Puntland Rich Somali History

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using video games now?

Exactly, it’s to show you that you and I have no say in this. Millions of people accros the globe are playing it and getting taught indirectly. Social media is doing its job. The software developers have accessed the relevant sources and knew Amir Nur was Karanle and a close relative Imam Ahmed . There are no hararge traditions of Amir Nur they are MX Somali traditions which is as real as their spirits Yaxye and Moorif kkkk. Also, Amir Nur has a brother and father mentioned in the Futuh which MX traditions do not mention. They don't know his family it is clear Hotepism whereas the Karanle have no relations to the studies done on them the books say Karanle not the other way around.

 

[killerxsmoke]

Beesha amiir nuur of “Jubaland”

Proceeds to send me a video of elders chilling in Jubuland from a Marexaan news outlet . Then goes to ignore the Harari and Amhara scholars whom have access to manuscripts from the time of Ifat .

Like I said you don’t belong in Harar. Your unknown. You will get laughed at the same way I would get laughed at if I claimed Cabudwaaq today.

a harar man

 

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a harar man
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Paulitschke who met Rer Ibrahim in the 19th century and said they were the first Somalis in the land (Harar) and are the most important of people.

 

[Dima&Damo]

Adal iyo ajuraan waa hawiya

 

[LEThimCOOK]

Exactly, it’s to show you that you and I have no say in this. Millions of people accros the globe are playing it and getting taught indirectly. Social media is doing its job. The software developers have accessed the relevant sources and knew Amir Nur was Karanle and a close relative Imam Ahmed . There are no hararge traditions of Amir Nur they are MX Somali traditions which is as real as their spirits Yaxye and Moorif kkkk. Also, Amir Nur has a brother and father mentioned in the Futuh which MX traditions do not mention. They don't know his family it is clear Hotepism whereas the Karanle have no relations to the studies done on them the books say Karanle not the other way around.

Hundreds of thousands of people who do abtirisi to Ina Nuur is enough proof for any ordinary Somali, just stick to claiming the Ajuran Somali influence even though we all know they aren’t really Hawiye

 

[LEThimCOOK]

Adal iyo ajuraan waa hawiya

 

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Hundreds of thousands of people who do abtirisi to Ina Nuur is enough proof for any ordinary Somali, just stick to claiming the Ajuran Somali influence even though we all know they aren’t really Hawiye

Abtirsi is useless if it’s not backed by historical records. Majority of the kings of Adal were Karanle Hawiye and this is backed by Amhara and Harari ulema alike.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Abtirsi is useless if it’s not backed by historical records. Majority of the kings of Adal were Karanle Hawiye and this is backed by Amhara and Harari ulema alike.

Your getting desperate copy/paste all day u want their is nowhere somalis who were apart of adal nor harari has given u any recognition, ur self declared historical looter. I stopped myself becuz my 'abti links' to u but ur pushing the limit now of ppl intelligence-reason. Cut n Paste all the books u want no-one acknowledges it but only you, in academia they have to be acknowledged by peer reviews on any research not 1 academic said this u xoolo have u been to UNI, govts have to recognize govts also.

 

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Your getting desperate copy/paste all day u want their is nowhere somalis who were apart of adal nor harari has given u any recognition, ur self declared historical looter. I stopped myself becuz my 'abti links' to u but ur pushing the limit now of ppl intelligence-reason. Cut n Paste all the books u want no-one acknowledges it but only you, in academia they have to be acknowledged by peer reviews on any research not 1 academic said this u xoolo have u been to UNI, govts have to recognize govts also.

The thing is us Karanle never wrote or participated with the extensive research done on us. People mentioned us in their books like the most famous and widely read Public Historian of Ethiopia, former Minister of Education, Arts & Culture and Dean of the National Library under Haile Selassie, Takla Sadiq Mekuria, author of the "History of Ethiopia; Nubia, Aksum, Zagoe till the Time of the Reign of Aşe Yækunno Amlak", had state devoted a 950-page book in 1961 to the life and times of Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (known as Ahmed Gurey or Mohamed Gragne, the Atilla of Africa and the King of Zeila) as well as the history of the elite core family-unit of the Malassay Army in his rough monograph on the Gragn Wars called "Ya Gragn Warara" (The Conquests of Gragn), in it he draws on the evidence from Arab Faqih Sihab Uddin and the chronicles of Sarsa-Dengel. Through the mediation of Dagazmac Wargnah he interviewed Ahmed Ali Shami, the most senior authoritative scholar of Harar to have produced the concise manuscript history of Harar (in his Fatah Madinat Harar manuscript) for several European institutions and provides the only extensive family tree and genealogical known tradition of 8 generations of the father and relatives of Gragne's lineage from the Karanle Hawiye branch with his mother stated to be of the ethnic Harla. This is also found in the Aussa chronicles and books authored by Manfred Kropp, Layla Sabaq and Berhanu Kamal and others. Gragne's wife was also the daughter of Emir Mahfuz, an important relative.

 

[LEThimCOOK]

Abtirsi is useless if it’s not backed by historical records. Majority of the kings of Adal were Karanle Hawiye and this is backed by Amhara and Harari ulema alike.

