Oromos marching towards Addis.

[Prince Abubu]

Your people have been conquered since amda seyon, some 600 years ago. Nothing will ever change, so might as well accept it before we take the rest.

Conquered by who? Amxaaras today are still quaking at the name of my glorious ancestor Axmed Gurey (May Allah be pleased with him). You've never won anything. Everything you stole was with the help and support of European soldiers and weapons. Your so called country is a patchwork of land stolen by the xabashis and held together by AID money and western complicity.

There is no such thing as Addis, thief. Finfinne belongs to Oromo, Jigjiga and Dirirdhabe belong to Somalis and Awassa the Sidama. Every major and historical city in Ethiopia, from Lalibela to Harar belongs to other people. Stop claiming them and go back to your caves in Yemen.

 

[embarassing]

sigh...i was talking about literal first cousins that are blood related to me. I put that in there because the only place i have interacted with Somalis from Somalia is on this website...so my assessment still stand. I have interacted with Ethiopian Somalis and they don't all share the popular beliefs on this site. I am sure there are those who do. I had positive experience with Somalis all my life and until i came to this site i did not know y'all hated us this much.

Lol, okay. There is no point in differentiating b/w the two, not sure you even know what region the posters you engage with are from. My grandma is originally from K5 and fled to Somalia proper and lived there most of her adult life, she hates even hearing Ethiopia mentioned and uses amhara as an insult. Its nothing personal and it shouldn't come as a surprise to you given the history.
Im glad you've only had positive experiences with Somalis irl. I don't believe people should treat regular ethiopians badly bc of what the government has and continues to do unless and until they express support for it.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

The Reer Afgab Cawlayahan are the largest individual clan no one is denying that but to argue that Dolo Bay Town is Ogaden displays your ignorance. It is also called Welediya and it is strictly Faqi Maxamed Surre. Their land start from parts of Luuq district (Bohol Garas and Qooney) and extends towards Dolo Bay Woreda. We have always held the reigns of power in that Woreda, the minority clans that live there are Garimari and Beydisle. As you move up river, we connect with the Daweed Gaadsan who live West of the River in Jarrati/Weyb Woreda. The Gaadsan then connect with the Gurre, and as the land gets hillier you are in Ceel Kari Gariire territory. The borders between these clans and the Cawlayahan is clearly demarcated. There is a continuous land bridge between all the Southern K5 Dirs, and no Cawlayahan live in between them.

Imey Galbeed has now been split. Parts of it have become the Sheekhal Raaso Woreda. Do your research before uttering Sheit. We ain't talking about Burtinle here Saxib.

Cawlyahan live right up to the town of Dolo Bay. Dolo Bay woreda is incredibly tiny because the land inhabited by Dir there is also very small.

You also lied about Dir having land west of the river adjacent to the Reer Afgaab. The people who live west of the Weyib from a little north of Dolo Bay to somewhere near Jarati are the Degodiye. Even Jarati town itself is inhabited by Reer Afgaab on the east of the Weyib.

 

[Lilafrombole]

Lol, okay. There is no point in differentiating b/w the two, not sure you even know what region the posters you engage with are from. My grandma is originally from K5 and fled to Somalia proper and lived there most of her adult life, she hates even hearing Ethiopia mentioned and uses amhara as an insult. Its nothing personal and it shouldn't come as a surprise to you given the history.
Im glad you've only had positive experiences with Somalis irl. I don't believe people should treat regular ethiopians badly bc of what the government has and continues to do unless and until they express support for it.

This was what i was trying to say. I have seen time and time again people planning the downfall of my country on this site, so me say those people don't have the best interest at heart should not be conversational. I don't have to know what region they are from, i take them at their word (Ethiopian or Somali) and don't take it personally. I was just speaking form personal experience so I thought that deserved my specificity.

 

[Mohsin]

ALxamdu Lilaah Guulaysta Oromo

 

[Bahal]

Siad Barre was born in "Ethiopia"



Africa's artificial nations is one of the major reasons the continent is fucked.

