Random Somaliland political discussions

[Farjano-Walad]

Isaaqs come in, is this claim true?

what did the warlord of Djibouti give to farmajo in order for him to sign away the sea space of North Somalia Region?

 

[486th President]

Farmaajo is a cuck if this is true... actually, I swear I called this a while ago?

So if this is true I’m a true OG lol

Not surprising though Farmaajo is both predictable and unpredictable at the same time

 

[Bakuro559]

Below is an an op-ed from the Somaliland Sun

"Somalilandsun: President Bihi and his ministers seem to think that Djibouti dictator, Omar Guelleh, is our friend. But many Somalilanders do not agree, especially those who live in Gabiley and Guban areas. Guelleh’s agenda includes control of Somaliland through its corrupt, greedy politicians and merchants such as the Minister of Water, Mr. Mohamed Muse Dirie. We must stay alert of Guelleh’s deception. We must replace the Kulmiye sheep with people who love our country and can stand up to Guelleh.

Guelleh is a despicable human being, hypocrite, and a coward. The only language he understands is force.

Anyone suggesting that other countries can learn from Djibouti or emulate it is delusional. Djibouti is not a free country. Djibouti has had only two presidents since its independence in 1977. Both are Masaasan of the Issa Clan. In fact, Mr. Guelleh was a handpicked successor of his uncle, Hassan Guleid Aptidon, the first president of Djibouti.

According to the State Department report, Guelleh’s regime committed serious human rights abuses, including “unlawful killings, torture, harsh prison conditions; restrictions on freedom of assembly and association; restrictions on freedom of the press; corruption, drug and human trafficking.”

But those who want to become a dictator or admire dictatorship are taking a cue from Guelleh on how he made Djibouti a police state—where dissent or basic disagreement with him are dealt with harsh treatment or even killings. Most of its youth have been fleeing in droves and are claiming to be Somali refugees in Europe and North America.

Like Arab or African dictators, Guelleh’s smiling, avuncular face is all over scores of billboards across the capital’s dirty streets. But Djibouti state provides little or no services to its citizens who mostly live-in abject poverty -in a harsh hot, humid environment. They Lack access to clean water for hygiene or a place where women could deliver babies.

While Guelleh and his family, including his Ivorian Coast son-in-law accumulated wealth by robbing foreign aid and money from the leases of foreign bases.

Guelleh fears a free, democratic Somaliland from becoming the economic and logistics hub of the Horn of Africa. He is doing whatever it takes to make Somaliland fail, let alone allow people to thrive and live-in peace.

This week, there are unconfirmed reports that the Bihi administration has approved a plan for Djibouti to receive its water supply from Somaliland’s underground aquifers in western part of the country. If this report is true, this is dangerous and must be stopped or else we might not even have our country soon because greedy politicians are selling Somaliland piece by piece, including our precious natural resource—water.

During a stop of his tour in Guban area on his way back from Djibouti, President Bihi said, “Djibouti is helping Somaliland develop a salt plant in Toqoshi near Djibouti’s border and a port in Zeila.”

Does Djibouti have the know-how or the resources to execute such complex projects? I think this a pipe dream, more likely, Guelleh will bring in the Chinese to take over the western Somaliland coast because most of Djibouti’s 2 billion debt is owned by China’s Import and Export Bank.

But how could Somaliland supply water to Djibouti when most of its people lack basic drinking water? This is ridiculous.

For example, in Hargeisa, the capital city, the majority of the city’s near one million residents have no access to piped water. The rest of the country also have water scarcity. For many, getting water is a daily struggle: those who are lucky enough to get water must walk long distances to fetch clean water. In some areas of the city, expensive hotels, and hospitals are without running water, so they must rely on water tankers for the delivery of water. People are not getting enough water to cook food, take showers, or even wash clothes.

Access to clean water in Somaliland is a luxury. The last thing Somaliland people need is corrupt politicians selling our precious resources to a dictator who hates us. This charade must stop.

Bihi was not the first president to appease Guelleh. Riyaale, Silanyo, and even Egal did the same or even worse. They conducted a weak foreign policy against Guelleh. But the worst damage was done by Egal and then his Interior Ministry Bihi. We paid a heavy price in terms of human cost to liberate the Guban region from a ruthless dictator, Siad Barre in the 1990’s.

In fact, when he was the Interior Minister, Bihi was responsible for removing SNM militias from the Guban region after pressure from the Djibouti regime in 1999. And now, as the president of Somaliland, under backroom deals, Bihi is giving away Guban region to the Djiboutian dictator, a man who he admires

For the last three decades, Somaliland leaders’ fruitless appeasing of Guelleh, has invited more brazen aggressiveness demonstrated by the de- facto Djibouti control of the western Guban region.

If President Bihi has agreed to all those deals unknowingly, he is incompetent; if not, he is neglecting his duty to protect Somaliland interest.

What will it take for our leaders to stop Guelleh’s Somaliland encroachment?

