Partition of the Somali Peninsula

[DalsanJubiland]

Wishful
Jubaland only people who have settlements are
Kumade
MX
Harti /Cawarmale
Galjecel, sherkaal
Wardey, Biyaaal/dir
Jarer weyn
Bajuun
DM
That is it,[/QUOTE]

 

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Sxb its facts the sub clan of xawaadle cabdi yusuf and adan warsame do reside in Juba dhexe and gedo doolow luuq etc

Sxb don't compare the level of diversity in jubbaland and hiiraan

Don't mention HSM to me

Hiiraan diversity xawaadle(majority), gaaljecel, beesha gugundhabe, reer aw hassan, j1reerweyne

Jubbaland diversity ogaden, MX, munshunguli, raxaweyne, gaaljecel, shiekhaal, bajuni, cawrtamle, j1reerweyne, xawaadle, dir, ajuran, harti, garre, degodi, HG there's more

My point still stands sxb jubbaland should be shared amongst all reer koonfur tribes

and yet only your areas get shared. This is my first time talking to a Xawaadle tell me what is it like being a sheegad clan in 2020

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Partition, Balkanization

Beautiful words

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Colonial Powers created regions according to geography, Afwayne created regions to fit a clan agenda. This is common knowledge.
Upper Jubba use to compose Bay, Bakool, Gedo and Jubbada Dhexe. If a government in 1969 can create regions then a government in 2020 can also do that. You still haven't shown me these MPs sxb.

The source that you keep plastering is a study article from 1999, hardly a primary source. There are telegrams of the Mad Mullahs son stating his ppl are suffering slavery in Somaliland under Isaaq and i'm not paraphrasing

But since you keep posting that source, it agrees with what i have been saying - you are only a majority in south of the river in the area called TransJubba aka Colonial Jubbaland which bordered NFP and Tanaland. Raxanweyn is a majority north of the river and HAg clans can be found on both sides.

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If Mudug can be split in two then there is no correct model. Anyone in Power can make changes as they see fit. Marka to Goobweyn is a HG sphere of influence and we are here to collect our dues

sxb no regions will be split and no changing pre 1991 borders otherwise every tom and farax will be creating mamuls, sorry this is why Galnus is galnus, no change on the pre 1991 borders otherwise hoto will be creating 5 new mamul regions

hawiye first president created mamauls, siad barre added them, both changed maps, you had yuor chance, thus we stick to what we have

also we must use the 1960 -1991 MP lists, in fact lets stick to the MPs between 1960-1967 sicne a hawiye lead the country as president, in that case there is no single MP for galjecel fake 1991 hawiye card carrying clan which you do not carry about or RX or any other hawiye clan that had MPs in kismayo or middle juba or lower juba or gedo, they just did not have the numbers and trust me there was more democracy under adan cade leadership than siad barre, so explain that

neither did hawiye MPs exist in todays South West gobals, HG invaded shabelle regions in the 90s and will be kicked out by the natives eley and biomal

so not complain about sida barre, because i took can complain how adan cade created the degmos and MP constituencies, even using that Jubaland was 85% Absame dominated in terms of MPs

 

[Cuneo]

And representation in The Districts of Laasasuraad of Sanaag and representation in Jubada Hoose

Stop claiming Lasa Surad! Gahayle do not live there today and before the 80’s they were guests in our house just like Damal Muse of eastern Garhajis were guests in Mudug after they migrated to this territory after a blood feud!

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Stop claiming Lasa Surad! Gahayle do not live there today and before the 80’s they were guests in our house just like Damal Muse of eastern Garhajis were guests in Mudug after they migrated to this territory after a blood feud!

Not true
Fact is fact
That is home base of their Suldaan

 

[Struggle]

also we must use the 1960 -1991 MP lists, in fact lets stick to the MPs between 1960-1967 sicne a hawiye lead the country as president, in that case there is no single MP for galjecel fake 1991 hawiye card carrying clan which you do not carry about or RX or any other hawiye clan that had MPs in kismayo or middle juba or lower juba or gedo, they just did not have the numbers and trust me there was more democracy under adan cade leadership than siad barre, so explain that

Gaaljecel did have mps and even a minister in the civilian government Abdirahman Haji Mumin being one of them. He later became the somali minister of justice and was also the defense minister @Gabz19988

Here is him welcoming the Sudanese minister of defence in 1967

https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/418849

neither did hawiye MPs exist in todays South West gobals, HG invaded shabelle regions in the 90s and will be kicked out by the natives eley and biomal

HG alone represented Merka THREE TIMES forget about the rest of the hawiyes kkk

 

[BirtaanJabin]

Stop claiming Lasa Surad! Gahayle do not live there today and before the 80’s they were guests in our house just like Damal Muse of eastern Garhajis were guests in Mudug after they migrated to this territory after a blood feud!