 

[Lilafrombole]

All I'm saying is that I want the country to stay how it is culturally, that's it. I don't hate oromos as a people, but they are expansionists no denying it. I for one do not want that to occur, that is all. How do you reconcile with them claiming Addis even though they do not even make up 10% of the city? My views are not politically correct, but they are mine. You also make it seem like I like Somalis lol?

Nobody has ever accused you of being politically correct lol.

They should be the first to be expelled once the country is back on the right track.

i am done for the day.

 

[Menelik III]

What we see is the conquered or colonized mentality on the site

Lol, okay. There is no point in differentiating b/w the two, not sure you even know what region the posters you engage with are from. My grandma is originally from K5 and fled to Somalia proper and lived there most of her adult life, she hates even hearing Ethiopia mentioned and uses amhara as an insult. Its nothing personal and it shouldn't come as a surprise to you given the history.
Im glad you've only had positive experiences with Somalis irl. I don't believe people should treat regular ethiopians badly bc of what the government has and continues to do unless and until they express support for it.

There is a difference between Somalis, so you can stop lying to yourself everyday. If there wasn't then why would the Somali region expand into Somalia and somalialnd, why would they abuse different clans, why are your people still killing each other like animals?

The reason why we don't hate your people is because we are the colonizer. No reason to fret over some people who don't impact us.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

sigh...i was talking about literal first cousins that are blood related to me. I put that in there because the only place i have interacted with Somalis from Somalia is on this website...so my assessment still stand. I have interacted with Ethiopian Somalis and they don't all share the popular beliefs on this site. I am sure there are those who do. I had positive experience with Somalis all my life and until i came to this site i did not know y'all hated us this much.

I am from the most easternmost woreda claimed by Ethiopia, it is called Bokh. A quarter or a third of everyone on here is from land claimed by Ethiopia. I am pro Abyssinia, basically for all Amhara and Tigary to be sent back to Gondar and Mekelle. Ethiopia is a prison of nations and a relic of late 19th century imperialism.

The collapse of your country would be a boon for people like me who would like to join their land to Somalia. No Somali can be an Ethiopian, it is an oxymoron.

 

[embarassing]

This was what i was trying to say. I have seen time and time again people planning the downfall of my country on this site, so me say those people don't have the best interest at heart should not be conversational. I don't have to know what region they are from, i take them at their word (Ethiopian or Somali) and don't take it personally. I was just speaking form personal experience so I thought that deserved my specificity.

Thats because your country is occupying large swathes of Somali land and has had a history of genocide and war crimes against them.

What we see is the conquered or colonized mentality on the site

There is a difference between Somalis, so you can stop lying to yourself everyday. If there wasn't then why would the Somali region expand into Somalia and somalialnd, why would they abuse different clans, why are your people still killing each other like animals?

The reason why we don't hate your people is because we are the colonizer. No reason to fret over some people who don't impact us.

Try reading a few times so you can grasp whats being said next time. All Somalis regardless of region or clan generally hate and mistrust ethiopia and ethiopians. I was speaking on something specific, what you're talking about is beside the point.

Lol and if you don't fret over us why are you on a Somali forum crying everyday

 

[Menelik III]

Thats because your country is occupying large swathes of Somali land and has had a history of genocide and war crimes against them.

Try reading a few times so you can grasp whats being said next time. All Somalis regardless of region or clan generally hate and mistrust ethiopia and ethiopians. I was speaking on something specific, what you're talking about is beside the point.

Lol and if you don't fret over us why are you on a Somali forum crying everyday

Joined for the history section, but stayed for these topics.

I am from the most easternmost woreda claimed by Ethiopia, it is called Bokh. A quarter or a third of everyone on here is from land claimed by Ethiopia. I am pro Abyssinia, basically for all Amhara and Tigary to be sent back to Gondar and Mekelle. Ethiopia is a prison of nations and a relic of late 19th century imperialism.

The collapse of your country would be a boon for people like me who would like to join their land to Somalia. No Somali can be an Ethiopian, it is an oxymoron.

Every African country was formed through imperialism. Why should we be any different? For people who claim to have conquered so much land should accept what had happened.

 

[anonimo]

Cawlyahan live right up to the town of Dolo Bay. Dolo Bay woreda is incredibly tiny because the land inhabited by Dir there is also very small.

