It may be a little shared but 90%+ of the land is majority Isaaq sxb.You do know that Hawd & Reserve is a shared land and not limited to Isaaqs?
Oromo State annexes Somali lands.
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GaradShabeel
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Bro, you need to brush up on your DDS geographic knowledge.
Does the map below look like 90%+ belong to Isaaq?
I've heard people and maps say different things in terms of where Hawd is located. Does this add the reserve area? Maybe.Bro, you need to brush up on your DDS geographic knowledge.
Does the map below look like 90%+ belong to Isaaq?
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Quickly drew this line, this is 80-90% of the total land and most are Isaaq.
Jaarso waa tolkay, and i don't think they ever called upon us. They live in the North with us and Isaaqs. We even inaugurated the Caaqil that represents them in Hargeisa.Brother, there's a mutual benefit in being neutral with regards each other's conflicts. What would Samaroon even benefit from picking any side in a conflict that doesn't concern or affect you guys and your land? The war in Somalia have shown that it's best to leave it as it is. In any case, both our clans have a great understanding amongst ourselves, so there's nothing you have to worry about.
I don't think I'll see a day when Samaroons pick Jaarso over Geri. Maybe my own bias through my relatives are shadowing my viewpoints, kkk
But any expansions will not happen on Ardul Somali. We're heading westwards and trying to recoup land from pseudo-Oromos. We'll give ultimatums to the Oromo-larping Somalis; either return back to your roots or we're coming for you
Anyway, that's like asking what do other Daroods benefit from siding with Geri. We know of the Ogaden involvement in your conflicts with Jaarso.
I don't disagree with our neutral stance between y'all, but don't step on our toes.
GaradShabeel
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Hawd constituted from the borders with Mudug all the way to Dire Dawa. And a significant part of Geri land were part of Hawd (historically). Today it mostly refers to the land your people inhabit.
Do you want me to take you serious with your sketch? kkk You've included land from your neighbouring clans
GaradShabeel
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Jaarso waa tolkay, and i don't think they ever called upon us. They live in the North with us and Isaaqs. We even inaugurated the Caaqil that represent them in Hargeisa.
Anyway, that's like asking what do other Daroods benefit from siding with Geri. We know of the Ogaden Liyu involvement in your conflicts with Jaarso.
I don't disagree with our neutral stance between y'all, but don't step on our toes.
What did you write OG Liyu (which was not an OG clan militia, it was controlled by the Somali regional gov't and therefore inaccurate as you're trying to portray, that OG as a clan got involved in our conflict on our behalf) and not Oromo Liyu as if they did not participate in the conflicts. Especially around 2017-2019.
The conflicts have mostly been between the two local clans, but when one regional forces got involved, so did the other. Let's not do historical revisionism sxb
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Bro, you need to brush up on your DDS geographic knowledge.
Does the map below look like 90%+ belong to Isaaq?
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Fugazi map. Gadabursi and some HA are not apart of the Hawd and reserve area. This is a more accurate map.
GaradShabeel
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I thought that GB land and a significant part of eastern/north-eastern Faafan were historically part of what was considered Hawd and Reserve area?
Nah, our land was historically coined Harawa Valley. That particular map is a revisionist one to replicate it with the clans in the North. Why do you think it says "scheduled lands". It is land that whoever made it wishes it to be added to the secessionist state.I thought that GB land and a significant part of Faafan were historically part of what was considered Hawd and Reserve area?
Mostly composed of them and I edited. Don't you think OG and other Daroods did not go there to take part though. It's more than likely. Hiil Darood is a thing after all with MJ who went to Geri's aid back in the day.What did you write OG Liyu (which was not an OG clan militia, it was controlled by the Somali regional gov't and therefore inaccurate as you're trying to portray of OG involvement in our conflict) and not Oromo Liyu as if they did not participate in the conflicts. Especially around 2017-2020.
