland, where the crown prince of kuwait built a $3 million mansion with a HUGE land area that cannot ever be inspected by the government. I heard some nasty, nasty stories about that compound, don't know if it's true or not though so I won't mention it.

What is a fact on the other hand, is the kuwaiti's can claim all the oil "under" that land, just like Bancroft International did with the land that contains uranium deposits outside of Xamar..

If we bring in investments that can generate sufficient revenue for the government, then we don't have to sell valuable land to anyone.

We have to start thinking for the long term.

 

[Cadmus]

They just need to find $$$ for a big ass any that fucks up shit stirrers. This democracy shit is a joke, a few dozen corrupt traitors would rather focus on crippling the government through meaningless motions than getting anything done. Kill them all

Take it easy bruh,

President Farmaajo and PM Khayre are draining the swamp faster then ever before, they're achieving some great result on the ground. Now they just need to bring in large investments to create jobs. That's the best way they can repay the faith bestowed upon them by the entire nation where ever we are in the world. Action's speak louder than words. There shouldn't be any focus on ports though, not yet. Airports are more vital. Also, ports only create a ridiculously small amount of jobs. A port only creates what, a few hundred jobs at most? (worst case scenario in SL though the as the Berbera staff got sacked, just like the xamar staff got sacked when the Turks took over, so that's that.

The same $400 million invested in construction or agriculture would create directly and indirectly +20.0000 jobs for young people. It would boost the economy immediately if done on a large enough scale, because that figure would be added to the economic data that investors look at to evaluate potential investment destinations.

 

[Cadmus]

I'm not an expert in Somali politics and I think that the reason many people dislike him is because there are more qualified people who would do a better job I suppose.

Believe it or not, PM Khayre is one of the most qualified people for the job, he just needs to focus on investments.