Abtirsi is our oral tradition, it’s the only logical explanation we have for any event that took place in the past. This is our way of life, Amir Nuurs offspring are well documented, they number in the thousands, and every Darood/Dir know who they are. This is the only qabiil who’s forefather is documented throughout history and we know he actually existed. Amhara documents won’t save you

 

[geeljre49]

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Abtirsi is our oral tradition, it’s the only logical explanation we have for any event that took place in the past. This is our way of life, Amir Nuurs offspring are well documented, they number in the thousands, and every Darood/Dir know who they are. This is the only qabiil who’s forefather is documented throughout history and we know he actually existed. Amhara documents won’t save you

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[LEThimCOOK]

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Well no Somali scholar or historian has ever disputed the Amirs origin, this is actually the first time I’ve seen someone do it

 

[geeljre49]

Well no Somali scholar or historian has ever disputed the Amirs origin, this is actually the first time I’ve seen someone do it

The amir existed that’s a fact for sure

 

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Well no Somali scholar or historian has ever disputed the Amirs origin, this is actually the first time I’ve seen someone do it

Amirs origin kulaha . Tell me which scholar said Amiir Nur is Marexaan.

13 confirmed Karanle rulers on this list. They are rulers number 30, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 47, 49, 52 and 53. Those are rulers of Harar partly under Adal at times and partly an independent emirate. Since 1471, Gragns awoowe and his relative Mahfuz were two lineages among Karanle who took power in Adal. The last one on the list would eventually establish the Aussa Imamate after Adal’s collapse.

Imams of Aussa were all karanle and direct cousins and nephews of imam Axmed who relocated the capital from Harar to Aussa. The last leader was the Issa Garaad. The waziirs of Harar similarly mostly all Karanle.


Thia Djiboutian Ciise brother who accessed the Afar chronicles will tell you that after Adal the Awssa Imamate was Gasa the last one on the list above

 

[LEThimCOOK]

Amirs origin kulaha . Tell me which scholar said Amiir Nur is Marexaan.

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13 confirmed Karanle rulers on this list. They are rulers number 30, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 47, 49, 52 and 53. Those are rulers of Harar partly under Adal at times and partly an independent emirate. Since 1471, Gragns awoowe and his relative Mahfuz were two lineages among Karanle who took power in Adal. The last one on the list would eventually establish the Aussa Imamate after Adal’s collapse.

Imams of Aussa were all karanle and direct cousins and nephews of imam Axmed who relocated the capital from Harar to Aussa. The last leader was the Issa Garaad. The waziirs of Harar similarly mostly all Karanle.


Thia Djiboutian Ciise brother who accessed the Afar chronicles will tell you that after Adal the Awssa Imamate was Gasa the last one on the list above


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Fabricated documents and twitter threads won’t change anything, if you visit the Amirs chamber it’s actually his direct decedents (Ina Nuur) who guard this tomb. It’s been that way since he was buried there.

 

[Dima&Damo]

Fabricated documents and twitter threads won’t change anything, if you visit the Amirs chamber it’s actually his direct decedents (Ina Nuur) who guard this tomb. It’s been that way since he was buried there.

Dude has game maps to go on.

Imagine muslims being led by men from a tribe called hawiya the lowest level in hell the arabs would not have joined the war

 

[killerxsmoke]

Amirs origin kulaha . Tell me which scholar said Amiir Nur is Marexaan.

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13 confirmed Karanle rulers on this list. They are rulers number 30, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 47, 49, 52 and 53. Those are rulers of Harar partly under Adal at times and partly an independent emirate. Since 1471, Gragns awoowe and his relative Mahfuz were two lineages among Karanle who took power in Adal. The last one on the list would eventually establish the Aussa Imamate after Adal’s collapse.

Imams of Aussa were all karanle and direct cousins and nephews of imam Axmed who relocated the capital from Harar to Aussa. The last leader was the Issa Garaad. The waziirs of Harar similarly mostly all Karanle.


Thia Djiboutian Ciise brother who accessed the Afar chronicles will tell you that after Adal the Awssa Imamate was Gasa the last one on the list above


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Bro that mr.insanity twitter account belongs to me

 

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Fabricated documents and twitter threads won’t change anything, if you visit the Amirs chamber it’s actually his direct decedents (Ina Nuur) who guard this tomb. It’s been that way since he was buried there.

There is no Marexan Ina Nur of Harar. There is however Karanle and Gadbursi Ina Nur nearby. Your unknown in Harar. There are no historical records suggesting MX ever had any relationship with us. We didn’t marry out. The nobility was kept within the family and they took it to Awssa. That’s what the twitter post was therefore but here are some passages of the chronicles. As you can see the awssa was continuation. No Marexaan

 

[killerxsmoke]

Dude has game maps to go on.

Imagine muslims being led by men from a tribe called hawiya the lowest level in hell the arabs would not have joined the war

Imagine being led by people that are known for being primitive

 

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Dude has game maps to go on.

Imagine muslims being led by men from a tribe called hawiya the lowest level in hell the arabs would not have joined the war

Truth hurts but you was always led by Hawiye when it comes to Harar.