The conflicts have mostly been between the local clans, but when one regional forces got involved, so did the other. Let's not do historical revisionism sxb
GaradShabeel
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Mostly composed of them and I edited. Don't you think OG and other Daroods did not go there to take part though. It's more than likely. Hiil Darood is a thing after all with MJ who went to Geri's aid back in the day.
But it's still Liyuu (controlled by the reg'l gov't) and not OG as a clan. Where are the other Darood that came from other places to take part in our fightings? It never happened. So, there's no 'likely'. Bro, you're either sure or you need to clarify that you're making an assumption.
Yeah, MJ did aid us during the war with Menelik/Abyssinia before the fall of Emirate of Harar in the late 1800s, but what's the connection here? Obviously, do they stand with us, but there're not fighting with us on the ground.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the only 'outsiders' that have been in picture in the Geri - Jaarso conflicts are state forces on both side. No other (Somali) clans are there, to your dismay
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They went to go live with the oromo hundreds of years ago no different than us in the west, you chose to a them to your home in 2023. Also bale was adal lands so oromo came and captured all the Somalis there.I assumed you were one of the level headed Absame on here.
We've never been called Qooti. And it is your clan that has been assimilated into Arsi sub of Rayitu. There's literally a user on here who's Rayitu, but is actually assimilated OG. @ahus21024 Hadaan qooti nahay adiguna qooti baa tahay.
Make sure you keep it clean between you two then.But it's still Liyuu (controlled by the reg'l gov't) and not OG as a clan. Where are the other Darood that came from other places to take part in our fightings? It never happened. So, there's no 'likely'. Bro, you're either sure or you need to clarify that you're making an assumption.
Yeah, MJ did aid us during the war with Menelik, which led to the fall of Emirate of Harar against abyssinia in the late 1800s, but what's the connection here? Obviously, do they stand with us, but there're not fighting with us on the ground.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the only 'outsiders' that have been in picture in the Geri - Jaarso conflicts have been state forces on both side. No other (Somali) clans are there, to your dismay
And who was it that called upon their state forces first?
Btw, i've been hearing a lot Daroods making noise that they will send aid to Geri after the war in Sool due to Jaarso vocalising their support for Somaliland.
We have Southern Dirs and even Dir subs that live with Darood saying they will fight for Somaliland, but nothing happened buuq is buuq.Make sure you keep it clean between you two then.
And who was it that called upon their state forces first?
Btw, i've been hearing a lot Daroods making noise that they will send aid to Geri after the war in Sool due to Jaarso vocalising their support for Somaliland.
I encourage Harti to send aid to their Geri twins, Harti and Geri share a more direct bond than Jaarso and Samaroon.
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In the west you are still a Somalian, the assimilation process is not the same.
And what do you mean brought them home?
GaradShabeel
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Make sure you keep it clean between you two then.
There won't be more fightings. Talks are currently ongoing, which hopefully will solve the political issues. All previous attempts have broken down, but this time it seems to be heading somewhat in the right direction now. But it's still early on in the process to say if it will succeed.
No one called up on the state forces (Liyuu). It was during the time when the country descended into chaos around 2016-2017 that they got involved when our conflict got ugly. But their presence exacerbated the relations with the two clans. Prior to the conflict, Jaarso seemingly were not on good terms with the then-reg'l gov't which started tensions. They had their own share of problems with Abdi Iley's administration, and then spilled over into a bigger Geri-Jarso conflict.
Their are just vocalizing their support on the internet, just like Isaaqs and some Dirs are doing for Jaarso.
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War sxb you guys are entertaining about joining an oromo entity so you might as well change your names now and erase all somali identification because oromo will discriminate you if they see any somali remnants in you. Just ask the babile Somalis and even the recent jaarso how they have been overlooked on certain posts becsuse l of their somali connection.
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AY was used by Zenawi to appoint his tplf agent Gheedi, even the parliament chair fight in Kenya was Qanyares side fighting the Tplf coalition
Vocalisation can turn into reality. After all some Geri are fighting in Sool.
Geri are natives to soil though what you on about.
