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[Abaq]

We shouldn’t have let anyone from the FGS come until there is another President.

XSM is an enemy to Dhulos, Harti, Darood. He will always support the secessionists, don’t be fooled.

The man who cut off Puntland’s funds and militarily attacked Jubbaland most certainly does not care about Dhulbahante interests. He hates Darods just as much as he loves looting and stealing. Iimaanka Allah ka qaad

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Daaroods don’t really like each other but they agree on two things only: 1) contempt for Hawiye, and 2) hatred for Iiddoor. Both are visceral reactions that come to them naturally. The worst thing for a Daarood man is to see those two be put in authority over him. Nothing else unites them.

What can be done about the Hawiye though? You either help them establish a state or accept statelessness forever. It's a grim choice.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Daaroods don’t really like each other but they agree on two things only: 1) contempt for Hawiye, and 2) hatred for Iiddoor.

@Bahal follows that but he doesn’t even know it. SL will continue to exist as long as Darood genocidal tendencies aren’t dealt with. SL is the shield that protects Isaaqs and that shield has recently been dented in the east. As soon as that happened Darood savages who have no religion or morals are let loose and kill innocents. No different than your Colonial police force cousins (Liyu Police).

I trust HSM far more than I trust this ugly Jabarti who landed in Eastern Sool.

Both are visceral reactions that come to them naturally. The worst thing for a Daarood man is to see those two be put in authority over him. Nothing else unites them.

Isaaqs will never accept being ruled by a Jabarti. Conflict between Somalian Jabarti & SL Isaaqs can’t be avoided. But Isaaq elders are to dumb to realize that in this world might is right. The only thing we should continue to show higher moral standards is by treating the clans we rule fairly with respect and as Rasullulah SAW had instructed. We will not be savages like the criminals who’s Islam I heavily doubt who attack random villages unprovoked simply for belonging to a different clan.

 

[Garaad Awal]

What can be done about the Hawiye though? You either help them establish a state or accept statelessness forever. It's a grim choice.

Darod are not known for thinking long-term. They are very emotional creatures

 

[Abaq]

What can be done about the Hawiye though? You either help them establish a state or accept statelessness forever. It's a grim choice.

Unfortunately Hawiye is not ready for statehood. They should have formed their own version of the MOD alliance in 91 and led the country but they chose and still choose savagery rather than living like humans. HSM is a classic example of Hawiye leadership: incompetence and greed.

 

[Abaq]

@Bahal follows that but he doesn’t even know it. SL will continue to exist as long as Darood genocidal tendencies aren’t dealt with. SL is the shield that protects Isaaqs and that shield has recently been dented in the east. As soon as that happened Darood savages who have no religion or morals are let loose and kill innocents. No different than your Colonial police force cousins (Liyu Police).

I trust HSM far more than I trust this ugly Jabarti who landed in Eastern Sool.

Isaaqs will never accept being ruled by a Jabarti. Conflict between Somalian Jabarti & SL Isaaqs can’t be avoided. But Isaaq elders are to dumb to realize that in this world might is right. The only thing we should continue to show higher moral standards is by treating the clans we rule fairly with respect and as Rasullulah SAW had instructed. We will not be savages like the criminals who’s Islam I heavily doubt who attack random villages unprovoked simply for belonging to a different clan.

You iiddoor are just as genocidal. You had a unique and rare opportunity in 91-23 to dominate Darod in the North and you took full advantage of it. Unfortunately for you, Harti got their shit together. I suspect once they’re done with the terrorists in Bari they will settle the Ceerigaabo question once and for all.

No Iiddoor rules me, but never forget that I rule you. Dawacaley was a clear reminder.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Unfortunately Hawiye is not ready for statehood. They should have formed their own version of the MOD alliance in 91 and led the country but they chose and still choose savagery rather than living like humans. HSM is a classic example of Hawiye leadership: incompetence and greed.

I hear complaints but I don't hear a strategy.
I think you guys think propaganda will fix all your problems.

 

[Abaq]

I hear complaints but I don't hear a strategy.
I think you guys think propaganda will fix all your problems.

It’s not propaganda. Never in the history of the world has a rebel group taken over the capital and the organs of power and then fail to make a government. Somalia is not held back by Darod, it’s held back by Hawiye that don’t want governance. They control the capital and all state organs.

 

[Bahal]

You can be against SL and not directly advocate for criminal clan militias who savagely attack civilian villages of Isaaq in Sool. This visit by the Jabarti PM endorses the actions of these rogue militias.

They recently attacked Ceerigaabo in order to expel Isaaqs and once the Isaaqs repelled, the Jabartis civilians were sent packing. The locals of this region have resorted to tribal militias of their own to defend themselves. Do you think your Jabarti PM hugging these criminals helps you in ever waving the blue flag in Hargeisa?

Then don’t advocate or co-sign for Darod tribal militias who have no intent on living peacefully with other Somalis. These militias have no loyalty to any higher ideals than killing Isaaqs. SL whether you despise or not has always had open hand to peacefully coexisting with other Somalis like the Samarone for example.


This is a lesson for any Isaaq “unionists” reading this. The Darood faux ethno-nationalist will always side with his tribesmen. There are only a handful of principled Somalian Somali men & woman who have actual principles and don’t seek to harm Isaaqs, these types are rare.

Again, what an outrageous reach from what I thought was a rather innocuous post

You're getting yourself worked up building up and knocking down strawmans because that is the way your mind works, everything is to be approached from a qabiil angle and of course I have to have some ulterior motive

If the situations were reversed with dhulbahante separatists and isaaq unionists, my position would be exactly the same.

