Over 100 Somaliland Soldiers Defect to Puntland

[Saalax Bidaar]

Declare your defeat Mr Bidaar

Mr Douglas,

This is a fight between the two Siciids siciid Garxajis(HY) and Siciid Harti(Dhulbahante).

If you get involve and bring up Bosaaso and I bring up Berbera as my nuclear deterrent.

 

[Karim]

Mr Douglas,

This is a fight between the two Siciids siciid Garxajis(HY) and Siciid Harti(Dhulbahante).

If you get involve and bring up Bosaaso and I bring up Berbera as my nuclear deterrent.

Seems like you love picking on my young Bro
keep avoiding Mj v Garxajis dialogue

 

[Cumar]

The initial part of the war exposed the weakness of the so called army of SL (United Isaaq and Samaroon) they suffered heavy losses in the hands of Rer Hagar a sub sub sub clan of dhulbahante.

Only guys who fought Reer Hagar were Solomadow subclan of Habar Jeclo. It was grazing conflict, nothing to do with SL army and its Buhoodle campaign which was later after peace treaty between these two clans failed. The campagin began when Khatumo forces attacked SL army positions and hastily retreated to Buhoodle.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Seems like you love picking on my young Bro
keep avoiding Mj v Garxajis dialogue

It could potentially torpedo a very interesting DMs I am having. You might be looking at your future in law. No kidding

 

[The Patriot]

The only reason the SL army didn't capture Buhoodle was due to executive decision from the top military brass not to enter the town due to immense civilian hostility. It would have been PR disaster for SL so we withrdrew. The army captured every single major checkpoint and completely surrounded the town. Don't think for one second the decision to pull out was due to incompetence.

The reason you didnt capture buuhoodle is because you couldnt, you tryed and got massacred and chased out until you had to sign a peace treaty with reer buuhoodle. You guys are just making shit up to avoid your Ls. The blue flag is flying high in buuhoodle literally 3hrs from Burco and you cant do nothing about it lol

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

You can’t knock dhulbhante hustle I say sell the landers the dream of icitiraaf while they stack bundles of cash Rageedi weeye you can’t knock the hustler kkk

 

[Starscream]

What is this post suppose to proof that Siyad Baree carved a land for you in return to his loyalty?

That isn’t a revelation. Dhulos have always been loyal foot soldiers. But sad thing as soon as Barre died, you have lost 80% of the land he gave you.

Show me a land you captured that traditionally belong to us and you took?

Lol we all know Siyad Baree favored you out of Darodnimo and made you Sool.

But Hy have recovered every single Inch of land Siyad Barre Gave to Dhulos and then went out to punish Harti and took the fight to their areas.

Not once were the battles in HY territory. That is power and reach.

https://books.google.com/books?id=w...aAhUm4IMKHVXeAhYQ6AEIVjAJ#v=onepage&q&f=false

There is also an agreement between the Habr Yoonis and their southern neighbours, the Ogaden clan, which limits the construction of birkeds in the bushy haud grazing area south of Ali Jama settlement. There had been numerous conflicts between the Habr Yoonis and Isaaq over control of territory. It was subsequently agreed between the 2 clans that Danot should be the border between them and that each could construct 16 birkeds there. In the haud north of Danot to Ali Jama, controlled by the Habr Yoonis, and south of Danot, controlled by the Ogaden,controlled by the Ogaden, there should be no birkeds constructed. This was in order that there should be a buffer zone between them and also to maintain the area as a prime grazing area for camels.

Map from the same source

This was fairly recent as in late 90s/2000s

Here was the article about the recent fight between you and @shanqale peopl north of danot.

