Philosophical conclusion of Atheism

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God is not real:
Therefore there is no objective morality​
Therefore good and evil is subjective​
Your moral judgements carry no weight​
The universe is controlled by pre-determined blind forces.​
Therefore your brain is simply chemicals interacting with each other in a predetermined manner​
Therefore Free-Will is an illusion.​

If you are an Atheist and you want to be morally consistent you will have to accept these claims.

Everything else can be a cope to deal with these harsh truths but it is the foundation of your worldview.

All we are machines who are on predetermined routes everything you do and will do can be traced back to the big bang.

Even you being ex-Muslim wasn’t your choice you were always going to be ex-Muslim. Every rational argument that you think you made were simply upon the chances that were made 13.8 Billion years ago.

Every time something evil has happened and the person dies before they can get any sort of retribution they got away with it. There is no karma. Every rich CEO thats polluting the planet he will be long dead before he gets to see any of the consequences he will get off scott free.

Every victim of rape that wasn’t taken seriously their rapist got away with it.

All the “Evils” that mankind did there will be no judge for retribution after their death.

Every war criminal and person who took part in destroying Somalia if they never had any justice in life got away with it. Every AS member who blows himself in a crowded place killing dozen innocent people has gotten away with it.

You continue to act altruistic simply because it was evolutionary convenient that sentient creatures form social structures to survive and all sources of morality can be linked back to evolutionary purposes. You don’t think murder is bad because it’s bad? Your genetics made you think that way. As apes who killed each other couldn’t form social groups and got out competed. Anything that cant be explained via evolution is simply a societal quirk which you have been indoctrinated with such as equality, personal freedoms and justice. These don’t exist in reality and are simple social construct that we made to feel good about ourselves.(Even there i pre suppose the idea that “we made it” we didn’t do anything but observe our flesh machines do it. Every argument for the abolitionist movement was upon chances that were made long ago.)

You are as justified about your feminist, anti-racist, egalitarian views as the Nazis were about theirs. Your morals are just as subjective as theirs and what made you have your opinions is simply when and where you was born. Had you been born in nazi germany you would advocate for extermination of the jews and lesser races as much as you advocate for personal freedoms and equality today.

Everything about you, your taste and preferences can be explained via genetic and environmental factors.

Many studies concluded that twins who live completely different lives often share the same interests even the ones split at birth. Adopted children still share stronger traits to their biological parents than their Adopted parents.

At conception your life was already chosen for you. Your risk to taking drugs, chances of your criminality, education level and chances you meet a significant other. You were never consulted about any of the choices and it certainly wasn’t done by a personal all loving god.

This thread is not intended for me making an argument for god but telling you the philosophical conclusion of Atheism.

So are you willing to accept these terms?
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Im sorry i had a philosophy sperg moment because of an account @Qeelbax showed me and i had to vent because it’s one of my interests.

Obviously as a muslim i don’t believe some of the stuff said about but i am speaking from an atheist perspective on if they want to stay consistent they will have to agree with what stated above.
 

attash

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It is worth noting that many atheists do claim to accept that free will isn't real and there is no objective morality. Yet paradoxically, they will still expect humans to behave in moral and rational ways.

Here is a funny example:

 

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It is worth noting that many atheists do claim to accept that free will isn't real and there is no objective morality. Yet paradoxically, they will still expect humans to behave in moral and rational ways.

Here is a funny example:

It’s impossible for a person to operate on this philosophy. They can say they believe it but the way they speak and act is like one where there is free will and morality in some sense is objective.

Thats why I believe the only consistent atheist is a Sociopath. Also to say there is no free-will is akin to denying the existence of the self which is contradictory as who is the self that is denying the self but the self.

 

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God is not real:
Therefore there is no objective morality​
Therefore good and evil is subjective​
Your moral judgements carry no weight​
The universe is controlled by pre-determined blind forces.
Therefore your brain is simply chemicals interacting with each other in a predetermined manner​
Therefore Free-Will is an illusion.​

If you are an Atheist and you want to be morally consistent you will have to accept these claims.

Everything else can be a cope to deal with these harsh truths but it is the foundation of your worldview.

All we are machines who are on predetermined routes everything you do and will do can be traced back to the big bang.

Even you being ex-Muslim wasn’t your choice you were always going to be ex-Muslim. Every rational argument that you think you made were simply upon the chances that were made 13.8 Billion years ago.

Every time something evil has happened and the person dies before they can get any sort of retribution they got away with it. There is no karma. Every rich CEO thats polluting the planet he will be long dead before he gets to see any of the consequences he will get off scott free.

Every victim of rape that wasn’t taken seriously their rapist got away with it.

All the “Evils” that mankind did there will be no judge for retribution after their death.

Every war criminal and person who took part in destroying Somalia if they never had any justice in life got away with it. Every AS member who blows himself in a crowded place killing dozen innocent people has gotten away with it.

You continue to act altruistic simply because it was evolutionary convenient that sentient creatures form social structures to survive and all sources of morality can be linked back to evolutionary purposes. You don’t think murder is bad because it’s bad? Your genetics made you think that way. As apes who killed each other couldn’t form social groups and got out competed. Anything that cant be explained via evolution is simply a societal quirk which you have been indoctrinated with such as equality, personal freedoms and justice. These don’t exist in reality and are simple social construct that we made to feel good about ourselves.(Even there i pre suppose the idea that “we made it” we didn’t do anything but observe our flesh machines do it. Every argument for the abolitionist movement was upon chances that were made long ago.)

You are as justified about your feminist, anti-racist, egalitarian views as the Nazis were about theirs. Your morals are just as subjective as theirs and what made you have your opinions is simply when and where you was born. Had you been born in nazi germany you would advocate for extermination of the jews and lesser races as much as you advocate for personal freedoms and equality today.

Everything about you, your taste and preferences can be explained via genetic and environmental factors.

Many studies concluded that twins who live completely different lives often share the same interests even the ones split at birth. Adopted children still share stronger traits to their biological parents than their Adopted parents.

At conception your life was already chosen for you. Your risk to taking drugs, chances of your criminality, education level and chances you meet a significant other. You were never consulted about any of the choices and it certainly wasn’t done by a personal all loving god.

This thread is not intended for me making an argument for god but telling you the philosophical conclusion of Atheism.

So are you willing to accept these terms?
Y/N

"The universe is controlled by pre-determined blind forces"



Chapter (67) sūrat l-mulk (Dominion)​



Sahih International: " Indeed, those who fear their Lord unseen will have forgiveness and great reward. "



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It is worth noting that many atheists do claim to accept that free will isn't real and there is no objective morality. Yet paradoxically, they will still expect humans to behave in moral and rational ways.

Here is a funny example:

 

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any interpretation of atheism that doesn't end in nihilism is just cope
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This is what they call optimism but everyone else calls it by it’s real name godless hedonism.

This is ibn al-jawsi said about these people
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There is a reason why they are so suicidal it’s because living a life you know is meaningless and the only thing going for you is distractions. Is depressing.
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This is what they call optimism but everyone else calls it by it’s real name godless hedonism.

This is ibn al-jawsi said about these people
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There is a reason why they are so suicidal it’s because living a life you know is meaningless and the only thing going for you is distractions. Is depressing.
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yes, that's what I'm saying. atheism fundamentally leads to nihilism and dishonest ppl who try to sugarcoat its nihilism are just engaging in cope. atheism is miserable and depressing and a threat to morals. atheists and their supporters can try to cover these things up all they want but it's the reality.
 

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