SL separatism is built on the idea that Isaaqs were victims of state sanctioned violence who were denied the right of self determination while 30 some years later we literally witnessed LA being indiscriminately shelled by the SL state in an attempt to deny Dhulbahantes their right of self determination

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Garaad Awal]

You iiddoor are just as genocidal.

That’s the emotional Darod side talking. Our elders have always advocated for restraint. We also control our nutjobs while Darood praise theirs.

You had a unique and rare opportunity in 91-23 to dominate Darod in the North

We did and we did it peacefully. But living in peace with Somalis that aren’t Jabarti doesn’t process in the brains of the Jabarti. He is willing to burn everything to stroke his tribal ego. There is nothing intelligent or principled about the Jabarti.

and you took full advantage of it. Unfortunately for you, Harti got their shit together.

Harti doesn’t have shit together. The Dhulos went back to squabbling and the Hartis and Darold’s went back to squabbling. The weakness in SL is primarily an internal Isaaq divisions and corruption within our ranks. This had nothing to do with Jabartis being smart for once.

I suspect once they’re done with the terrorists in Bari they will settle the Ceerigaabo question once and for all.

Genocidal war against Isaaq won’t help the Harti. Isaaqs have numerical & economic superiority. Full clan mobilization of Isaaq men would crush the Harti in a few months. SL leadership are right now averse to that especially the Autistic Cirro.

No Iiddoor rules me, but never forget that I rule you.

You get slapped by a Kikuyu who also gropes your women at checkpoints. You are not the one to talk about living free. Isaaqs live more free than the average Jabarti in the HOA.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Again, what an outrageous reach from what I thought was a rather innocuous post

You're getting yourself worked up building up and knocking down strawmans because that is the way your mind works, everything is to be approached from a qabiil angle and of course I have to have some ulterior motive

If the situations were reversed with dhulbahante separatists and isaaq unionists, my position would be exactly the same.

SL separatism is built on the idea that Isaaqs were victims of state sanctioned violence who were denied the right of self determination while 30 some years later we literally witnessed LA being indiscriminately shelled by the SL state in an attempt to deny Dhulbahantes their right of self determination

What the hell are you talking about?

No point of rationally discussing with a Mx kacaanist or any Jabarti. The only thing between Isaaqs and the genocidal murtadeen is the bullet.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

It’s not propaganda. Never in the history of the world has a rebel group taken over the capital and the organs of power and then fail to make a government. Somalia is not held back by Darod, it’s held back by Hawiye that don’t want governance. They control the capital and all state organs.

Yes pretty much true.

But that was also your argument against Somaliland (we are retuning to a stable somalia, yada yada) for the last decade plus. Now the tide is turning fast. I don't think you guys have a solution for that and the arrogance will come to an end for you.

 

[Garaad Awal]

I hear complaints but I don't hear a strategy.
I think you guys think propaganda will fix all your problems.

They don’t think. There is nothing intelligent rationally dealing with the Jabarti.Tbh the Hawiye have their problems but their much easier to deal with, SL-Somalia issue could have been resolved if it weren’t for the Jabarti. As @Abaq admitted, they can accept Jabarti being ruled by Bantus or Ethiopian Highlanders but the moment an Isaaq rules them is when all hell breaks loose.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

They don’t think. There is nothing intelligent rationally dealing with the Jabarti.Tbh the Hawiye have their problems but their much easier to deal with, SL-Somalia issue could have been resolved if it weren’t for the Jabarti. As @Abaq admitted, they can accept Jabarti being ruled by Bantus or Ethiopian Highlanders but the moment an Isaaq rules them is when all hell breaks loose.

I agree but what can they do. The settlement in Africa is decided by great powers not Africans.

 

[Bahal]

No point of rationally discussing with a Mx kacaanist or any Jabarti. The only thing between Isaaqs and the genocidal murtadeen is the bullet.

Man, you are really far gone

 

[Garaad Awal]

I agree but what can they do. The settlement in Africa is decided by great powers not Africans.

I don’t care about what they do but we must destroy the criminal gangs and spare the civilians. Once SL is ready to conduct full-scale war against these groups including Eastern Sanaag militias and PL; we give the civilians of these regions 1 week to flee to avoid being caught in the crossfire. We must also advocate through diplomatic links that the ENDF must be stationed in Buhoodle and on that border near PL so the PL troops don’t try to outflank SL as they usually do by traversing Ethiopia.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Man, you are really far gone

Says the one celebrating & advocating criminal gangs because they pledged allegiance to a blue flag. f*ck off you pos

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I don’t care about what they do but we must destroy the criminal gangs and spare the civilians. Once SL is ready to conduct full-scale war against these groups including Eastern Sanaag militias and PL; we give the civilians of these regions 1 week to flee to avoid being caught in the crossfire. We must also advocate through diplomatic links that the ENDF must be stationed in Buhoodle and on that border near PL so the PL troops don’t try to outflank SL as they usually do by traversing Ethiopia.

When Somaliland is ready we won't need any ENDF. But you should always offer peace first to all those that will take it.

 

[jusbrowsin]

I don’t care about what they do but we must destroy the criminal gangs and spare the civilians. Once SL is ready to conduct full-scale war against these groups including Eastern Sanaag militias and PL; we give the civilians of these regions 1 week to flee to avoid being caught in the crossfire. We must also advocate through diplomatic links that the ENDF must be stationed in Buhoodle and on that border near PL so the PL troops don’t try to outflank SL as they usually do by traversing Ethiopia.

suugo tactics

 

[TheLand]

Man, you are really far gone

Don’t mind him, he wanted to start a rebel group to murder his fellow iidoors just a few months ago because his autistic uncle was voted out . You damned genocidal MX gave him this ptsd