Probably the most important question on our ancient SSA nilotic ancestry

[Apollo]

I feel sick I have the DNA of that thing in me wtf.

They made it more tolerable by reconstructing them as modern humans. When some crazy scientist clones a Neanderthal and brings them back they will all be disgusted again.

@Apollo what did Neanderthals descend from?

They have been in Ice Age West Asia/Europe for most of their relevant evolution.

 

[land owner]

They have been in Ice Age West Asia/Europe for most of their relevant evolution.

I mean what hominid is their ancestor? Homo erectus?

 

[911]

They made it more tolerable by reconstructing them as modern-day humans. When some crazy scientist clones a Neanderthal and brings them back they will all be disgusted again.



They have been in Ice Age West Asia/Europe for most of their relevant evolution.

Loooool wallahi until now I thought neanderthals looked like this

But apparently they looked like beasts.

 

[Finesse]

Wtf

So which human males got aroused from a neanderthal??

Or which human females were raped?

I will not believe it was consensual.

Ya rabb this is fake. If we are all from Adam and Eve what are those things??

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Wtf

So which human males got aroused from a neanderthal??

Or which human females were raped?

I will not believe it was consensual.

Ya rabb this is fake. If we are all from Adam and Eve what are those things??

Jiins

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

If they did look like that then can't we just channel our ancestor's brute force?


When East Asian Martial Artist explained what Ki was to the rest of the world we thought they were talking out of there ass.


They might have discovered the hidden Neantherdal power in all of us (except Madow rip).

 

[MI]

Thanks

What is Neolithic North African? Is it Berber?

What did they look like?

For me personally I imagine they looked a bit like this. The real melanochroi Caucasoid, I believe they had a gene which accounts for 1/3 of the skin tone different between Europeans and Black Africans , I actually don’t know if ancient North Africans possessed other genes for light skin though. But something close to this, give or take.

 

[Grant]

Are the Eyle a remnant of a hunter-gather group in Somalia or from the Bantu expansion?

What appears to be a continuous archaeological record at Buur Heybe (Buur Eyle) goes back 20,000 years.

1. Early Holocene Mortuary Practices and Hunter-Gatherer ... - Jstor
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/124524The Buur Ecological and Archaeological Project (BEAP) is a long-term .... The climate in the Buur Heybe region is warm and semi-arid, with a mean annual.
2. The Upper Pleistocene and Early Holocene Prehistory of the ... - jstor
   jstor.orgSAFEThreats: 0
   Full Report
   
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/25130464excavation in Somalia, the MSA/LSA site of Gogoshiis Qabe at Buur Heybe ( ... Figure 1 Map of the Horn of Africa showing archaeological sites (circles) and ...
3. Hunter-gatherer reliance on inselbergs, big game, and dwarf antelope ...
   https://usm.maine.edu/sites/default...Range Site, Buur Hakaba, southern Somalia.pdfArchaeological research in central and southern Somalia, however, .... rock shelter at Buur Heybe, where he uncovered an archaeological sequence almost ...
4. Buur Heybe | Archiqoo
   https://archiqoo.com/locations/buur_heybe.phpBuur Heybe is a small village in the southern Bay province of Somalia. The site contains a Middle and Later Stone Age archaeological sequence. Buur Heybe .

