Prominent Mogadishu professor says Siad Barre was the best for Somalia; disses his own clan

[TheAnswer]

Professor Ali Jimale Ahmed, City University of New York

Siad Barre God rest his soul, now, because he was much better than everything that came after him. Seriously, if you think about it, a crazy government is better than no government at times, and better than the chaos and anarchy now

That said, what came after him is unconscionable. Especially because those who overthrew him basically, those who really destroyed that city, came from my clan. Each one wanted to become President—two powerful men said, “I’m the President.” That’s why we are in this mess.

The clan that I come from is one of the largest in Somalia anyway, so they didn’t really need to do any stupid sort of thing. They could control that place until the end of the world, but with justice, with ameliorative qualities, something better than the system that came before. We should really have created a sacred center where all the clans, including the Bantus, could say “Ah, we all belong to this nation.” But that did not happen. Unfortunately, we paid a hefty price. It is really unfortunate. It is really sad.

I think this professor feels really bummed about being born a hawyie

 

[Sheikh]

Professor Ali Jimale Ahmed, City University of New York








I think this professor feels really bummed about being born a hawyie

What a knowledgeable professor. He knows that Jaalle Siad Barre was the greatest President and forefather Somalia ever had period. That treated each Somali with respect.

And yeah I agree this professor really despises his clan. Because they are idiot looters. I bet he wishes to be a landeere man just like us.

 

[CangeeroBear]

He is not a proper professor if he thinks that.Siad destroyed any chance somalia had of rebuilding.

 

[Sheikh]

He is not a proper professor if he thinks that.Siad destroyed any chance somalia had of rebuilding.

Exactly sxb.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Well it was stupid of Hawiye to let Interfighting destroy the city.
They should have taken Somalia into a better situation by overthrowing the regime, installing new dictatorial regime or a new age of democratic proces. Both are better than anarchy.

And the most la'nat falls on Ali Mahdi.

 

[Shaolin23]

Well it was stupid of Hawiye to let Interfighting destroy the city.
They should have taken Somalia into a better situation by overthrowing the regime, installing new dictatorial regime or a new age of democratic proces. Both are better than anarchy.

And the most la'nat falls on Ali Mahdi.

Blaming Ali Mahdi and not the guy who was the real culprit I see what you did there

 

[Gambar]

What a knowledgeable professor. He knows that Jaalle Siad Barre was the greatest President and forefather Somalia ever had period. That treated each Somali with respect.

And yeah I agree this professor really despises his clan. Because they are idiot looters. I bet he wishes to be a landeere man just like us.

The bar is set very low.

 

[Sheikh]

The bar is set very low.

Can you clarify?

 

[Gambar]

Can you clarify?

He said basically anything is better than what we have now and what happened in 1991, like having Siad Barre. Having Siad Barre was the precursor to the mess, many people fled during his reign anyway. Allahu aclam lakiin his ailing health and old age and refusal to step down led to the current mess. It is not something to praise since Somalia right now has nothing. Comparing having something to having nothing is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Sheikh]

He said basically anything is better than what we have now and what happened in 1991, like having Siad Barre. Having Siad Barre was the precursor to the mess, many people fled during his reign anyway. Allahu aclam lakiin his ailing health and old age and refusal to step down led to the current mess. It is not something to praise since Somalia right now has nothing. Comparing having something to having nothing is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

I don't agree with your comment. It's very dull-witted and absurd.

Jaalle Siad Barre AUN was the greatest forefather and Somali/President Somalia ever had.

And if Jaalle Siad Barre were in office after 1991. Our country wouldn't be a mediocre country it is today. And that's the truth!

The real precursors and perpetrators were clan based rebels that were jealous of the greatest Somali President/forefather Jaalle Siad Barre was. They were looters looting the government achievements by Jaalle Siad Barre in 1991. And then they were Somalis up North trying to liberate Northern Somalia to themselves for no reason forgetting about the number 1 Siad Barre loved was Somalinimo. And those people you are referring to as to fled the country in his reign were rich Somalis that had a lot of money so of course they would go to the West and brag about their once perfect country called Somalia. Jaalle Siad Barre was still active despite his age. Look at Donald Trump a 70+ yr old President of the U.S. He's old yet he's the President. So you saying his ''aling health and old age'' is a just an excuse. You are biased sxb. I just debunked you. And why would Jaalle Siad Barre step down? If he was ELECTED in a election to still be the President of Somalia? And his refusal to step down did ''not'' led to this current mess you degenerate! It was jealous clan based rebels/terrorists that led to freaking mess Somalia is in today! It is something to praise. Since Somalia now has a savior in Jaalle Farmaajo to help repair Somalia to what it once was.

