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[Daadhi Tarree]

Lmao egypt sending a few light arms is no way comparable to having 20,000 foreign soldiers supporting you

Help is help and wdym you I’m not habesh

 

[GALAN]

your crazy man just because your samaale that doesn't mean your hawiye why can't u,@Step a side and @killerxsmoke get through your thick skulls and i just said my origin was ashraf when have i brought them up before this thread

@niggaibnh ashraf is a oromo clan called sheriffa who claim to originate from the Banu Hashim and are scattered amongst the oromo.

they dont have land amongst the oromo however, and are basically like the sheekhal.

 

[GALAN]

Aujraan are Hawiye.

no there not? after the 19th century a lot of clans were added to the HAWIYE everyone in this forum knows that. the Ajuran only recently became Hawiye bro.

 

[Aseer]

Help is help and wdym you I’m not habesh

Way less than the aid you guys got.

 

[niggaibnh]

@niggaibnh ashraf is a oromo clan called sheriffa who claim to originate from the Banu Hashim and are scattered amongst the oromo.

they dont have land amongst the oromo however, and are basically like the sheekhal.

Wallahi if I show this to my friend he would be laughing his head off

There is only one ashraaf clan in the Horn of Africa and they live all around in the Somalia regions (main area is barawa). They ain’t like others who speak barawni language for example
They speak Somali and would probably slap if you claim them

 

[Step a side]

no there not? after the 19th century a lot of clans were added to the HAWIYE everyone in this forum knows that. the Ajuran only recently became Hawiye bro.

There are old Latin documents that show that Ajuuraan are Hawiye. We have discussed this thoroughly on this forum on many different threads

 

[GALAN]

what name?

Wallahi if I show this to my friend he would be laughing his head off

There is only one ashraaf clan in the Horn of Africa and they live all around in the Somalia regions (main area is barawa). They ain’t like others who speak barawni language for example
They speak Somali and would probably slap if you claim them

no there is ashraf even as far as Mali.

 

[GALAN]

There are old Latin documents that show that Ajuuraan are Hawiye. We have discussed this thoroughly on this forum on many different threads

bro the Ajuran are not Hawiye every non hawiye knows you guys just want to claim.

Ajuran are there own clan, and when they were destroyed by the Abgaal became HAWIYE, and some even oromo.

 

[Step a side]

bro the Ajuran are not Hawiye every non hawiye knows you guys just want to claim.

Ajuran are there own clan, and when they were destroyed by the Abgaal became HAWIYE, and some even oromo.

General Liiqliiqato in his book "Taariikhda Punt" confirms Ajuran is paternally Hawiye. The claim that Ajuran is a Samaale tribe outside Irir is not even historically claimed. Thats likely a new fallacy from the last 20 years or so that i only really seen on FB. If they were Samaale, how comes its Xamare one day, Maqare another day then Gardheere on the third kkkkk. You can find a new abtirsi being given for each different Samaale floating online somewhere. Only their Hawiye Jambele abtirsi is consistent with historical references. Some Ajurans did claim to be Quraysh Arabs after their empire broke when some Italians like Cerulli asked them and that's about as accurate as Sheikhal Hirab being Arab. Just an urban myth that isn't any different to Hawiye themselves who claim Quraysh. All these claims circle back and around each other but the empire was literally called HAWIYE in Latin during the middle ages. If Ajuran was ruling multiple clans like RX, 0.5 and small Samaale subs, then there is no reason they would call their empire Hawiye. Historical writers literally state the empire was a dynasty of Allied Hawiye clans.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

no there is ashraf even as far as Mali.

Asharaf are everywhere even in Hindustan

 

[Somalihero]

Ashraf? What ashraf you mean sheikh hussein of bale?

According to SAINTS AND SOMALIS: Popular Islam in a Clan-Based Society, by I. M. Lewis Sheikh Hussien Baalle was a Somali, born in Merca city near Mogadishu, then immigarated to Baali region in Oromia where he established the Islamic centers .