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/568fb2d44.pdf

A Danish Immigration Service report published in 2000, in a section titled “Eyle” (subsection headed “8.1 Groups and sub-groups, geographical distribution”), states: “According to Mr Fara Oumari Mohamud, a representative of the Eyle (Eile) community in Nairobi, the Eyle centuries ago had their own kingdom, ruled by King Gedi Ababo, around the hill Bur Eyle close to Bur Hakaba (Bay region). The Eyle were hunters and agro-pastoralists. They believe themselves to be of Falasha (or Jewish) origin before they were Islamised. They were treated by the main Somali clans as religious outcasts. Fara Oumari Mohamud said that before the war there were some one thousand Eyle families living scattered throughout southern Somalia up to and including the Hiran region, but the majority lived in two districts, Bulo Burte in Hiran region, and Bur Hakaba in Bay region. These remain today the principal areas where the Eyle live in Somalia. Presently, there are approximately two to three hundred Eyle families in Somalia.” (Danish Immigration Service (24 September 2000) Report on Minority Groups in Somalia, p.47) This section of the report also states: “Lewis (1994a) considers the Eile (Eyle) of Bur Eibe as a Negroid people, living in the area between the two rivers. They cultivate during the rains and hunt in the dry season (with dogs, considered dirty creatures by the 'noble' Somali). Both the Hawiye and the Digil despise them, and there seems good reason to regard them as a pre-Cushistic aboriginal population. They comprise three primary sections, one of which appears to be related to a dynasty of chiefs that ruled the Bur region at some time. Smaller Eile groups are found at Dafet, on the lower and mid-Shabelle, and among the Shidle. Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi adds that in the 1960s and 1970s the Eyle had some hunting and farming communities in the vicinity of Mount Eyle (Bur Eyle, Bur Eibe), some 60 km south of Baidoa. Their numbers have been constantly in decline since the 1960s due to assimilation with the Rahanweyn and Bantu agricultural communities or through migration to large towns such as Mogadishu where they found employment as butchers. In Mogadishu, before the civil war, the Eyle occupied a large squatter camp beside the grounds of the National University, to the consternation of the university officials who demanded their eviction. The civil war has scattered the few communities that the Eyle had. Abdullahi considers the Eyle an endangered community that would have difficulty in reconstituting its former settlements around the plains of Mount Eyle.” (ibid, p.47)


They have a Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate...Boqortooyada-Qowmiyadda-Eyle-104653987064311/

 

[Finesse]

Can someone please explain how the Islamic origin theory matches with these other "humans" such as neanderthals and so forth... what are they really?

Were they on earth before humans were?

 

[MI]

What appears to be a continuous archaeological record at Buur Heybe (Buur Eyle) goes back 20,000 years.

1. Early Holocene Mortuary Practices and Hunter-Gatherer ... - Jstor
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/124524The Buur Ecological and Archaeological Project (BEAP) is a long-term .... The climate in the Buur Heybe region is warm and semi-arid, with a mean annual.
2. The Upper Pleistocene and Early Holocene Prehistory of the ... - jstor
   jstor.orgSAFEThreats: 0
   Full Report
   
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/25130464excavation in Somalia, the MSA/LSA site of Gogoshiis Qabe at Buur Heybe ( ... Figure 1 Map of the Horn of Africa showing archaeological sites (circles) and ...
3. Hunter-gatherer reliance on inselbergs, big game, and dwarf antelope ...
   https://usm.maine.edu/sites/default/files/geography-anthropology/Hunter-gatherer reliance on inseelbergs, big game, and dwarf antelope at the Rifle Range Site, Buur Hakaba, southern Somalia.pdfArchaeological research in central and southern Somalia, however, .... rock shelter at Buur Heybe, where he uncovered an archaeological sequence almost ...
4. Buur Heybe | Archiqoo
   https://archiqoo.com/locations/buur_heybe.phpBuur Heybe is a small village in the southern Bay province of Somalia. The site contains a Middle and Later Stone Age archaeological sequence. Buur Heybe .

