PIM- Puntland Independence officially being discussed by the Government!!!!!!

[Murax]

For one, I wouldn’t mind at all tbh. Best wishes. That said do not compare yourselves to Somaliland. They underwent atrocities from the last regime, perpetrated by Morgan. They didn’t leave because a clan they didn’t like have presidency.

So my reaction to Puntlanders coming to me threatening to leave?

 

[Capo Dhoore]

Puntland won't leave . We sacrificed everything to bring this country back on its feet. We're the reason the fgs even exists today. A bush boon won't pressure us into leaving . He'll eventually be exiled just like the other booon was

 

[whitehartlane]

Puntites having desires to seek independence has nothing to do with farmaajo or his clan but the fact the Politicians from the south continue to undermine all opportunities to get Somalia back up again and are constantly in battle with the sultanate from the northeast.

nothing has been achieved since the days of the Transitional governments.

alshabaab still control large parts of the nation
Warlords still command men and weapons privately.
No national rehabilitation program.
No fruitful talks with somaliland.
No cooperation between the federal government and member states.
no new currency.
No finalised constitution.
No national army.
No functioning aviation.
no Supreme Court.
No national police.
No national curriculum.
No 1 man 1 vote.
No economic program.
No internal refugees program.
No external refugees program.
No national disaster plan.


Villa Somalia is constantly in battle with member states to counter effect federalism.

I have always been a strong supporter of a strong Somali nation but I am coming to understand that Somalis are maybe stronger as separate states without undermining each other...

 

[whitehartlane]

For one, I wouldn’t mind at all tbh. Best wishes. That said do not compare yourselves to Somaliland. They underwent atrocities from the last regime, perpetrated by Morgan. They didn’t leave because a clan they didn’t like have presidency.

So my reaction to Puntlanders coming to me threatening to leave?



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Doqonyahay, you wouldn’t survive in the south without puntland.. if we leave, your tiny tinpot qabiil wouldn’t be able to use a toilet in Villa Somalia let alone command a serious post. The top four positions would be between Abgaal, habargidir, Ogaden Raxanweyn and ja-reer... there is absolutely nothing you would be able to bring to the table.

the only reason Marexaan has relevance in Somalia is to be used by Hawiye to counter Darood. If we leave there won’t be any further need for 4.5 which is the only chance for Mareexaan to have relevance..

maak yourself when has Marexaan as people ever been relevant in Somali politics...

can you recal a major gathering happening on Marexaan soil, or Marexaan initiated talks, or even a Marexaan led plan..

talks in habargidir lands
Talks in mj lands
Talks in Raxanwayn lands
Talks in Ogaden land
And if Isaaq were in this mess there would also be talks in hargeysa..

but can you even for fun imagine Somalis coming together in beledxaawo....I am guessing delegates have to cross the border to maandeera for toilet breaks...

becareful for what you wish for missy it may actually happen...

 

[codewebsduh]

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You are Ethiopian hahah

 

[codewebsduh]

This is such a stupid thread. Go to Puntland and say PIM where people have Somalia all over their bajaaj

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Doqonyahay, you wouldn’t survive in the south without puntland.. if we leave, your tiny tinpot qabiil wouldn’t be able to use a toilet in Villa Somalia let alone command a serious post. The top four positions would be between Abgaal, habargidir, Ogaden Raxanweyn and ja-reer... there is absolutely nothing you would be able to bring to the table.

the only reason Marexaan has relevance in Somalia is to be used by Hawiye to counter Darood. If we leave there won’t be any further need for 4.5 which is the only chance for Mareexaan to have relevance..

maak yourself when has Marexaan as people ever been relevant in Somali politics...

can you recal a major gathering happening on Marexaan soil, or Marexaan initiated talks, or even a Marexaan led plan..

talks in habargidir lands
Talks in mj lands
Talks in Raxanwayn lands
Talks in Ogaden land
And if Isaaq were in this mess there would also be talks in hargeysa..

but can you even for fun imagine Somalis coming together in beledxaawo....I am guessing delegates have to cross the border to maandeera for toilet breaks...

becareful for what you wish for missy it may actually happen...

I sincerely hope this is not a man, if it is LMAO, someone should spike this guys covid-19 vaccination with a dose of testosterone

 

[Juliet]

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[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

For one, I wouldn’t mind at all tbh. Best wishes. That said do not compare yourselves to Somaliland. They underwent atrocities from the last regime, perpetrated by Morgan. They didn’t leave because a clan they didn’t like have presidency.

So my reaction to Puntlanders coming to me threatening to leave?



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What the hell are you talking about? Nobody is talking to you or cares for your opinion.

