Puntland Presidential elections In 1 year

[DesertStorm]

Are you sure gaas is omar mahamud? I know he's from galkayco

I'm sure he is. Isnt he? I'm confused now.

 

[Duchess]

We can't genuinely verbalize Puntland belongs to all. If we are going to re elect the same group of people. Is time we let someone else run the country and visually perceive what they can bring on the table.

Every Prime Minister of Canada has been white, yet it is one of the most multiethnic & multicultural countries in the world. Majority rules. It's the way the world works.

No one has stopped other clans in Puntland from running for the top positions and no one has stopped them from forming alliances and electing a non-Mohamud Saleeban. MS should not be scapegoated for the lack of ambition of others nor should they be forced to take the backseat to others simply because of their clan. How do you expect Puntland to move on from clan-based elections when you want to promote people simply because of their clans? Support people based on their political platform, not their abtirsi.

 

[DesertStorm]

Every Prime Minister of Canada has been white, yet it is one of the most multiethnic & multicultural countries in the world. Majority rules. It's the way the world works.

No one has stopped other clans in Puntland from running for the top positions and no one has stopped them from forming alliances and electing a non-Mohamud Saleeban. MS should not be scapegoated for the lack of ambition of others nor should they be forced to take the backseat to others simply because of their clan. How do you expect Puntland to move on from clan-based elections when you want to promote people simply because of their clans? Support people based on their political platform, not their abtirsi.

Walaalo we both know how these men were chosen. Not for their merits and what they have done in the past. Lacag baa meesha ka hadasha and who you can influence. Maxaamuud Saleeban baan ahay anigu and I'm telling you is time we gave others chance. Haven't we been promoting people based on their clan past 18 years? All I said was let's give others chance.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Insha Allah president Abdiweli Gaas will be given 2 more years so he can take Puntland to one man one vote.

 

[Duchess]

Walaalo we both know how these men were chosen. Not for their merits and what they have done in the past. Lacag baa meesha ka hadasha and who you can influence. Maxaamuud Saleeban baan ahay anigu and I'm telling you is time we gave others chance. Haven't we been promoting people based on their clan past 18 years? All I said was let's give others chance.

Do you not know that Gaas won by one vote? He wasn't elected because of clan but because of what people thought he could bring to the table ( development).

I think it's a simplistic break down of Puntland's history to look at our list of President's and conclude that because they share an abtiris, they must have all gained their position because of their clan. That isn't true. Abdullahi Yusuf ( aun) was the founding father of Puntland, did he become President because of his clan or based on his background? Was it because he sacrificed blood, sweat and tears for Puntland or simply because he was Omar Mohamud? Take a look at Puntland's history and ask yourself why Puntland transitioned away from men with a military background to academics in 2009. Could that have been because our vision for Somalia ( federalism) had been solidified?

We see what we want to see. You look at Puntland's history and see the Mohamud Saleeban Boogeyman, I look at our history and see progress and development. I will not support the impediment of that progress or the scapegoating of another clan just to give some others an ego boost. Let them bring a viable candidate to the table and then we can talk, but 'as long as he's not Mohamud Saleeban' is not going to work for me.

 

[Duchess]

Insha Allah president Abdiweli Gaas will be given 2 more years so he can take Puntland to one man one vote.

Gaas has shown he is incapable of doing that. He should not be given an extension at all.

 

[DesertStorm]

Do you not know that Gaas won by one vote? He wasn't elected because of clan but because of what people thought he could bring to the table ( development).

I think it's a simplistic break down of Puntland's history to look at our list of President's and conclude that because they share an abtiris, they must have all gained their position because of their clan. That isn't true. Abdullahi Yusuf ( aun) was the founding father of Puntland, did he become President because of his clan or based on his background? Was it because he sacrificed blood, sweat and tears for Puntland or simply because he was Omar Mohamud? Take a look at Puntland's history and ask yourself why Puntland transitioned away from men with a military background to academics in 2009. Could that have been because our vision for Somalia ( federalism) had been solidified?

We see what we want to see. You look at Puntland's history and see the Mohamud Saleeban Boogeyman, I look at our history and see progress and development. I will not support the impediment of that progress or the scapegoating of another clan just to give some others an ego boost. Let them bring a viable candidate to the table and then we can talk, but 'as long as he's not Mohamud Saleeban' is not going to work for me.