 

[Yonis]

This is what you call a woke Hawiye

 

[Sheikh]

This is what you call a woke Hawiye

I'm surprised that he isn't a looter.

 

[Yonis]

I'm surprised that he isn't a looter.

Most of them where looters and are only now finding out destroying civilisation is a much easier than building it. Hawiye and Isaaq are the two greatest cancer that us honourable nation builders had the unfortunate chance of meeting. It would be much better if they were wiped out so we could live peacefully with Dir and Raxanweyne. Their existence is most likely a test from Allah on the resolve of the noble Darood.

 

[LI0N7]

I'm surprised that he isn't a looter.

I'm not interested in all this tribe/clan nonsense, but I read somewhere that one of your esteemed leaders brought(begged) Ethiopian Christian troops into the country much to the dismay of the population. What's even worse is that he brought them to fight against a moderate Islamic force that stabilized and brought Law to the country after a decade of fighting and lawlessness. Is that true? And if so do you blindly support him?

 

[LI0N7]

Most of them where looters and are only now finding out destroying civilisation is a much easier than building it. Hawiye and Isaaq are the two greatest cancer that us honourable nation builders had the unfortunate chance of meeting. It would be much better if they were wiped out so we could live peacefully with Dir and Raxanweyne. Their existence is most likely a test from Allah on the resolve of the noble Darood.

According to sources on his Wikipedia, those two clans you've mentioned have suffered under his rule:

"From the late 1970s, and onwards Barre faced a shrinking popularity and increased domestic resistance. In response, Barre's elite unit, the Red Berets (Duub Cas), and the paramilitary unit called the Victory Pioneers carried out systematic terror against the Majeerteen, Hawiye, and Isaaq clans.[34]The Red Berets systematically smashed water reservoirs to deny water to the Majeerteen and Isaaq clans and their herds. More than 2,000 members of the Majeerteen clan died of thirst, and an estimated 5,000 Isaaq were killed by the government. Members of the Victory Pioneers also raped large numbers of Majeerteen and Isaaq women, and more than 300,000 Isaaq members fled to Ethiopia."

Also many more instances of rape and murder against specific clans. Easy to get it straight from his wiki. How do you praise such a bloodthirsty leader? More importantly how is this professor praising a man whose done this to his own people? He should be fired same way a white professor would be fired for praising hitler.

 

[nine]

Most of them where looters and are only now finding out destroying civilisation is a much easier than building it. Hawiye and Isaaq are the two greatest cancer that us honourable nation builders had the unfortunate chance of meeting. It would be much better if they were wiped out so we could live peacefully with Dir and Raxanweyne. Their existence is most likely a test from Allah on the resolve of the noble Darood.

Which is why I am pro SL independence (only Isaaq territory). For some reason HGs don't like to leave them in peace. What the f*ck were they doing clashing with Dir in Marka? They are a major obstacle to governance.

 

[Sheikh]

I'm not interested in all this tribe/clan nonsense, but I read somewhere that one of your esteemed leaders brought(begged) Ethiopian Christian troops into the country much to the dismay of the population. What's even worse is that he brought them to fight against a moderate Islamic force that stabilized and brought Law to the country after a decade of fighting and lawlessness. Is that true? And if so do you blindly support him?

My favorite leader did not do such thing. He respected the wadaads. It's not true.

 

[nine]

My favorite leader did not do such thing. He respected the wadaads. It's not true.

I think that @LI0N7 is talking about abdullahi yusuf bringing amxaaro to help him fight hawiye.

 

[Sheikh]

I think that @LI0N7 is talking about abilahi yusuf bringing amxaaro to help him fight hawiye.

Oh yeah should had known he was talking about Abdullahi Yusuf.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Blaming Ali Mahdi and not the guy who was the real culprit I see what you did there

How would u feel if u did most of the severe fighting, then some loser usurps the power?

I would be pissed and say:
"Couldnt you wait for us (all groups) to come and talk about the affairs of Somalia

?!"

This is why other jabahaat lost interest and stayed in their tribal regions.