Nobody cares what Cabudwak and Gedo think about anything.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Doqonyahay, you wouldn’t survive in the south without puntland.. if we leave, your tiny tinpot qabiil wouldn’t be able to use a toilet in Villa Somalia let alone command a serious post. The top four positions would be between Abgaal, habargidir, Ogaden Raxanweyn and ja-reer... there is absolutely nothing you would be able to bring to the table.

the only reason Marexaan has relevance in Somalia is to be used by Hawiye to counter Darood. If we leave there won’t be any further need for 4.5 which is the only chance for Mareexaan to have relevance..

maak yourself when has Marexaan as people ever been relevant in Somali politics...

can you recal a major gathering happening on Marexaan soil, or Marexaan initiated talks, or even a Marexaan led plan..

talks in habargidir lands
Talks in mj lands
Talks in Raxanwayn lands
Talks in Ogaden land
And if Isaaq were in this mess there would also be talks in hargeysa..

but can you even for fun imagine Somalis coming together in beledxaawo....I am guessing delegates have to cross the border to maandeera for toilet breaks...

becareful for what you wish for missy it may actually happen...

Facts! That is why I cannot wait until 4.5 is dissolved and this parasite clan has to stand on their own feet. Let's see if Hawiye would ever try to use them again lmao

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Puntites having desires to seek independence has nothing to do with farmaajo or his clan but the fact the Politicians from the south continue to undermine all opportunities to get Somalia back up again and are constantly in battle with the sultanate from the northeast.

nothing has been achieved since the days of the Transitional governments.

alshabaab still control large parts of the nation
Warlords still command men and weapons privately.
No national rehabilitation program.
No fruitful talks with somaliland.
No cooperation between the federal government and member states.
no new currency.
No finalised constitution.
No national army.
No functioning aviation.
no Supreme Court.
No national police.
No national curriculum.
No 1 man 1 vote.
No economic program.
No internal refugees program.
No external refugees program.
No national disaster plan.


Villa Somalia is constantly in battle with member states to counter effect federalism.

I have always been a strong supporter of a strong Somali nation but I am coming to understand that Somalis are maybe stronger as separate states without undermining each other...

Yes. All of this.

Farmaajo's regime might just be the last nail in the coffin.

I do hope Puntland leaves, we gain nothing but a headache from staying.

 

[Muzaffer]

Yes. All of this.

Farmaajo's regime might just be the last nail in the coffin.

I do hope Puntland leaves, we gain nothing but a headache from staying.

yes your right let all the states leave Somalia and then what be Ethiopia right?

when I used to hear Somali people are narrow-minded people I used to be angry but now I agree with that.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

yes your right let all the states leave Somalia and then what be Ethiopia ***** right?

when I used to hear Somali people are narrow-minded people I used to be angry but now I agree with that.

Puntland has to preserve itself, are we supposed to wait around until Nabi Ciise comes and rules the world?

We can find ways to counter the crumbling ethiopia that is mired in ethnic conflict.

South Somalia is infected and we must cut it off to save our body= Puntland.

 

[Muzaffer]

Puntland has to preserve itself, are we supposed to wait around until Nabi Ciise comes and rules the world?

We can find ways to counter the crumbling Ethiopia that is mired in ethnic conflict.

South Somalia is infected and we must cut it off to save our body= Puntland.

this won't solve the problem the only thing that is saving us from Ethiopia is our unite.

what if Ethiopia attacks Puntland.

are you going to the African Union or the united nations?

sorry you are Muslim nation no one will respect you

or are you going to fight them?

sorry Puntland is pathetic and small comparing to Ethiopia.

 

[Muzaffer]

Puntland has to preserve itself, are we supposed to wait around until Nabi Ciise comes and rules the world?

We can find ways to counter the crumbling ethiopia that is mired in ethnic conflict.

South Somalia is infected and we must cut it off to save our body= Puntland.

oh, and what about NFD and Ogaden are we gonna just leave them?

as I said Somali people now are narrow-minded. shame

 

[0117]

this won't solve the problem the only thing that is saving us from Ethiopia is our unite.

what if Ethiopia attacks Puntland.

are you going to the African Union or the united nations?

sorry you are Muslim nation no one will respect you

or are you going to fight them?

sorry Puntland is pathetic and small comparing to Ethiopia.

What the hell has Ethiopia got to do with this thread

 

[Muzaffer]

What the hell has Ethiopia got to do with this thread

the problem that we don't have long term plan.

do you think if we broke into small states that Ethiopia will leave us in peace?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

oh, and what about NFD and Ogaden are we gonna just leave them?

as I said Somali people now are narrow-minded. shame

Oh ok.. so should Puntland go to the South, free it from AlShaydan then install a new Federal Government and declare war on ethiopia AND kenya?

Somalia at its strongest attempted to capture Ogaden but was ganged up on by Russia, Cuba and other countries.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

this won't solve the problem the only thing that is saving us from Ethiopia is our unite.

what if Ethiopia attacks Puntland.

are you going to the African Union or the united nations?

sorry you are Muslim nation no one will respect you

or are you going to fight them?

sorry Puntland is pathetic and small comparing to Ethiopia.

LOL

Where are you from?

 

[mr steal your naag]

@Maxamed bin Harti coined the term PIM years ago.

We may finally leave the circus called "Somalia". 1960-2021

After all those years