Puntland poet proposes a alliance between Wadaniland and Puntland

[Shaafici]

Bit of a long response so bear with me here.

I think you guys are right on the institutional corruption and the idea of a Jeegaan but it's not really an alliance of clans, more of interests between certain subs and business interests. I always see people saying jegaan like HJ and HA have a reason to team up but it's not true.

For example some Habar Awal clans have been screwed by Jegaanta like Ciise Musse in Berbera iyo Jibril Abokor in Gabiley. And some HY clans like Ishaaq have been eating good (Think Ali Warancade and his crew) under Kulmiye. Its not as clear cut as HA+HJ vs HY or whatever. Ask an Ciise Musse who they prefer to live with them in Berbera between HY and HJ after the recent Dahabshiil shenaagians, you and I both know the answer won't be HJ.

Jeegaanta is more of an alliance between some Hargeisa clans and business operatives friendly with Diigshiiil and reer east Burco (HJ) if we're being honest.

I agree the eastern regions have been neglected though. Siilanyo had 8 years and he did jack shit.

Even the ministerial allocation that ina Bihi government has is unfair to HY, as HJ got more ministers than HY and SM combined which is pure lunacy.

The answer is more regional admins in Hargeisa region, no need to have one district in a city of more than 1.5 million people. It should become a special city status like Xamar with regional rep in SL parliament.

Sacad Musse, Cisse Musse, Ciidagale iyo HY should all get new city level regions in Maroodi Jeex.

The SL project lasted for 20 +years peacefully and successfully, so let's not destroy the hard work of the SL public over meaningless election results.

Fair analysis

 

[Shaafici]

To all my GX brothers don't be so naive to believe that in a hypothetical scenario where puntland carries out a campaign to retake Darod lands in sool that they will say Salam alaykum to the GX living there, and the GX would hug them despite knowing that they are at war with Somaliland (under Jeegaanland, the Somaliland army remains the same), GX would go the furthest to engage the Darod the last significant tribal battle was in the early 20th century when this native American looking Xaaji Waraabe and 5,000 GX horseman launched a war on the darod.

 

[BenInHer]

And the hargeisa government is calling on all Isaaqs and enemy clans (dhulos, and warsans) to fight Puntland, what's your point?

You keep comparing Mj's, a sub sub clan of Darood to the whole of Isaaq clan. That's a bit embarrassing don't you think.

Fake news, no Warsangeli would fight Puntland under isaaq order....

Your reaching has hit a new low

 

[Weydamal]

To all my GX brothers don't be so naive to believe that in a hypothetical scenario where puntland carries out a campaign to retake Darod lands in sool that they will say Salam alaykum to the GX living there, and the GX would hug them despite knowing that they are at war with Somaliland (under Jeegaanland, the Somaliland army remains the same), GX would go the furthest to engage the Darod the last significant tribal battle was in the early 20th century when this native American looking Xaaji Waraabe and 5,000 GX horseman launched a war on the darod.

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He was not native American looking. He was a Yemenite Jew. This was how they wore their locks during that time as you can see from the above pic.Some still do wear it that way today.

 

[Bohol]

@Shaafici That is not Haji the Hyena but a photoshopped picture. The Dervish era was not exactly a tribal war. GX had high ranking members on both sides in the Dervish side we
had Sultan Nuur, Taminlaaye and the British side Haji the Hyena, Risaaldr Muusa Haji Farah etc. In the end the group who were anti Mad Mullah won.

 

[Bohol]

Exactly.

We see it as laba maamul oo is dagaalaya.

Absolutely.

 

[whitehartlane]

Puntland is a Somali loving state you will only know that when u visit puntland and you are not treated any different then the next man..Hawiye isaaq raxanweyne Madow get exactly the same treatment in the land of punt.

We have no deep political beef with isaaq in general. As a matter of fact I can confidently say that puntland shared economy with isaaq is quickly catching up with our trading levels of the South.

However, harti lands are harti lands, any isaaq who wants to fight harti for harti lands will be seen as an aggressor.

Wadaniland people don't care about hartilands so we don't care about them either..

anybody that says all isaaq or the wider region such as reer awdal are the same in the eyes of puntland are very much mistaken.. it's just the Jeegaanta and the dhulbahante bastards that are being breastfed by them that will get bullets in the between the eyes when this war starts. ..

 

[Shaafici]

@Shaafici That is not Haji the Hyena but a photoshopped picture. The Dervish era was not exactly a tribal war. GX had high ranking members on both sides in the Dervish side we
had Sultan Nuur, Taminlaaye and the British side Haji the Hyena, Risaaldr Muusa Haji Farah etc. In the end the group who were anti Mad Mullah won.

I'm sure that's him it's not photoshop, I came across scan from a book written in the 20s that had this pic and a pic of a OG suldaan im aware HJ and HY bari were in the ranks of the Dervish, but prominent HY poets like cali jaamac haabil stopped GX from joining him, I think it was 1898 when the sayyid captured burco and made a address to the GX there.