You also lied about Dir having land west of the river adjacent to the Reer Afgaab. The people who live west of the Weyib from a little north of Dolo Bay to somewhere near Jarati are the Degodiye. Even Jarati town itself is inhabited by Reer Afgaab on the east of the Weyib.

Do you know how long ago that was? Nigga you do not have an idea how the borders of Southern K5 and Gedo have changed since then? Degoodi do not live in Afdher Zone anymore, its a Dir iyo Darood Zone.

The Degoodi moved further South and do not border the Cawlayahan anymore. The Daweed Gaadsan, Surre, Garrimari are now the buffer between the OG and Degoodi in Southern K5. After the Sayyid wars, most of the Hiiraan Surres moved South to Luuq District and Dolo Bay. The same Surres that went back to Hiiraan to help regain control of the Kabxanley and Deefow area. Saxib, the woredas are basically clan enclaves. My relatives live in Welediya/Dolo Bay Woreda and you are trying to use an outdated map as evidence. Even in Dolo Oddo, there is even a Surre presence in Kolo town; the proper Degoodi deegans start once you cross the Kolo bridge and exit the Surre farmland of Kolo. I know my shit cos this is my neck of the woods Nigga.

Jarrati/Weyb Woreda is divided by the Genale River. As you can see on that map West of the River was Degoodi, not today though! The Daweed Gaadsan settle West of the River as exemplified by the fact that Jarati became a war zone when the Daweed and Afgab fell out and the main town was abandoned. Each clan stayed on their side of the river

The destructed houses in Chereti town during the clan war between Dawed and Afgab was rehabilitated completely.

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/eue_web/Borena94.htm

Wallahi ask any knowledgeable and reasonable Ogaden such as BestPlaya on Somnet and they will confirm what I have just told you. From Bohol Garas in Luuq District to the lush Ceel Kari mountains, the Southern K5 Dir clans are undivided.

 

[Bahal]

Joined for the history section, but stayed for these topics.

Every African country was formed through imperialism. Why should we be any different? For people who claim to have conquered so much land should accept what had happened.

You should focus on the Oromos and Amharas coming for your people in the near future.

 

[ManlikeYJ]

Joined for the history section, but stayed for these topics.

Every African country was formed through imperialism. Why should we be any different? For people who claim to have conquered so much land should accept what had happened.

Stfu u . Ur end is near. Er are Coming 4 u. U and amxaar Will be chopper to pieces and fed to Th dogs. And oromo Will be brought to Their rightful place, The plantation fields with the bantus.

 

[Marsin]

Cayda iyo aflagaadada inaga ilaliya, rag waaweyn baanu nahay ileen

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@embarassing did you know that the Somali party is excluded from EPRDF? They did not even include Somalis who are the 3rd largest ethnic group in the power structure at all. The Tigray have 38 seats in parliament to the Somali's 24 when Somalis are clearly larger.

Do you know how long ago that was? Nigga you do not have an idea how the borders of Southern K5 and Gedo have changed since then? Degoodi do not live in Afdher Zone anymore, its a Dir iyo Darood Zone.

The Degoodi moved further South and do not border the Cawlayahan anymore. The Daweed Gaadsan, Surre, Garrimari are now the buffer between the OG and Degoodi in Southern K5. After the Sayyid wars, most of the Hiiraan Surres moved South to Luuq District and Dolo Bay. The same Surres that went back to Hiiraan to help regain control of the Kabxanley and Deefow area. Saxib, the woredas are basically clan enclaves. My relatives live in Welediya/Dolo Bay Woreda and you are trying to use an outdated map as evidence. Even in Dolo Oddo, there is even a Surre presence in Kolo town; the proper Degoodi deegans start once you cross the Kolo bridge and exit the Surre farmland of Kolo. I know my shit cos this is my neck of the woods Nigga.

Jarrati/Weyb Woreda is divided by the Genale River. As you can see on that map West of the River was Degoodi, not today though! The Daweed Gaadsan settle West of the River as exemplified by the fact that Jarati became a war zone when the Daweed and Afgab fell out and the main town was abandoned. Each clan stayed on their side of the river



http://www.africa.upenn.edu/eue_web/Borena94.htm

Wallahi ask any knowledgeable and reasonable Ogaden such as BestPlaya on Somnet and they will confirm what I have just told you. From Bohol Garas in Luuq District to the lush Ceel Kari mountains, the Southern K5 Dir clans are undivided.