Deegaanka Baliyo Xasan oo dhanka koonfur bari kaga beegan Gaashaamo gaar ahaana degmada Danood ayaa waxaa shalay ku dagaalamay laba beelood oo wada dega deegaankaas, halkaas oo uu ka dhashay khasaare sababay dhimasho iyo dhaawac.
Waxay dhimashadu gaadhay 10 qof oo ah beelihii uu dagaalku dhex maray, kuwaas ka soo kala jeeda dhalasho ahaan. Buuhoodle(Dhulbahante) iyo gobolka Togdheer(Habaryoonis).

http://ictiraafnews.com/?p=41443

 

[Starscream]

Civilians of Buhoodle were no threat to the army, they only had small arms and technicals. The only danger was the narrative turning from SL defending its territorial integrity to being SL becoming occupying force and a result of more militant activity there. As we all know Buhoodle is on the border with Ethiopia so border security comes into play. Groups like ONLF and even ISIS could have taken advantage.

There was most likely back-channels from the west vis-a-vis Ethiopia who who probably convivnced/bribed SL to fall back to checkpoints just outside the town to quell any antistate actors taking advantage of conflict there.

This might be one of the most stupidest comments I heard
Ahmed garad has 30 artillery 7 tanks and dozen bm 21
The ssc when they were fighting in kalshaale had no heavy weapon only
Light fighting vehicles

 

[Starscream]

The only reason the SL army didn't capture Buhoodle was due to executive decision from the top military brass not to enter the town due to immense civilian hostility. It would have been PR disaster for SL so we withrdrew. The army captured every single major checkpoint and completely surrounded the town. Don't think for one second the decision to pull out was due to incompetence.

Except they entered and were pushed out by force and tried again and lost

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

https://books.google.com/books?id=w...aAhUm4IMKHVXeAhYQ6AEIVjAJ#v=onepage&q&f=false


Map from the same source

This was fairly recent as in late 90s/2000s

Here was the article about the recent fight between you and @shanqale peopl north of danot.

http://ictiraafnews.com/?p=41443

Go back to school, it clear you can’t read.

So there was a battle between Muse Carre and dhulbahabte that killed 10 people from BOTH sides and you somehow understood that as a defeat?

Secondly, HY southern borders are Ogaden and they agreed to not dig birkado and instead share the grazing lands

What is your point again?

Man you have nothing. Just complete waste of time

 

[Starscream]

The video I posted completely aligned with that.

Somaliland captures all these towns and villages that were previously held by Khatumo/SSC/ local clans.
Kalshaale
Maygaagle
Hagoogane
Sool joogto

Kashale isn't even a settlement nore does anybody live on it.
These other 3 areas are near there and was never captured in any fight

SSC came later after few months

SSC were the attacking force in all the villages named in that area
A year later in attempted to capture buhoodle and failed

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Kashale isn't even a settlement nore does anybody live on it.
These other 3 areas are near there and was never captured in any fight

SSC came later after few months
View attachment 43405
SSC were the attacking force in all the villages named in that area
A year later in attempted to capture buhoodle and failed

‍ smh you are terrible debater.
Are you gonna make me post the Videos again from those villages that were occupied by SL troops for 7 months?

I hate to do it because there women crying in it and I hate the be the asshole rubbing it in but SL did take over every single Well, town and village in en route to Buhoodle before attacking the town of Buhoodle itself. It even states in the article you posted that SL attack and occupied eastern part of town lol

 

[Starscream]

Go back to school, it clear you can’t read.

So there was a battle between Muse Carre and dhulbahabte that killed 10 people from BOTH sides and you somehow understood that as a defeat?

Secondly, HY southern borders are Ogaden and they agreed to not dig birkado and instead share the grazing lands

What is your point again?

Man you have nothing. Just complete waste of time

the agreement points out danot being part of your territory at one point.

that Danot should be the border between them and that each could construct 16 birkeds there. In the haud north of Danot to Ali Jama, controlled by the Habr Yoonis,

Look where that is in the map from the same source

Also that fight happened north of danot south of gaashamo
Can you tell me what dhulos are doing north of danot
Remember when hy use to border mj it seems like distant past now that I live 40 miles from your biggest town(gashamo) you have left

 

[Starscream]

‍ smh you are terrible debater.
Are you gonna make me post the Videos again from those villages that were occupied by SL troops for 7 months?

