President Deni refuse HAG request

When you carefully study Somali history, you will find that HAG are better allies, neighbours etc, to Puntites than those kacaanists have ever been.
When Afwayne sent his soldiers to brutalise our people, it was Saleebaan HG who hid our daughters in their homes. It was Saleebaan HG who stopped the kacaanist red berets from killing MJ shacab in Dhusomareeb.

If it wasn't for 1991, HAG would be angels from heaven. Let's be very real and let's keep it 100.
 
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Karim

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When you carefully study Somali history, you will find that HAG are better allies, neighbours etc, to Puntites than those kacaanists have ever been.
When Afwayne sent his soldiers to brutalise our people, it was HG who hid our daughters in their homes. It was HG who stopped the kacaanist red berets from killing MJ shacab in Dhusomareeb.

If it wasn't for 1991, HAG would be angels from heaven. Let's be very real and let's keep it 100.
Are you joking?!!!!


You CANNOT be serious:gucciwhat:
 
Are you joking?!!!!


You CANNOT be serious:gucciwhat:


Walahi, it's the truth. Ask around. Hawiye refused to slaughter us when Afwayne was in charge, in fact, Saleebaan HG sided with us and protected our shacab.

Tell me please, what has Marehan ever done to help MJs? The minute those people gained power, they turned on us, same thing happened in Kismaayo.

1991, is when HAG turned evil & lost their damn minds.
 
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When you carefully study Somali history, you will find that HAG are better allies, neighbours etc, to Puntites than those kacaanists have ever been.
When Afwayne sent his soldiers to brutalise our people, it was HG who hid our daughters in their homes. It was HG who stopped the kacaanist red berets from killing MJ shacab in Dhusomareeb.

If it wasn't for 1991, HAG would be angels from heaven. Let's be very real and let's keep it 100.
This is the part I don't get. Is the Kacaan solely Marehan? Because I was always under the assumption they were a government with everyone inside it. So wouldn't that make it a state sponsored killing instead of a tribal one?

1 seemed to me state sponsored by Barre to consolidate power while the other seemed tribal cuqdad.
 
This is the part I don't get. Is the Kacaan solely Marehan? Because I'm under the assumption they were a government with everyone inside it. So wouldn't that make it a state sponsored killing instead of a tribal one?

1 seemed to me state sponsored by Barre to consolidate power while the other seemed tribal cuqdad.


It was state sponsored but the red berets were Marehan and that clan never condemned or stopped their man. Their antics in Kismaayo solidified that it's them and not just one man who is this insidious in nature.

The only clan that is known to have sided with MJs and actually helped us during the kacaan murder spree, are Habar Gidir.

If anyone has SSDF affiliated relatives, ask them.
 

Karim

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Walahi, it's the truth. Ask around. Hawiye refused to slaughter us when Afwayne was in charge, in fact, HG sided with us and protected our shacab.

Tell me please, what has Marehan ever done to help MJs? The minute those people gained power, they turned on us, same thing happened in Kismaayo.

1991, is when HAG turned evil & lost their damn minds.
I respect you as a cousin but YOU ARE WRONG in this matter. Not just wrong but completely and utterly wrong. In spite of what the most vehement anti Marehan members among our crew might say, there is no greater enemy to our people than HAG.

Who butchered thousands of our people in the streets of Mogadishu?!
MJ and Harti in general used to own Mogadishu, we were the business wealthy class of the City, tell me who confiscated all that wealth and currently squats in it?!
Where is our magnificent farms in Sh/Hoose?! Who took it?!
Who was responsible for Half Qiyaamo and the slaughter of our people in Galkaio?!
Who claims our territories in Mudug as their own and have plans to capture it?!!


I would NEVER in a million years trust a HAG. Your extreme hatred for Marehans might cloud your judgment to see the real enemy.
 

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@PuntiteQueen the kacaanist is far better in my eyes then the hordes, the 30 year stateless situation is unbearable, humiliating, in-fact most our ppl are refugees becuz of them. Siyad never left this sort of impact, so what if he killed a few ppl, it wasn't state collapse n 30 year dark age which we are still in mind u.

@Karim if I had to pick between siyad n hordes, I know who I wud choose
 
I respect you as a cousin but YOU ARE WRONG in this matter. Not just wrong but completely and utterly wrong. In spite of what the most vehement anti Marehan members among our crew might say, there is no greater enemy to our people than HAG.

Who butchered thousands of our people in the streets of Mogadishu?!
MJ and Harti in general used to own Mogadishu, we were the business wealthy class of the City, tell me who confiscated all that wealth and currently squats in it?!
Where is our magnificent farms in Sh/Hoose?! Who took it?!
Who was responsible for Half Qiyaamo and the slaughter of our people in Galkaio?!
Who claims our territories in Mudug as their own and have plans to capture it?!!


I would NEVER in a million years trust a HAG. Your extreme hatred for Marehans might cloud your judgment to see the real enemy.



Yes walaale. That was 1991. I am talking pre-1991.

I am not saying that we absolve HAG from their heinous crimes but we should be able to recognise who our enemies are and it's not just HAG.

If it comes between a HAG and a small-toothed quule muncher, let's see which one of them will deliver to us, no qabiil caadifad.
 