AUN Abdillahi Yusuf and Cade muse waxii ka danbeeyay haba iisoo hadal qaadin. Looooooooooooooooooool@Mohamud Saleeban Boogeyman. Let's just agree to disagree baayo. What I said will still remain the same. Unless I see change in Puntland.

 

[Abdalla]

The day a non-MJ is elected is the day I weep for Puntland. I don't trust others. The dhulbahante VP already sided with Farmaajo over Abdiweli before he was reminded who he was

 

[BirtaanJabin]

The thing is It shouldn't matter who the President hails from it should Be about who's more equiped for the job

Cabdiweli said "Hadii aan Puntland 1man1Vote Gaadhsiin waayo Reer Puntlandow ogaada inuu xukumaday fashilantay

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@Yusra Luuza how didn't you know Cbdiweli was CumarMxmd

 

[Duchess]

AUN Abdillahi Yusuf and Cade muse waxii ka danbeeyay haba iisoo hadal qaadin. Looooooooooooooooooool@Mohamud Saleeban Boogeyman. Let's just agree to disagree baayo. What I said will still remain the same. Unless I see change in Puntland.

Do you know how many votes Mohamud Saleeban have in the parliament? It's non-MS who are voting them in.

The change you want to see is a minority face to make people feel better about Puntland. It's not progress or development in any facet, but qabil musical chairs. That isn't positive change but dragging Puntland into a dark hole that it will have a hard time climbing out of. One term will not satisfy them but 20 years of non-Mohamud Saleeban leadership.

Like I said, let them present a viable alternative. Someone with the necessary background to gain the trust of all Puntlanders. Everyone would support that but expecting someone to be elected simply because they're not Mohamud Saleeban is ridiculous and it won't happen.

 

[whitehartlane]

AUN Abdillahi Yusuf and Cade muse waxii ka danbeeyay haba iisoo hadal qaadin. Looooooooooooooooooool@Mohamud Saleeban Boogeyman. Let's just agree to disagree baayo. What I said will still remain the same. Unless I see change in Puntland.

I am sorry but I disagree with that..

Cabdulahi yusuf aun is the founding father and has a special status ...

However the second best president has to be faroole..very straight forward man..he is the one that put puntland in the eyes of the world..prior to him it was Somaliland and the failed state otherwise known as SOMALIA..faroole cut puntland out of that failed state attachment not only that but he also forced federalism and brought it home and he had also a major roll in the creation of jubaland..

Unlike the current president I knew where puntland was in the eyes of faroole and his priorities were widely known..gaas is cumar max like I am but I don' trust that man ..he comes accros as someone who has 3rd party agenda and I feel at times that puntlands political influence in the shaping of Somali future is not in his plans..

Never mind cadde muuse he was a mayor at best...

Further more I don' know about political parties ..I actually like the current setup it' a lot less tribalism..

In a nutshell I also agree with daljacel in not having a fourth mj as a president eventhough right now I don't see anyone outside mj that has what it takes to lead this great nation...

I do have a soft spot for Camey and I believe he can be a great statesman..I just feel that it would be wrong and unfair to other loyal citizens to choose a president that is from a community that are not so loyal..

Any promising leelkase warsengeli dashishle that we know about?

 

[BirtaanJabin]

I am sorry but I disagree with that..

Cabdulahi yusuf aun is the founding father and has a special status ...

However the second best president has to be faroole..very straight forward man..he is the one that put puntland in the eyes of the world..prior to him it was Somaliland and the failed state otherwise known as SOMALIA..faroole cut puntland out of that failed state attachment not only that but he also forced federalism and brought it home and he had also a major roll in the creation of jubaland..

Unlike the current president I knew where puntland was in the eyes of faroole and his priorities were widely known..gaas is cumar max like I am but I don' trust that man ..he comes accros as someone who has 3rd party agenda and I feel at times that puntlands political influence in the shaping of Somali future is not in his plans..

Never mind cadde muuse he was a mayor at best...

Further more I don' know about political parties ..I actually like the current setup it' a lot less tribalism..

In a nutshell I also agree with daljacel in not having a fourth mj as a president eventhough right now I don't see anyone outside mj that has what it takes to lead this great nation...

I do have a soft spot for Camey and I believe he can be a great statesman..I just feel that it would be wrong and unfair to other loyal citizens to choose a president that is from a community that are not so loyal..

Any promising leelkase warsengeli dashishle that we know about?

