people from somali galbeed. soo gala.

[waraabe]

seriously bro tell me which region?? Don't tell me Hawd because All the biggest towns on that region are exclusively Ogaden with Wardheer being the only one that's a little diverse and has Majeerten Dhulbahante Mareexan etc

Hawd won't go anywhere. you can have the small border districts join your disneyland like Gashaamo but that's it

Is it possible that you are an idiot? You said you don't know any isaaq places and you name one? Stop looking for arguments sxb. isaaq regions will join their people in Somaliland, those dir will join their people in Djibouti and darod will join their people in somalia. No need to argue

 

[Freebandz]

 

[BebsiBolice]

Independence would be stupid considering that they are landlocked. They should separate and join Somalia. This won't happen now, Somalia has to actually stabilize. Until Somalia is a stable democratic nation I don't see Ogadenia breaking away.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

That map tells you all you need to know about who owns hawd. Hawd is a Darood stronghold. Welwel is the heart of hawd and during xagaa you can find Geri, Leelkase, MJ, OG, Marehan, and Dhulbahante at 1 ceel. Isaaq live in the part of hawd where there is no permanent water. They go back to Burco for water and thus cannot have anything other than camels in hawd due to the long journey back to permanent water. This is why you will find Dhulbahante and OG grazing north of Gashaamo during the dry season while the Isaaq are in Burco or Oodweyne. When they return in the rainy season there is grass but almost no leaves "dhir" for the camels
It is this constant back and forth over the past decades that has created so much animosity. Hawd is permanently settled by Darood but only intermittently by Isaaq due to the lack of water for up to 5 months.

 

[RoyalSomali]

That map tells you all you need to know about who owns hawd. Hawd is a Darood stronghold. Welwel is the heart of hawd and during xagaa you can find Geri, Leelkase, MJ, OG, Marehan, and Dhulbahante at 1 ceel. Isaaq live in the part of hawd where there is no permanent water. They go back to Burco for water and thus cannot have anything other than camels in hawd due to the long journey back to permanent water. This is why you will find Dhulbahante and OG grazing north of Gashaamo during the dry season while the Isaaq are in Burco or Oodweyne. When they return in the rainy season there is grass but almost no leaves "dhir" for the camels
It is this constant back and forth over the past decades that has created so much animosity. Hawd is permanently settled by Darood but only intermittently by Isaaq due to the lack of water for up to 5 months.

Is dulbahante your abtiyaal

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Is dulbahante your abtiyaal

No, but my subclan borders Dhulbahante Reer Oodeed in Hawd. We share Cagaare which is the best camel grazing land in Hawd.

 

[waraabe]

That map tells you all you need to know about who owns hawd. Hawd is a Darood stronghold. Welwel is the heart of hawd and during xagaa you can find Geri, Leelkase, MJ, OG, Marehan, and Dhulbahante at 1 ceel. Isaaq live in the part of hawd where there is no permanent water. They go back to Burco for water and thus cannot have anything other than camels in hawd due to the long journey back to permanent water. This is why you will find Dhulbahante and OG grazing north of Gashaamo during the dry season while the Isaaq are in Burco or Oodweyne. When they return in the rainy season there is grass but almost no leaves "dhir" for the camels
It is this constant back and forth over the past decades that has created so much animosity. Hawd is permanently settled by Darood but only intermittently by Isaaq due to the lack of water for up to 5 months.

Your lands are your lands and our lands are our lands. It doesn't matter if we settle on them permanently or only one day of the year, still our lands.

 

[RoyalSomali]

No, but my subclan borders Dhulbahante Reer Oodeed in Hawd. We share Cagaare which is the best camel grazing land in Hawd.

You know so much about us

 

[dr-yalaxoow]

Soomali galbeed is part of Somalia.. we will never allow somali galbeed not to be part of Somali republc... we sacrificed thousends of soomali bloood to take back soomali galbeed therefore Somali galbeed will be natural part of Somalia..

 

[legend]

Soomali galbeed is part of Somalia.. we will never allow somali galbeed not to be part of Somali republc... we sacrificed thousends of soomali bloood to take back soomali galbeed therefore Somali galbeed will be natural part of Somalia..

Are you on some sort of drugs?

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Your lands are your lands and our lands are our lands. It doesn't matter if we settle on them permanently or only one day of the year, still our lands.

There is no actual "border" in Hawd, if it rains somewhere everyone moves there. The only border is what area each clan can build birkeds or sink wells. Hopefully as Darood continue to expand in Hawd the land left by Isaaq will be divided fairly. There may be no Isaaq in hawd during xagaa in 20 years. The border towns will become the clan border. Hawd for your people will mean southern Togdheer if things continue as they are.

 

[waraabe]

There is no actual "border" in Hawd, if it rains somewhere everyone moves there. The only border is what area each clan can build birkeds or sink wells. Hopefully as Darood continue to expand in Hawd the land left by Isaaq will be divided fairly. There may be no Isaaq in hawd during xagaa in 20 years. The border towns will become the clan border. Hawd for your people will mean southern Togdheer if things continue as they are.

Isaaq only gain land not lose it sxb. We haven't lost an inch of our land while you guys lost so much

 

[dr-yalaxoow]

i think those who call somali galbeed a qabiil name(ogaadeen(ya) those are on drugs not me.. somali galbeed is a soomaali peoples land.. every qabiiillives there and if ethiopia collapses then Somali galbeed should and must be part of Somalia...

 

[Mckenzie]

There is HG in the Hawd too

 

[Rooble]

There is HG in the Hawd too

the Hawd too[/QUpinpint[/QUOTE]
Pintpoint locations

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Isaaq only gain land not lose it sxb. We haven't lost an inch of our land while you guys lost so much

Isaaq lost the land between Danood and Boodadheere to Dhulbahante. And the north of Aware to Reer Isaaq. This is since 2000.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

There is HG in the Hawd too

Dhusomareeb is not hawd.

 

[somebody]

That's what I am talking about. Many people are going to claim a piece in that land. There will be a war over these lands. Every Somali country will get involved in it. Maybe Djibouti too.

 

[Mckenzie]

the Hawd too[/QUpinpint

Pintpoint locations[/QUOTE]

Areas in Feerfeer, Mustaxiil, Shilaabo and we graze our camels in Wardheer

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Pintpoint locations

Areas in Feerfeer, Mustaxiil, Shilaabo and we graze our camels in Wardheer[/QUOTE]

What woreda in Wardheer? the only two that border Somalia are Bokh which is mainly MJ with Dhulbahante in the west and Galadi mainly MJ and Marehan south. So tell me, what kebele in what woreda does Hg inhabit in Wardheer?