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@PuntiteQueen your asking to choose between having a govt which is siyad and 91-2020, be reasonable will u, I know u dont like marehan but don't preach to us to love the ppl that brought somalia to it's lowest point ever in history, sade never did that, i would prefer losing my clans-men then living in 30 year horde heaven at least in a state u have a nation and semblance of order
 
@DR OSMAN @Karim

As MJs we don't just have HAG breathing down our neck, it's also the HAG servant tribe.
I am happy to leave it here because I know no MJ man would ever follow either of these people blindly.

I am also happy and content in the knowledge that we kicked the small toothed tribe in their mouths after their massacre spree.

Nabad boqors :it0tdo8:
 

Karim

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Yes walaale. That was 1991. I am talking pre-1991.

I am not saying that we absolve HAG from their heinous crimes but we should be able to recognise who our enemies are and it's not just HAG.

If it comes between a HAG and a small-toothed quule muncher, let's see which one of them will deliver to us, no qabiil caadifad.
My dear sister, Marehan is generally weak in this day and age, even with their dude Farmaajo on the realm they ain't much of a threat. But HAG are currently our biggest enemy and it ain't even close. Their plans is existential threat to us. I have seen you supporting the current HAG coalition candidates in Mogadishu out of hatred for Farmaajo but let's be practical. If HAG candidate wins the presidency it will be 2015 all over again, he will arm Galmudug to capture our City, he will give the Jeegans free pass and much needed financial aids. Farmaajo will never arm GalNus to attack us nor he will support the Jeegans.
 

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When you carefully study Somali history, you will find that HAG are better allies, neighbours etc, to Puntites than those kacaanists have ever been.
When Afwayne sent his soldiers to brutalise our people, it was HG who hid our daughters in their homes. It was HG who stopped the kacaanist red berets from killing MJ shacab in Dhusomareeb.

If it wasn't for 1991, HAG would be angels from heaven. Let's be very real and let's keep it 100.

It was only Saleebaan that did that, sacad and ceyr joined kacaan like the vultures they are. Cumar maxamuud fled their districts in mudug, sacad were grazing upto Burtinle. That's why they're so fixated on northern mudug. Naturally when the real inhabitants returned from hawd, sacad were pushed back to gelinsoor. As for Ceyr, kalab Abdiqasim salad was interior minister under Afweyne, NSS reported to the interior minister. He didn't oversaw the atrocities in Mudug, but he did oversee the many atrocities in Mogadishu and Kismayo like extrajudicial killings, arrests and persecution of Majeerteens. This is why AY and many hawks hated Abdiqassim, Abdiqassim didn't participate in the 1991 civil war that much but he's despised for his role in Kacaan.

So it wasn't all of HG, just Saleebaan.
 
It was only Saleebaan that did that, sacad and ceyr joined kacaan like the vultures they are. Cumar maxamuud fled their districts in mudug, sacad were grazing upto Burtinle. That's why they're so fixated on northern mudug. Naturally when the real inhabitants returned from hawd, sacad were pushed back to gelinsoor. As for Ceyr, kalab Abdiqasim salad was interior minister under Afweyne, NSS reported to the interior minister. He didn't oversaw the atrocities in Mudug, but he did oversee the many atrocities in Mogadishu and Kismayo like extrajudicial killings, arrests and persecution of Majeerteens. This is why AY and many hawks hated Abdiqassim, Abdiqassim didn't participate in the 1991 civil war that much but he's despised for his role in Kacaan.

So it wasn't all of HG, just Saleebaan.



Oh wow!! Let me go edit my comment from HG to "Saleebaan HG".

Abdiqasim had a MX mother I heard and he was raised by them.

@Abdalla this also explains rumours I would hear about MJs helping Saleebaan HG during certain events.
 

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It was only Saleebaan that did that, sacad and ceyr joined kacaan like the vultures they are. Cumar maxamuud fled their districts in mudug, sacad were grazing upto Burtinle. That's why they're so fixated on northern mudug. Naturally when the real inhabitants returned from hawd, sacad were pushed back to gelinsoor. As for Ceyr, kalab Abdiqasim salad was interior minister under Afweyne, NSS reported to the interior minister. He didn't oversaw the atrocities in Mudug, but he did oversee the many atrocities in Mogadishu and Kismayo like extrajudicial killings, arrests and persecution of Majeerteens. This is why AY and many hawks hated Abdiqassim, Abdiqassim didn't participate in the 1991 civil war that much but he's despised for his role in Kacaan.

So it wasn't all of HG, just Saleebaan.

Liar. Sacad never supported the Kacaan nor its atrocities in Mudug. I have documented proof Sacad were pro SNM, Saleban were pro SSDF.

Infact i can flip the script on you and ask why did you side with Afwayne when SSDF surrendered and you took government weapons to attack us?
 

Amazonian

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Remove Farmaajo from office, and Darood loses all of its power within the federal government for the next 5 years.
 
Remove Farmaajo from office, and Darood loses all of its power within the federal government for the next 5 years.


What Daarood was in power? Farmaajo spend all his time building a HAG SNA and undermining PL and JL.

Forget Daarood, what we really wanted was a normal leader who built an inclusive army and didn't try to actively destroy us.
 

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