Although i rather see a non MJ on the seat the problem is MJs and dashishle and Awrtable are diehard and people like camey always side against Puntland when the dowlad says

 

[Tywin Mejerteen]

lol I remeber gaas winning the election while I was in garowe

I was staying with family who were pretty important folks

Anyways I knew before hand that haji warsame was sending his votes to gaas

So me and a couple homies drove around bumping the gaas song that had just dropped “taage taage cabduwilli something something”
Millions of rocks were being thrown at the car

Good times

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[Tywin Mejerteen]

Anyways faroole 2018

 

[BirtaanJabin]

lol I remeber gaas winning the election while I was in garowe

I was staying with family who were pretty important folks

Anyways I knew before hand that haji warsame was sending his votes to gaas

So me and a couple homies drove around bumping the gaas song that had just dropped “taage taage cabduwilli something something”
Millions of rocks were being thrown at the car

Good times

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LOL that song was rude

*Wax ma tare aan kuu turin, danta guud ku tuntaa tacabkaga ka gurta afkuu taagay talinwaa* I think that's how it went that song bashed farole

 

[Duchess]

I am sorry but I disagree with that..

Cabdulahi yusuf aun is the founding father and has a special status ...

However the second best president has to be faroole..very straight forward man..he is the one that put puntland in the eyes of the world..prior to him it was Somaliland and the failed state otherwise known as SOMALIA..faroole cut puntland out of that failed state attachment not only that but he also forced federalism and brought it home and he had also a major roll in the creation of jubaland..

Unlike the current president I knew where puntland was in the eyes of faroole and his priorities were widely known..gaas is cumar max like I am but I don' trust that man ..he comes accros as someone who has 3rd party agenda and I feel at times that puntlands political influence in the shaping of Somali future is not in his plans..

Never mind cadde muuse he was a mayor at best...

Further more I don' know about political parties ..I actually like the current setup it' a lot less tribalism..

In a nutshell I also agree with daljacel in not having a fourth mj as a president eventhough right now I don't see anyone outside mj that has what it takes to lead this great nation...

I do have a soft spot for Camey and I believe he can be a great statesman..I just feel that it would be wrong and unfair to other loyal citizens to choose a president that is from a community that are not so loyal..

Any promising leelkase warsengeli dashishle that we know about?

This is what I meant. Are there any viable candidates from these communities? We need names. I supported Faroole against Gaas, even though my subclan was against Faroole. I supported Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) against Jama Ali Jama, even though the latter is from my clan. I thought Adde Muse ( aun) was a weak President, even though he is from my subclan. Some can't look beyond Mohamud Saleeban and it's unfortunate that some MS themselves are now buying into this propaganda when it's non-MS who are electing these men.

 

[BirtaanJabin]

This is what I meant. Are there any viable candidates from these communities? We need names. I supported Faroole against Gaas, even though my subclan was against Faroole. I supported Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) against Jama Ali Jama, even though the latter is from my clan. I thought Adde Muse ( aun) was a weak President, even though he is from my subclan. Some can't look beyond Mohamud Saleeban and it's unfortunate that some MS themselves are now buying into this propaganda when it's non-MS who are electing these men.

I disagree that Cade muuse was weak he led his army to war with him being in the first tekniko, But he didn't have his priorites straight Oh Allah Bless our Presidents

 

[DesertStorm]

Do you know how many votes Mohamud Saleeban have in the parliament? It's non-MS who are voting them in.

The change you want to see is a minority face to make people feel better about Puntland. It's not progress or development in any facet, but qabil musical chairs. That isn't positive change but dragging Puntland into a dark hole that it will have a hard time climbing out of. One term will not satisfy them but 20 years of non-Mohamud Saleeban leadership.

Like I said, let them present a viable alternative. Someone with the necessary background to gain the trust of all Puntlanders. Everyone would support that but expecting someone to be elected simply because they're not Mohamud Saleeban is ridiculous and it won't happen.

I want someone who will move us forward. You and I are on the same page walaalo so there is no point going around in circle. I never said we should elect someone because they are minority. I want us to give others a fare share and only way it'll happen is through 1man1vote.

"Like I said, let them present a viable alternative. Someone with the necessary background to gain the trust of all Puntlanders. " This I agree with.

 

[Duchess]

I disagree that Cade muuse was weak he led his army to war with him being in the first tekniko, But he didn't have his priorites straight Oh Allah Bless our Presidents

Out of all the President's Puntland has had, Cadde (aun) was the weakest politically and security wise.

 

[BirtaanJabin]

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