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The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
You're entitled to your opinion.

Of course everyone is free to believe what they want, however, I would like you to step back for one second and ask yourself, why am I a Muslim? Did I choose this religion or did I accept it because of my Muslim heritage? If I was born into a Christian family, would I honestly be holding these views?

The thing about truth is that it's neutral like Switzerland. It never picks sides.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
When I was a kid, I imagined the entire world was someone's dollhouse, that we were all living in a giant, animate dollhouse. I imagined leaving my doll body to drift outside the dimension, to be on the outside looking in.

Might of partly lifted it from a cartoon, or from the way we manipulate our toys as kids. Also, I had a dollhouse.

I used to imagine God has a middle eastern doll maker who created people in his garage. He had switches for every single human being that makes them do what he wants them to do.

I was...very imaginative as a child.
 

VixR

Veritas
I used to imagine God has a middle eastern doll maker who created people in his garage. He had switches for every single human being that makes them do what he wants them to do.

I was...very imaginative as a child.
Wow, a doll maker too:patrice:

I don't remember having a perception of the dollhouse operator.
 
The world revolves around me. I am in the matrix and you guys are all just sims in my matrix. :icon mrgreen:

*Everyone had this thought. :icon lol:

Solipsism! It's an actual philosophical theory

It's based around the idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. Solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and others mind cannot be known and might not exist outside of the mind.
 
Of course everyone is free to believe what they want, however, I would like you to step back for one second and ask yourself, why am I a Muslim? Did I choose this religion or did I accept it because of my Muslim heritage? If I was born into a Christian family, would I honestly be holding these views?

The thing about truth is that it's neutral like Switzerland. It never picks sides.
I have stepped back and have asked myself such questions. In fact, it is within the scope of Islam to ponder about your existence. To question your existence, your purpose, why we do what we do, our choices. Islam is not about blind faith, but rather to look around your surroundings, to look within yourself and realize...yes, indeed I am nothing, compare to the complexity and vastness of these universe, which in itself is nothing, compare to other creations, such as the Angels, Hell, Heaven, etc. You see, there is absolutely no other way of life, way of thinking in terms of religion (Atheism is in itself a belief, thus it is a religion) that makes sense, other than ISLAM.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
I have stepped back and have asked myself such questions. In fact, it is within the scope of Islam to ponder about your existence. To question your existence, your purpose, why we do what we do, our choices. Islam is not about blind faith, but rather to look around your surroundings, to look within yourself and realize...yes, indeed I am nothing, compare to the complexity and vastness of these universe, which in itself is nothing, compare to other creations, such as the Angels, Hell, Heaven, etc. You see, there is absolutely no other way of life, way of thinking in terms of religion (Atheism is in itself a belief, thus it is a religion) that makes sense, other than ISLAM.

Let's cut the crap and be honest. The only reason why you're a Muslim is because you grew up in a Muslim family. You didn't go out of your way to discover the truth, you were taught that you already have it. Islam. You may not want to admit it but if you was born a Christian you'd probably be screaming "Jesus is the saviour!" Now, you might of researched into Islam which then further solidified your faith but the problem is, you already had a biased perspective that you were indoctrinated into.

Again, let's cut the crap. You are the product of a process which took over 3 billion years to create you. You are but one species of the countless on our planet and most serve more purpose on this planet then you. How could you honestly look up at the universe with its vastness and come to the conclusion that YOU are the pinnacle of that vastness. The centre. That's a textbook display of human arrogance. You are from a tiny planet from a tiny solar system located on the edge of the Galaxy. Our star is but 1 of hundreds of Billions in our Galaxy. Our solar system is but 1 of hundreds of billions in our Galaxy. Our Galaxy is but 1 out of trillions. Just for one second ponder on you insignificance. This universe isn't a test for you. If we were to be destroyed, the universe would tremble.

The fact that you called atheism a religion shows you lack any understanding of atheism. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any deity. You religious folk need to stop imposing your narrow view of the world on us.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
Solipsism! It's an actual philosophical theory

It's based around the idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. Solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and others mind cannot be known and might not exist outside of the mind.

I used to imagine that of myself. It was just an imagination but it was entertaining. My mind was the only one which was real and everybody else's was fake.
 
Let's cut the crap and be honest. The only reason why you're a Muslim is because you grew up in a Muslim family. You didn't go out of your way to discover the truth, you were taught that you already have it. Islam. You may not want to admit it but if you was born a Christian you'd probably be screaming "Jesus is the saviour!" Now, you might of researched into Islam which then further solidified your faith but the problem is, you already had a biased perspective that you were indoctrinated into.

Again, let's cut the crap. You are the product of a process which took over 3 billion years to create you. You are but one species of the countless on our planet and most serve more purpose on this planet then you. How could you honestly look up at the universe with its vastness and come to the conclusion that YOU are the pinnacle of that vastness. The centre. That's a textbook display of human arrogance. You are from a tiny planet from a tiny solar system located on the edge of the Galaxy. Our star is but 1 of hundreds of Billions in our Galaxy. Our solar system is but 1 of hundreds of billions in our Galaxy. Our Galaxy is but 1 out of trillions. Just for one second ponder on you insignificance. This universe isn't a test for you. If we were to be destroyed, the universe would tremble.

