PIM- Puntland Independence officially being discussed by the Government!!!!!!

[The Camels of Cal madow]

But unity was taken advantage of by our leaders

 

[Muzaffer]

What is your message

I mean if Somalia get split into small pathetic states we will be an easy meal for our neighbors

 

[FBIsomalia]

My point is somalis don't have to be unified to be strong

That is why we have federal ama confederation.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

I mean if Somalia get split into small pathetic states we will be an easy meal for our neighbors

We already passed that stage of patheticness when we managed to try and exterminate whole clans even with the same religon, language and culture

 

[Muzaffer]

But unity was taken advantage of by our leaders

the problem is we people have loyalty to our tribes more than to the nation.

we people should act and not wait for the hero to save us.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

the problem is we people have loyalty to our tribes more than to the nation.

we people should act and not wait for the hero to save us.

It is because of the lack of trust in our nation. Our tribe will always protect us but can we say the same about our nation.

 

[Muzaffer]

That is why we have federal ama confederation.

the federal system is the main problem because the centralized government can't do much to stabilize the country.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

the federal system is the main problem because the centralized government can't do much to stabilize the country.

The federal system is good for development as during Centralism only xamar got built up the rest of the country was left behind.

 

[FBIsomalia]

We already passed that stage of patheticness when we managed to try and exterminate whole clans even with the same religon, language and culture

You did this with reer Awdal in 90s by SNM.

 

[mr steal your naag]

the federal system is the main problem because the centralized government can't do much to stabilize the country.

Sxb just forget it. Iam loyal to SL and isaaq. Before iam loyal to this fake somalinimo shit. And some of you guys need to stop forcing it on people

 

[Muzaffer]

It is because of the lack of trust in our nation. Our tribe will always protect us but can we say the same about our nation.

we must build trust, the other nation doesn't see us as Darood or Dir or Hawiye, they see us as Somalis so why can't we see ourselves as Somalis.

 

[FBIsomalia]

the federal system is the main problem because the centralized government can't do much to stabilize the country.

Centeralism it's what break our country apart. We move on from past.

 

[mr steal your naag]

You did this with reer Awdal in 90s by SNM.

It was not SNM it was a subclan of habr awal agains reer awdal because they tried to take gabiley on afweyne orders

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

You did this with reer Awdal in 90s by SNM.

That was bad but we reconciled in borama in 1993 and the Gaddabuursi forgave us.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Sxb just forget it. Iam loyal to SL and isaaq. Before iam loyal to this fake somalinimo shit. And some of you guys need to stop forcing it on people

You forcing others too in your shit like reer Awdal, Sool and Sanaag!.

 

[Muzaffer]

Sxb just forget it. Iam loyal to SL and isaaq. Before iam loyal to this fake somalinimo shit. And some of you guys need to stop forcing it on people

the same thinking of jahiliyyah which prophet Muhammad fought.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

You forcing others too in your shit like reer Awdal, Sool and Sanaag!.

Reer adwal love Somaliland and sanaag is majority isaaq. Sool I won't deny is majority dhulbahante but aynabo district is habar jeclo

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

the same thinking of jahiliyyah which prophet Muhammad fought.

Is somali unity islam though,

 

[mr steal your naag]

You forcing others too in your shit like reer Awdal, Sool and Sanaag!.

First of all half of sanaag belongs to us 2nd these dhulbehante in sool are not get forced they asked SL in 2007 because they were tired of PL stealing their aid money. And awdal joint somaliland by themselfes. If these clans dont want to be a part of SL they woulf have picked up guns and started chaos

 

[FBIsomalia]

we must build trust, the other nation doesn't see us as Darood or Dir or Hawiye, they see us as Somalis so why can't we see ourselves as Somalis.

For that stop fighting others and force them by weapon power.