If Somaliland leaders fail to protect the country, it is time for communities to organize themselves by any means to fight Guelleh and his enablers in Hargeisa and Mogadishu. We cannot call on the legendary Geedi Haame’s cavalry for help, who had protected Guban region communities gallantly from banditry. We must stand up to Guelleh’s Somaliland encroachment before it is too late."

https://www.somalilandsun.com/somaliland-we-must-stop-encroachment-by-djiboutis-president-guelleh/

To all my fellow landers, im curious on your opinion on this, is what being said here true or is this highly exaggerated?

Ignore it, this is a highly exaggerated oped by the salty Habar Awal clan who are angry they're completely sidelined in the Guban region. The Djibouti Minister of Water is Samaroon-Mahadcase who originally hails from Lughaya and was the one who signed the deal.

A fishing port for the people of Zeila and a salt factory will be built, in exchange Djibouti will have access to Western Awdal's water reserves.

 

[SomaliMVP]

Show me the map. What has changed?

 

[Distant1]

He wants to reduce state autonomy.

Do marexan have dictatorial tendencies?

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

He wants to reduce state autonomy.

Do marexan have dictatorial tendencies?

Two former presidents from the same Abgaal clan who both had extensions are running to become president again and both are threatening violent coup against Farmaajo who was democratically elected and has popular support even to this day.

who is the dictator

 

[FBIsomalia]

HALO helps bring water to Somaliland's capital

Last month, HALO used our explosive expertise to help lay vital water pipes—bringing water to Somaliland's capital.

www.halotrust.org

He said Musa bixi Jeegaan talked with Omar gelleh that he own SL and dont listen to farmaajo lool.

Man after 30 years still Dijbouti see SL as Mamuul part of Somalia lool.

 

[OffTheDome]

Somali towns where the earthquake was felt
in

1. Borama
2. Wajaale
3. Jigjiga

 

[Gucci Bucket Hat]

Hopefully no casualties Insha’Allah

 

[Younes Osman]

 

[Revolutionary]

What magnitude was it?

 

[Manafesto]

Since when did Somali territories had an earthquake?

First time hearing an earthquake taking place in the Greater Somali region, Wtf man, if this is isn't an inkaar then I don't know what to tell you.

Let's just stop abusing minorities for once and try to act civilized for once in our lives please.

Shit is retarded asf hence why we are cursed without these never ending wars,famine and now earthquakes, y'all need to wake the f up before we go on extinct and Ethopians/Kenyans takes our an awoow land.

 

[Dooyo]

Since when did Somali territories had an earthquake?

First time hearing an earthquake taking place in the Somali pensiula, Wtf man, if this is no Inkaar then I don't know what to tell you.

Lets just stop abusing minorities for once and try that act civilized for once in our livesp please.

Shit is retarded asf hence why we are cursed with never ending wars,famine and now earthquakes, y'all need to wake the f up before we go on extinct and Oromos takes our land.

Earthquakes are actually pretty common in that area. Remember the thread from earlier this year about Somalia becoming an island? That because the Nubian and Somali plates are moving away from each other. Makes the region earthquake prone.

 

[Rooble44]

Since when did Somali territories had an earthquake?

First time hearing an earthquake taking place in the Greater Somali region, Wtf man, if this is isn't an inkaar then I don't know what to tell you.

Let's just stop abusing minorities for once and try to act civilized for once in our lives please.

Shit is retarded asf hence why we are cursed without these never ending wars,famine and now earthquakes, y'all need to wake the f up before we go on extinct and Ethopians/Kenyans takes our an awoow land.

Meesha cuqubad baa ka jirta sxb, Somalis back home are a different breed.

 

[codewebsduh]

Just came back to jigjiga , i thought i dreamt it but I felt the ground move last night and the roof shake. I was up late so it was around 1-3am.

 

[codewebsduh]

In jigjiga there has been locusts and now earthquakes.

 

[one]

What will it take for our leaders to stop Guelleh’s Somaliland encroachment?

All it takes to let the Awdal region join Djibouti in exchange for ictiraafkan loo wada waashay. IOG is happy, reer Awdal are happy and so are the Ictiraaf seekers. Everyone is happy, problem solved.

Somalis like to complicate everything.

 

[Iceman88]

All it takes to let the Awdal region join Djibouti in exchange for ictiraafkan loo wada waashay. IOG is happy, reer Awdal are happy and so are the Ictiraaf seekers. Everyone is happy, problem solved.

Somalis like to complicate everything.

that is never happening, Isaaq is stronger than Ciise and gudabirsi put together. Ciise don't dicatate to us
Awdal has more chance of reuiniting with Somalia

 

[Helios]

Ignore it, this is a highly exaggerated oped by the salty Habar Awal clan who are angry they're completely sidelined in the Guban region. The Djibouti Minister of Water is Samaroon-Mahadcase who originally hails from Lughaya and was the one who signed the deal.

A fishing port for the people of Zeila and a salt factory will be built, in exchange Djibouti will have access to Western Awdal's water reserves.

The article was obviously written by a Waddani party supporter who is in all likelihood not HA

Who cares about selling Dir wells in west Awdal to IOG who is also Dir?

The Guban region also includes Berbera so idk what you mean by 'marginalization' in fact you have nothing of value on the coast besides Zeila which is a glorified museum now

 

[Revolutionary]

Somaliland politics confuses me