 

[Bohol]

I'm sure that's him it's not photoshop, I came across scan from a book written in the 20s that had this pic and a pic of a OG suldaan im aware HJ and HY bari were in the ranks of the Dervish, but prominent HY poets like cali jaamac haabil stopped GX from joining him, I think it was 1898 when the sayyid captured burco and made a address to the GX there.

kkkk sheegato alert since when did Cali Jaamac Haabil became HY? he was Cisse Muuse/HA. A lot of heavyweight HY poets such as Gabay Xoog (SY/HY) were pro Dervish.

Cali Jaamac Haabil
http://www.hoygasuugaanta.com/Baroordiiq.htm

 

[Abdalla]

Wallaahi i heard one of jeegaanlanders calaacaling about "maamulka maxamuud saleebaan" They dont even realize it, laandheere level over 9000 wallaahi

Majeerteen is lineage wise equivalent to Muuse Sacad of Habar Awal. Can you imagine Muuse Sacad taking a seat amongst Somalis and deal with them as a Muuse Sacad

 

[Adam Isaaq]

Majeerteen is lineage wise equivalent to Muuse Sacad of Habar Awal. Can you imagine Muuse Sacad taking a seat amongst Somalis and deal with them as a Muuse Sacad

1. Issaq as a whole is younger than Darod as a confederation. (Darod was active 300 years earlier)
2. Sacaad Muse does deal with Somalia as a whole. Who do you think runs Somaliland's army, politics and business?

 

[CangeeroBear]

And the hargeisa government is calling on all Isaaqs and enemy clans (dhulos, and warsans) to fight Puntland, what's your point?

You keep comparing Mj's, a sub sub clan of Darood to the whole of Isaaq clan. That's a bit embarrassing don't you think.

Warsans don't fight for somaliland , vast majority hate somaliland.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Majeerteen is lineage wise equivalent to Muuse Sacad of Habar Awal. Can you imagine Muuse Sacad taking a seat amongst Somalis and deal with them as a Muuse Sacad

What the f*ck is Muuse Sacad?

 

[TOGAHERER]

More MJ baaxbaax hadaal only that's all they have.

Bosaso is like 150 to 200 k. All puntlland is less then a million and a half. That's the population of hargeisa.

Insigificant people...

 

[Weydamal]

kkkk sheegato alert since when did Cali Jaamac Haabil became HY? he was Cisse Muuse/HA. A lot of heavyweight HY poets such as Gabay Xoog (SY/HY) were pro Dervish.

Cali Jaamac Haabil
http://www.hoygasuugaanta.com/Baroordiiq.htm

Sxb you're busted! Every Northerner knows who Cali Jaamac Haabiil was. You can now go back to repping Jeegaanland.

 

[waranlee]

Fake news, no Warsangeli would fight Puntland under isaaq order....

Your reaching has hit a new low

I said that that Somaliland claims warsangali as being part of Somaliland and is calling on them to fight for Somaliland. I never said the warsans would indeed fight for them, don't try to strawman me

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

kkkk sheegato alert since when did Cali Jaamac Haabil became HY? he was Cisse Muuse/HA. A lot of heavyweight HY poets such as Gabay Xoog (SY/HY) were pro Dervish.

Cali Jaamac Haabil
http://www.hoygasuugaanta.com/Baroordiiq.htm

This is the guy calling me a Sheegato.

Probably some Habar Uunsi

 

[BenInHer]

And the hargeisa government is calling on all Isaaqs and enemy clans (dhulos, and warsans) to fight Puntland, what's your point?

[QUOTE="waranlee, post: 978015, member: 2316"]I said that that Somaliland claims warsangali as being part of Somaliland and is calling on them to fight for Somaliland. I never said the warsans would indeed fight for them, don't try to strawman me[/QUOTE]

which is it "claiming" or "calling" by "Calling", on your first post would imply warsangelis are in Somaliland army and would die for "Somaliland"

Now that you been spotted, you're backpedaling by saying its "claiming" just to save face.

 

[Abdalla]

1. Issaq as a whole is younger than Darod as a confederation. (Darod was active 300 years earlier)
2. Sacaad Muse does deal with Somalia as a whole. Who do you think runs Somaliland's army, politics and business?

So? majeerteen is much younger than the habar subclans of Isaaq, yet we have more influence. You have no place at the men's table.

What the f*ck is Muuse Sacad?

Apparently they're called sacad muuse and not muuse sacad.

 

[Adam Isaaq]

So? majeerteen is much younger than the habar subclans of Isaaq, yet we have more influence. You have no place at the men's table.



Apparently they're called sacad muuse and not muuse sacad.

No, that is not the point, the point is that MJ is older than the Habar subclans. Also, you will have no place once the natural alliance between USC and SNM is restored. You are trapped in a pincer.