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/568fb2d44.pdf

A Danish Immigration Service report published in 2000, in a section titled “Eyle” (subsection headed “8.1 Groups and sub-groups, geographical distribution”), states: “According to Mr Fara Oumari Mohamud, a representative of the Eyle (Eile) community in Nairobi, the Eyle centuries ago had their own kingdom, ruled by King Gedi Ababo, around the hill Bur Eyle close to Bur Hakaba (Bay region). The Eyle were hunters and agro-pastoralists. They believe themselves to be of Falasha (or Jewish) origin before they were Islamised. They were treated by the main Somali clans as religious outcasts. Fara Oumari Mohamud said that before the war there were some one thousand Eyle families living scattered throughout southern Somalia up to and including the Hiran region, but the majority lived in two districts, Bulo Burte in Hiran region, and Bur Hakaba in Bay region. These remain today the principal areas where the Eyle live in Somalia. Presently, there are approximately two to three hundred Eyle families in Somalia.” (Danish Immigration Service (24 September 2000) Report on Minority Groups in Somalia, p.47) This section of the report also states: “Lewis (1994a) considers the Eile (Eyle) of Bur Eibe as a Negroid people, living in the area between the two rivers. They cultivate during the rains and hunt in the dry season (with dogs, considered dirty creatures by the 'noble' Somali). Both the Hawiye and the Digil despise them, and there seems good reason to regard them as a pre-Cushistic aboriginal population. They comprise three primary sections, one of which appears to be related to a dynasty of chiefs that ruled the Bur region at some time. Smaller Eile groups are found at Dafet, on the lower and mid-Shabelle, and among the Shidle. Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi adds that in the 1960s and 1970s the Eyle had some hunting and farming communities in the vicinity of Mount Eyle (Bur Eyle, Bur Eibe), some 60 km south of Baidoa. Their numbers have been constantly in decline since the 1960s due to assimilation with the Rahanweyn and Bantu agricultural communities or through migration to large towns such as Mogadishu where they found employment as butchers. In Mogadishu, before the civil war, the Eyle occupied a large squatter camp beside the grounds of the National University, to the consternation of the university officials who demanded their eviction. The civil war has scattered the few communities that the Eyle had. Abdullahi considers the Eyle an endangered community that would have difficulty in reconstituting its former settlements around the plains of Mount Eyle.” (ibid, p.47)


They have a Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate...Boqortooyada-Qowmiyadda-Eyle-104653987064311/

We know from population genetics now that Cushitic pastoralist DNA had reached deepest South Africa by 800CE. Whatever population Eyle were, if they even were click-speakers, I think they have been heavily intermixed with Cushitic populations for a long time, probably part of an existing cline with increasing Cushitic admixture that reached all the way to the South African Cape. This dive into Sub-Saharan Africa by Cushitic populations probably started in Neolithic Sudan and had reached the Rift Valley by around 3000 BCE.

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites...stLipsonSawchuk_Science_PastoralNeolithic.pdf

 

[Apollo]

What appears to be a continuous archaeological record at Buur Heybe (Buur Eyle) goes back 20,000 years.

1. Early Holocene Mortuary Practices and Hunter-Gatherer ... - Jstor
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/124524The Buur Ecological and Archaeological Project (BEAP) is a long-term .... The climate in the Buur Heybe region is warm and semi-arid, with a mean annual.
2. The Upper Pleistocene and Early Holocene Prehistory of the ... - jstor
   jstor.orgSAFEThreats: 0
   Full Report
   
   https://www.jstor.org/stable/25130464excavation in Somalia, the MSA/LSA site of Gogoshiis Qabe at Buur Heybe ( ... Figure 1 Map of the Horn of Africa showing archaeological sites (circles) and ...
3. Hunter-gatherer reliance on inselbergs, big game, and dwarf antelope ...
   https://usm.maine.edu/sites/default/files/geography-anthropology/Hunter-gatherer reliance on inseelbergs, big game, and dwarf antelope at the Rifle Range Site, Buur Hakaba, southern Somalia.pdfArchaeological research in central and southern Somalia, however, .... rock shelter at Buur Heybe, where he uncovered an archaeological sequence almost ...
4. Buur Heybe | Archiqoo
   https://archiqoo.com/locations/buur_heybe.phpBuur Heybe is a small village in the southern Bay province of Somalia. The site contains a Middle and Later Stone Age archaeological sequence. Buur Heybe .