The fact that you called atheism a religion shows you lack any understanding of atheism. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any deity. You religious folk need to stop imposing your narrow view of the world on us.
You're making assumption based on generalization. You don't know me. You know about me only that which I tell you. Either accept it or reject it. It's entirely up to you. That's for your first two sentences of your post.

Skip to the last two sentences of your post regarding Atheism. Atheism is the belief that there is no Creator. An Atheist has no proof of the absence of a Creator, it is merely putting his faith on his belief that there is no Creator. That in itself is a religion. A Theist is the belief that there is a Creator. It's is the opposite of an Atheist. Get it now?

"Stop imposing your narrow view of the world on us". Who's us? :lol: Clearly, you're subconsciously lumping all Atheist together as one, as though it's a cult or better yet, a religion. There is nothing wrong with that, just accept it. Your religion is Atheism. I don't know why you're acting like each Atheist has it's own form of way of thinking.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
You're making assumption based on generalization. You don't know me. You know about me only that which I tell you. Either accept it or reject it. It's entirely up to you. That's for your first two sentences of your post.

Skip to the last two sentences of your post regarding Atheism. Atheism is the belief that there is no Creator. An Atheist has no proof of the absence of a Creator, it is merely putting his faith on his belief that there is no Creator. That in itself is a religion. A Theist is the belief that there is a Creator. It's is the opposite of an Atheist. Get it now?

"Stop imposing your narrow view of the world on us". Who's us? :lol: Clearly, you're subconsciously lumping all Atheist together as one, as though it's a cult or better yet, a religion. There is nothing wrong with that, just accept it. Your religion is Atheism. I don't know why you're acting like each Atheist has it's own form of way of thinking.

It's not an assumptions if it's actually based on reality. I'm using deductive reasoning. Which religion you follow depends mostly on where you live and who you're born to. You were born a Muslim therefore, you're were inevitably going to be a Muslim. It's not rocket science. If you were born to a Christian family you'd be a Christian. That's how the world is set up.

As for atheism, the definition of religion is below:
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Whilst the definition of atheism is:
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Do you see any similarities?
 
Atheism is a religion that believes there is no God/Creator. Theists is an umbrella that encompasses all religions that believe in a single God/Creator. You can disagree as I too can disagree with your "deductive reasoning". lol
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
Atheism is a religion that believes there is no God/Creator. Theists is an umbrella that encompasses all religions that believe in a single God/Creator. You can disagree as I too can disagree with your "deductive reasoning". lol

The deductive reasoning I did was aimed at the manner in which you obtained your faith. Please read my post properly.

Plus, I gave you the definitions of both atheism and religion which clearly makes a distinction between the two but you refuse and make up your own? That's intellectual dishonesty.
 
The deductive reasoning I did was aimed at the manner in which you obtained your faith. Please read my post properly.

Plus, I gave you the definitions of both atheism and religion which clearly makes a distinction between the two but you refuse and make up your own? That's intellectual dishonesty.
Intellectual dishonesty is when one clearly defies another's statement, by simply rejecting the said person's statement and injecting his own "generalization" into the equation. Am I a Muslim because my parents were a Muslim? YES. Did I questioned why I am a Muslim and not another religion? YES. Did I make the choice to maintain my Islamic faith as an adult? YES. Have I read about Atheism, Agnostic-based beliefs, and every religion that ends with an "-ism"? Certainly. I have come to the conclusion that I was and I am blessed to have been born a Muslim and to have been able to make the rational decision to maintain my Islamic belief.

Atheism, to have the belief that there is no Creator in itself is a religion that has no proof to support it's belief. I choose to believe there is a Creator and you choose to believe there is no Creator. It's that simple.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
Intellectual dishonesty is when one clearly defies another's statement, by simply rejecting the said person's statement and injecting his own "generalization" into the equation. Am I a Muslim because my parents were a Muslim? YES. Did I questioned why I am a Muslim and not another religion? YES. Did I make the choice to maintain my Islamic faith as an adult? YES. Have I read about Atheism, Agnostic-based beliefs, and every religion that ends with an "-ism"? Certainly. I have come to the conclusion that I was and I am blessed to have been born a Muslim and to have been able to make the rational decision to maintain my Islamic belief.

Atheism, to have the belief that there is no Creator in itself is a religion that has no proof to support it's belief. I choose to believe there is a Creator and you choose to believe there is no Creator. It's that simple.

I'm sorry but you're redefining the definition of religion which is:
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Atheism is a mere lack of belief and as shown above, inaccurate to label it as a religion.
 

The_Cosmos

Pepe Trump
Intellectual dishonesty is when one clearly defies another's statement, by simply rejecting the said person's statement and injecting his own "generalization" into the equation. Am I a Muslim because my parents were a Muslim? YES. Did I questioned why I am a Muslim and not another religion? YES. Did I make the choice to maintain my Islamic faith as an adult? YES. Have I read about Atheism, Agnostic-based beliefs, and every religion that ends with an "-ism"? Certainly. I have come to the conclusion that I was and I am blessed to have been born a Muslim and to have been able to make the rational decision to maintain my Islamic belief.

Atheism, to have the belief that there is no Creator in itself is a religion that has no proof to support it's belief. I choose to believe there is a Creator and you choose to believe there is no Creator. It's that simple.

Also, you've confirmed the "generalisation" that I've made by conceding to the fact that you're a Muslim because of your parents.
 
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