That may be the case but I have yet to see any evidence of the Degodiye having abandoned their land west of the Weyib.

Dir have no claims in Gedo. You live there under the good graces of Reer Xasan, I would urge you to not push your luck.

 

[embarassing]

@embarassing did you know that the Somali party is excluded from EPRDF? They did not even include Somalis who are the 3rd largest ethnic group in the power structure at all. The Tigray have 38 seats in parliament to the Somali's 24 when Somalis are clearly larger.





That may be the case but I have yet to see any evidence of the Degodiye having abandoned their land west of the Weyib.

Dir have no claims in Gedo. You live there under the good graces of Reer Xasan, I would urge you to not push your luck.

I didn't know that, but its not surprising either. Sad state Somalis are in.

 

[anonimo]

@embarassing did you know

That may be the case but I have yet to see any evidence of the Degodiye having abandoned their land west of the Weyib.

Dir have no claims in Gedo. You live there under the good graces of Reer Xasan, I would urge you to not push your luck.

Kulaha evidence. Do not embarrass yourself further, Degoodi live in Liben Zone, not Afdheer. Ask my Nigga Marsin. West of the River is Gaadsan, hard to swallow I see. Think of the farming potential of Southern K5. We and the OG's eating good.

As for Luuq district, Reer Xassan and us are divided by the river, they are on the Gedo side and we are on the Bay side near the border. Beeri Hore Wala Kala Baxay Saxib!

 

[Young Popeye]

@embarassing did you know that the Somali party is excluded from EPRDF? They did not even include Somalis who are the 3rd largest ethnic group in the power structure at all. The Tigray have 38 seats in parliament to the Somali's 24 when Somalis are clearly larger.





That may be the case but I have yet to see any evidence of the Degodiye having abandoned their land west of the Weyib.

Dir have no claims in Gedo. You live there under the good graces of Reer Xasan, I would urge you to not push your luck.

Afar and Harari are also excluded from eprdf but that was under the advice of the westerners. We arent ethiopians anyway we are adal so it doesnt matter. TPLF however has formed alliances with Adal they are just now in a situation where they cant pull out of their states due to the international scene. They cant declare independence as they have been commissioned to play police in the region. Ethiopia never won in ogaden they never won against imam ahmed either it was all europeans and continues to be europeans. hopefully thats clear

 

[Xaagi-Cagmadigtee]

Divisive Politics brother.

As for the Southern K5 Dirs. Two Gurre Woredas have now been added to Liben Zone politically isolating them from the Gariire Ceel Kari woreda, the Dolo Bay Surre Woreda and the partially (West Of The River) Daweed Gaadsan Jarrati Woreda. All the above clans live right next to each with no one in between them and they should push for a separate zone but where is the will? By the way, the Garre in Ethiopia are mainly Tuff, not the Quranyow Dirs of Mandhera/NFD.

The Gurgura until a year or two ago had their own exclusive woreda in the non-urban area of Dire Dawa but it was added to the city proper I think. The rest of the Gurgura live as far as Kombolcha and in the Afar Zone as well. Ruunti bro, they identify as Gurgura but they are mainly Oromo speakers and it will require a lot of consensus building to unite them with the Ciise. I will send you a journal published this year that demonstrates the scale of the task. The reason a Northern Zone straddling Shinille, parts of Faafan and the non-urban areas of Dire Dawa has not been formed yet is down to the fact there is no unity among the clans that inhabit there. Everyone looks out for their own interest instead of looking at the bigger picture.


They ain't woke yet cuz.

I would be remiss if I did not mention Somali ethos is based on divisiveness, be it politics or kinship. Honestly I no longer subscribe to Somaliweyn. I will even go a step farther and encourage Somaliland, Beesha Dheexey, to declare independence, so long as there is genuine reconciliation with other clans.

Also, days of unilateral Amhara rule are over. Tigray are on borrowed time.