LaasaSuraad was is and will always be deegaan Gahayle

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Gaaljecel did have mps and even a minister in the civilian government Abdirahman Haji Mumin being one of them. He later became the somali minister of justice and was also the defense minister @Gabz19988
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Here is him welcoming the Sudanese minister of defence in 1967

https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/418849

HG alone represented Merka THREE TIMES forget about the rest of the hawiyes kkk

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sure galjecel had an MP but not from Jubaland. From hiraan and hg Did not get votes from hg tribes people but came in through party lines just the waY MJ represented berbera hiraan and even in bay and bakool Does that make MJ natives of these lands because they had an MP ? No. In fact many used bribes to be the only one standing to get the Kursi

so differentiate between native voters and party members who were sent where to stand

there was no HG native in the shabelle lower region till 1990s

 

[Kulmiye]

sure galjecel had an MP but not from Jubaland. From hiraan and hg Did not get votes from hg tribes people but came in through party lines just the waY MJ represented berbera hiraan and even in bay and bakool Does that make MJ natives of these lands because they had an MP ? No. In fact many used bribes to be the only one standing to get the Kursi

so differentiate between native voters and party members who were sent where to stand

there was no HG native in the shabelle lower region till 1990s

You sound retarded, when there is a member of your clan as an mp it represents the population and the will of the ppl but when its others its "bribes and partilines".

Mr "phD" sheekadaan futadaade u'sheeg! You havent brought any evidence to your claim that there was no Gaaljecel mp from JL. Only retarded rants and fake bravado.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

You sound retarded, when there is a member of your clan as an mp it represents the population and the will of the ppl but when its others its "bribes and partilines".

Mr "phD" sheekadaan futadaade u'sheeg! You havent brought any evidence to your claim that there was no Gaaljecel mp from JL. Only retarded rants and fake bravado.

There was no Galjecel mp in JL.Because Galjecel were never.stand alone clan from 1960 to 1991 in Juboyinka.
MJ brought them in large numbers in the 60s also to garner votes..

They were under Ogaden or Harti.

Just like Galjecel in NFD who are under Ogaden.

 

[Kulmiye]

There was no Galjecel mp in JL.Because Galjecel were never.stand alone clan from 1960 to 1991.

They were under Ogaden or Harti.

Just like Galjecel in NFD who are under Ogaden.

Still zero evidence from your part.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Still zero evidence from your part.

You need to bring the evidence.

There hasn't been any Galjecel MP in Juboyinka especially Kismaayo which was hotly contested between Absame and Harti.Do you think Harti would favour a Galejecel candidate when they wanted to win in Ogaden majority constituents in Kismaayo back in the 60s.

The constituencies in Juboyinka are fixed and we know who used to be elected especially in Kismaayo district.

No Galjecel.ever made it as Mp in Kismaayo,maybe the leader of the porters in Kismaayo port.

 

[DalsanJubiland]

There was no Galjecel mp in JL.Because Galjecel were never.stand alone clan from 1960 to 1991 in Juboyinka.
MJ brought them in large numbers in the 60s also to garner votes..

They were under Ogaden or Harti.

Just like Galjecel in NFD who are under Ogaden.

Spot on, Galjecel is new come to Jubaland,
They crossed river and they from Walaweyn .

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Spot on, Galjecel is new come to Jubaland,
They crossed river and they from Walaweyn .

The Galjecel came in 3 waves in juboyinka.
One in the 1900s brought to look after Absame and Harti livestock in Juboyinka.

Second in the 1960s to boost MJ population in Kismaayo for votes.

Third is in the 1990s when the charcoal business spiked.

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Galjecel are not city people, they don’t built towns They are nomad with few camels, their number is very small.Even now in Walaweyn, recently they were kicked out , by shanta calemood in Walaweyn. Because they don’t have anything in the town, they are all nomad.
How can you be elected if you don’t have town or city population?
Galjecel don’t have district to be elected from. They don’t live in a city.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Galjecel are not city people, they don’t built towns They are nomad with few camels, their number is very small.Even now in Walaweyn, recently they were kicked out , by shanta calemood in Walaweyn. Because they don’t have anything in the town, they are all nomad.
How can you be elected if you don’t have town or city population?
Galjecel don’t have district to be elected from. They don’t live in a city.

Galjecel are not bad people apart from being anti environmental friendly.
The HG want to use them as a political card to get back their marijuana farms in Jilib and Jamaame.

 

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Still zero evidence from your part.

Evidence for what because there are quite possibly over 100 Jubbaland threads and in the majority of them there is ample evidence of who got the land and who inhabits it today.

Anyways I wont argue with you about that if whatever clan you are is majority tell them to try something

 

[Kulmiye]

Nacasyaal if you are claiming there is no Gaaljecel mp then you should bring the evidence. I havent made any claim just not convinced by your diarrhea no matter how many times you repeat it. The fact you havent brought anything substantial to back your scurrilous claims against beesha Gaaljecel tells me that this is just your typical "døøro bah dil/af lagaado" stories.

Galjecel are not city people, they don’t built towns They are nomad with few camels, their number is very small.Even now in Walaweyn, recently they were kicked out , by shanta calemood in Walaweyn. Because they don’t have anything in the town, they are all nomad.
How can you be elected if you don’t have town or city population?
Galjecel don’t have district to be elected from. They don’t live in a city.

This is rich coming from an Ogaadeen the most nomadic Somali tribe.

 

[Mckenzie]

You need to bring the evidence.

There hasn't been any Galjecel MP in Juboyinka especially Kismaayo which was hotly contested between Absame and Harti.Do you think Harti would favour a Galejecel candidate when they wanted to win in Ogaden majority constituents in Kismaayo back in the 60s.

The constituencies in Juboyinka are fixed and we know who used to be elected especially in Kismaayo district.

No Galjecel.ever made it as Mp in Kismaayo,maybe the leader of the porters in Kismaayo port.

Lol Ina Shaacir is an MP in Kismayo today

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His Father was also an MP in Kismayo