I hate to do it because there women crying in it and I hate the be the asshole rubbing it in but SL did take over every single Well, town and village in en route to Buhoodle before attacking the town of Buhoodle itself. It even states in the article you posted that SL attack and occupied eastern part of town lol

Why do you leave out the part where you lost
Thanks for running away from those apc we put good use to them in Ethiopia

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

the agreement points out danot being part of your territory at one point.

Look where that is in the map from the same source

Also that fight happened north of danot south of gaashamo
Can you tell me what dhulos are doing north of danot
Remember when hy use to border mj it seems like distant past now that I live 40 miles from your biggest town(gashamo) you have left

Waar heedhe Af Muslim ama Af Gaal mid aan kuugu imaado!
The article is talking about an agreement between HY and Ogaden. How exactly do Dhulos fit in? And you must be some kinda stupid to look at that little scripted and conclude anything. There is just noting there. Stop being desperate.

Also since you are from Sool and have obviously never been to the hawd, you wouldn’t understand that 80% of the population are nomadic pastoralists. There is constant movement back and forth. I use to see Ogadens, MJ’s. Camels go where there green pastures. However actual Hy degaaan haven’t changed since the days of Ina Igare and Rigaax.

Dhulos don’t even register in our radar to worry about them. The big boys the Ogaden are our rivals per your article.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Why do you leave out the part where you lost
Thanks for running away from those apc we put good use to them in Ethiopia

350 Dhulbahante died! People were away from their homes for 7 months being occupied by SL. Do you really want further suffering for your people?

I mean didn’t you see the women and children crying . Pretty gut wrenching stuff. Then again you are Wacays Adan and have hatred for your cousins in Buhoodle.

 

[Cumar]

This might be one of the most stupidest comments I heard
Ahmed garad has 30 artillery 7 tanks and dozen bm 21
The ssc when they were fighting in kalshaale had no heavy weapon only
Light fighting vehicles

I said civilians, not khaatumo militias lmao. And most of the heavy weapons they got were smuggled in from Ethiopia illegally anyways.

My comments were reply to another user who tried suggesting that SL army was repelled by civilians in buhoodle. Even the source you posted agrees with me that the SL army occupied the town.

 

[Starscream]

Waar heedhe Af Muslim ama Af Gaal mid aan kuugu imaado!
The article is talking about an agreement between HY and Ogaden. How exactly do Dhulos fit in?

And you must be some kinda stupid to look at that little scripted and conclude anything. There is just noting there. Stop being desperate.
Also since you are from Sool and have obviously never been to the hawd, you wouldn’t understand that 80% of the population are nomadic pastoralists. There is constant movement back and forth. I use to see Ogadens, MJ’s. Camels go where there green pastures. However actual Hy degaaan haven’t changed since the days of Ina Igare and Rigaax.

Dhulos don’t even register in our radar to worry about them. The big boys the Ogaden are our rivals per your article.

So we just gonna ignore the map

350 Dhulbahante died! People were away from their homes for 7 months being occupied by SL. Do you really want further suffering for your people?

I mean didn’t you see the women and children crying . Pretty gut wrenching stuff. Then again you are Wacays Adan and have hatred for your cousins in Buhoodle.

Stop it son 350 is fantasy number the un report said it was alot lower
Am not wacays aden or from hawd nore do I care about them much I always disliked them for mingling with your people

I said civilians, not khaatumo militias lmao. And most of the heavy weapons they got were smuggled in from Ethiopia illegally anyways.

My comments were reply to another user who tried suggesting that SL army was repelled by civilians in buhoodle. Even the source you posted agrees with me that the SL army occupied the town.

There's embargo on Somalia since 92 so no those weapons are part of weapons handed out by dafle

Lol reer somaliland counting half time score
Attacking the same place twice means you failed the first attack simple logic here
Reer half time
Reer half buhoodle
Reer we attacked twice and failed again

 

[Mr.Haggis]

Days of somaliland are numbered libaaxi Morgan in power 2019 Insha Allah.