 

[GALAN]

According to SAINTS AND SOMALIS: Popular Islam in a Clan-Based Society, by I. M. Lewis Sheikh Hussien Baalle was a Somali, born in Merca city near Mogadishu, then immigarated to Baali region in Oromia where he established the Islamic centers .

studies differentiate. he could have been a somali who knows, even according to Oromo Bali he was a oromo.


however we know that he teached islam to the Panigal Oromo (Oromo of Bali).

 

[GALAN]

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General Liiqliiqato in his book "Taariikhda Punt" confirms Ajuran is paternally Hawiye. The claim that Ajuran is a Samaale tribe outside Irir is not even historically claimed. Thats likely a new fallacy from the last 20 years or so that i only really seen on FB. If they were Samaale, how comes its Xamare one day, Maqare another day then Gardheere on the third kkkkk. You can find a new abtirsi being given for each different Samaale floating online somewhere. Only their Hawiye Jambele abtirsi is consistent with historical references. Some Ajurans did claim to be Quraysh Arabs after their empire broke when some Italians like Cerulli asked them and that's about as accurate as Sheikhal Hirab being Arab. Just an urban myth that isn't any different to Hawiye themselves who claim Quraysh. All these claims circle back and around each other but the empire was literally called HAWIYE in Latin during the middle ages. If Ajuran was ruling multiple clans like RX, 0.5 and small Samaale subs, then there is no reason they would call their empire Hawiye. Historical writers literally state the empire was a dynasty of Allied Hawiye clans.

bro what.


Ajuran sultanate was dominated by the Maay? correct. literally there major cities like Afgoye which was there largest city, after the capital Merca situated in Biimal land.

this is crazy to me that Hawiye are now claiming Ajuran soon they will claim Degoodi when they are oromo themselves.

 

[Step a side]

bro what.


Ajuran sultanate was dominated by the Maay? correct. literally there major cities like Afgoye which was there largest city, after the capital Merca situated in Biimal land.

this is crazy to me that Hawiye are now claiming Ajuran soon they will claim Degoodi when they are oromo themselves.

Kkkkk you hoteps contradict yourselves and go against the grain of your own narrative just to try prove someone wrong. Unprincipled delinquent. So now Ajuran capital is Merca? Same capital Arabs said was the capital of Hawiye country in the 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th century? I thought you guys teamed up with Benadiris to deny their presence on the coast? The Taariikh Al Punt was written by Sheikhal Major General and Assembly Speaker of Siad Barre. They did not speak Maay either. This is not disputed so you making things up out of thin air. Dagoodi are pure Somali, what you are saying is like saying the Borana tribe of Oromia are Somali.

 

[Khaem]

bro what.


Ajuran sultanate was dominated by the Maay? correct. literally there major cities like Afgoye which was there largest city, after the capital Merca situated in Biimal land.

this is crazy to me that Hawiye are now claiming Ajuran soon they will claim Degoodi when they are oromo themselves.

Ajuuran was literally a bunch of hawiye clans united under ajuran. How this forum has gone so down bad that we even have to argue over the most quintessential medieval Somali state now is crazy.

We literally cannot have a thread on history without the usual suspects going to war against the Somali. Everything from Mogadishu to Zelia to Adal to Ajuuran to ahmad gurey to even the idea of somalis being an ethnicity. Walahi it's crazy.

 

[GALAN]

Kkkkk you hoteps contradict yourselves and go against the grain of your own narrative just to try prove someone wrong. Unprincipled delinquent. So now Ajuran capital is Merca? Same capital Arabs said was the capital of Hawiye country in the 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th century? I thought you guys teamed up with Benadiris to deny their presence on the coast? The Taariikh Al Punt was written by Sheikhal Major General and Assembly Speaker of Siad Barre. They did not speak Maay either. This is not disputed so you making things up out of thin air. Dagoodi are pure Somali, what you are saying is like saying the Borana tribe of Oromia are Somali.

okay whatever makes you happy.