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/568fb2d44.pdf

A Danish Immigration Service report published in 2000, in a section titled “Eyle” (subsection headed “8.1 Groups and sub-groups, geographical distribution”), states: “According to Mr Fara Oumari Mohamud, a representative of the Eyle (Eile) community in Nairobi, the Eyle centuries ago had their own kingdom, ruled by King Gedi Ababo, around the hill Bur Eyle close to Bur Hakaba (Bay region). The Eyle were hunters and agro-pastoralists. They believe themselves to be of Falasha (or Jewish) origin before they were Islamised. They were treated by the main Somali clans as religious outcasts. Fara Oumari Mohamud said that before the war there were some one thousand Eyle families living scattered throughout southern Somalia up to and including the Hiran region, but the majority lived in two districts, Bulo Burte in Hiran region, and Bur Hakaba in Bay region. These remain today the principal areas where the Eyle live in Somalia. Presently, there are approximately two to three hundred Eyle families in Somalia.” (Danish Immigration Service (24 September 2000) Report on Minority Groups in Somalia, p.47) This section of the report also states: “Lewis (1994a) considers the Eile (Eyle) of Bur Eibe as a Negroid people, living in the area between the two rivers. They cultivate during the rains and hunt in the dry season (with dogs, considered dirty creatures by the 'noble' Somali). Both the Hawiye and the Digil despise them, and there seems good reason to regard them as a pre-Cushistic aboriginal population. They comprise three primary sections, one of which appears to be related to a dynasty of chiefs that ruled the Bur region at some time. Smaller Eile groups are found at Dafet, on the lower and mid-Shabelle, and among the Shidle. Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi adds that in the 1960s and 1970s the Eyle had some hunting and farming communities in the vicinity of Mount Eyle (Bur Eyle, Bur Eibe), some 60 km south of Baidoa. Their numbers have been constantly in decline since the 1960s due to assimilation with the Rahanweyn and Bantu agricultural communities or through migration to large towns such as Mogadishu where they found employment as butchers. In Mogadishu, before the civil war, the Eyle occupied a large squatter camp beside the grounds of the National University, to the consternation of the university officials who demanded their eviction. The civil war has scattered the few communities that the Eyle had. Abdullahi considers the Eyle an endangered community that would have difficulty in reconstituting its former settlements around the plains of Mount Eyle.” (ibid, p.47)


They have a Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate...Boqortooyada-Qowmiyadda-Eyle-104653987064311/

They are not ancient people. They are a new race created by Maroon Bantus who intermixed with a Cushitic & Hunter-Gatherer population.

They probably have less Ancient Somalia ancestry than ethnic Somalis like it has been shown in the Kenyan Boni.

 

[MI]

They are not ancient people. They are a new race created by Maroon Bantus who intermixed with a Cushitic & Hunter-Gatherer population.

They probably have less Ancient Somalia ancestry than ethnic Somalis like it has been shown in the Kenyan Boni.

Strong sense of deja vu. I think you two have had this discussion. You showed that the Eyle have Bantu paternal lineages, yea?

 

[Apollo]

Strong sense of deja vu. I think you two have had this discussion. You showed that the Eyle have Bantu paternal lineages, yea?

He wants them to be Ancient Somalis so badly, it is pathetic. They are a quarter to half Bantu.

 

[MI]

He wants them to be Ancient Somalis so badly, it is pathetic. They are a quarter to half Bantu.

What a weird agenda lmao

 

[Nilotufian]

The Neanderthal reconstructions are all fake, this is what they actually looked like.

The scream that left my mouth

 

[land owner]

@Apollo which part of somalia did the Somali hunter gatherers reside?

 

[Apollo]

@Apollo which part of somalia did the Somali hunter gatherers reside?

Every region, even in Djibouti.

 

[land owner]

Every region, even in Djibouti.

What type of Africans were they related to?

 

[Apollo]

What type of Africans were they related to?

Other East Africans, but we have no ancient DNA from Somalia. So the distance is not known.

 

[land owner]

Other East Africans, but we have no ancient DNA from Somalia. So the distance is not known.

Do you believe they were closely related to the first humans? Since life started in the horn I would assume that they were