Reer Awdal unity & self-rule grand conference
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I did spot the caption: a son of Somal nonetheless. Focus on the bigger goal: Unity, and self-rule for reer Awdal.
Shameless lol. Moryaan behaviour is shameless. Get your priorities straight.
Gadabuursi are the least likely to claim him (relative to everyone else). They have one of the oldest ugaaships (from one line), one of the most organized Xeers, a history of horsemenship and are one of the longest living residents of what is now Awdal. They also kept the various Gaala invasions at bay.
@Arkan, thoughts?
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Poets ride horses nowShameless lol. Moryaan behaviour is shameless. Get your priorities straight.
Gadabuursi are the least likely to claim him (relative to everyone else). They have one of the oldest ugaaships (from one line), one of the most organized Xeers, a history of horsemenship and are one of the longest living residents of what is now Awdal. They also kept the various Gaala invasions at bay.
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If you are ignorant (lacking in subject-specific knowledge or its scant) then say nothing. Or you'll come off as a fool. I'd heed that advice if I were you.An Awdalite posted this on another forum.
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This is the biggest conference since the year 2000.
The second stage of the conference will move back home. Expert panels will discuss history , politics, economy and the current situation. Will emphasize the economic blockades of the last 25 years, the close to $600 million donor money and where the money was spent, the victims of SNM crimes including Muuse Biixi, the resource and tax money hauled from the region to Hargeisa and so on.
Eventually we will elect openly the leadership that will guide the movement.
This Shir isn't open to everyone. In order to participate, one must believe:
In Awdal u madax banaanaato,
Siyaasadeeda ( Self rule)
Dhaqaalaheeda (economic development, to build roads, ports and mine its minerals)
Dhaqankeeda (revive and build Adal historical cultures, literature in including Far Geda...rsi, the ancient Adal Alphabet, rebuilding Masjid Qiblateyn in Zaylac, Zaylici folklores and so on).
In the early stages of the debate in early January, some soft hearts who have argued that we must elect our governors, collect taxes and build our ports within the Somaliland system.
That argument went out of the window after witnessing the bombing of Laascaanood without mercy. Everyone agreed that we could have been just like Laascaanood if we rebelled against warlord Ina Biixi.We also learned a lot from Allah ha naxariiste Cali Khaliif who tried to negotiate peacefully but was mocked by Muuse and company.
Only four weeks left. I can assure you this Shir is huge, a game changer.
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This is the biggest conference since the year 2000.
The second stage of the conference will move back home. Expert panels will discuss history , politics, economy and the current situation. Will emphasize the economic blockades of the last 25 years, the close to $600 million donor money and where the money was spent, the victims of SNM crimes including Muuse Biixi, the resource and tax money hauled from the region to Hargeisa and so on.
Eventually we will elect openly the leadership that will guide the movement.
This Shir isn't open to everyone. In order to participate, one must believe:
In Awdal u madax banaanaato,
Siyaasadeeda ( Self rule)
Dhaqaalaheeda (economic development, to build roads, ports and mine its minerals)
Dhaqankeeda (revive and build Adal historical cultures, literature in including Far Geda...rsi, the ancient Adal Alphabet, rebuilding Masjid Qiblateyn in Zaylac, Zaylici folklores and so on).
In the early stages of the debate in early January, some soft hearts who have argued that we must elect our governors, collect taxes and build our ports within the Somaliland system.
That argument went out of the window after witnessing the bombing of Laascaanood without mercy. Everyone agreed that we could have been just like Laascaanood if we rebelled against warlord Ina Biixi.We also learned a lot from Allah ha naxariiste Cali Khaliif who tried to negotiate peacefully but was mocked by Muuse and company.
Only four weeks left. I can assure you this Shir is huge, a game changer.
The Iman was a great son of ardu Somal, and was for all, let us all claim him as ours.
Back to supporting reer Awdal for unity and self-rule!
Back to supporting reer Awdal for unity and self-rule!
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@Sophisticate will you be attending? If so, can I come as your plus-one?
I can't attend, sadly.
Mr Mukhtaar's message to reer Awdal.
Shameless lol. Moryaan behaviour is shameless. Get your priorities straight.
Gadabuursi are the least likely to claim him (relative to everyone else). They have one of the oldest ugaaships (from one line), one of the most organized Xeers, a history of horsemenship and are one of the longest living residents of what is now Awdal. They also kept the various Gaala invasions at bay.
I hope u don't believe ahmed gurey was somali lol, Turks n portugese geopolitical war spilled over into the red sea cuz portugese wanted access to india and couldn't cross the long route around west/south africa coastline due to inferiority in maritime knowledge and vessel technology, which they eventually did tho but not when the conflict happened cuz they lost and eventually returned taking the long route.
Plus habesh had a portugese legion leading it, if ahmed gurey was somali, who was their foreign hand/leadership to counter the portugese. That war was pure political and economic motives to reach india and only disguised in religion to habesh/somali due to the world order being religious at the time.
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Ahmed Gurey was Karanle Hawiye, This 1k page monograph on the Imam is currently in Harar library. Itβs the only state funded research of the imam thatβs accepted in capital state university. It covers the identity of the imam including the Malassay (elite infantry) that did most of the fighting and had access to the fire arms.
Ok u now talking in Dr osman language 'rationality'. How old is the book and time-period first. But my logical premise might be wrong but what countered the portugese legion element leading the habesh for Somali if the general was local somali not knowing international scale warfare which a turk would.
@Step a side It doesn't sit well with logic that Somali general led Adal wars while habesh had portugese legionaire leading and escalating the conflict dimension as the Somali general wouldn't be able to respond to portugese calibre general war strategy.
Plus what's the date on the book is another important factor. If it's modern, i'd be careful as it's not even from the time period unless it has strong un-deniable universal evidence(not evidence muran keenayso universal means no muran) and I hope it's not just ku tiri ku teen(hearsay) written in the modern age either as that will hurt its credibility.
Plus what's the date on the book is another important factor. If it's modern, i'd be careful as it's not even from the time period unless it has strong un-deniable universal evidence(not evidence muran keenayso universal means no muran) and I hope it's not just ku tiri ku teen(hearsay) written in the modern age either as that will hurt its credibility.
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Far from it! The book was written in the early 60s, the research was entirely funded by King Selassie's government but references chronicles of habesha emperors, futuh and foreign accounts all spanning the last 500 years. Its the most in depth study on Gragns history yet to be fully translated.
One of the leading Harari scholar at the time, Ahmed Sami who had access to all the manuscripts of Harar at the time contributed to this masterpiece. Here are just some of his credentials
. The guy literally produced the concise manuscript history of Harar (in his Fatah Madinat Harar manuscript) for several European institutions and provides the only extensive family tree and genealogical known tradition of 8 generations.
Far from it! The book was written in the early 60s, the research was entirely funded by King Selassie's government but references chronicles of habesha emperors, futuh and foreign accounts all spanning the last 500 years. Its the most in depth study on Gragns history yet to be fully translated.
One of the leading Harari scholar at the time, Ahmed Sami who had access to all the manuscripts of Harar at the time contributed to this masterpiece. Here are just some of his credentials
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The battle was in 1500s, while the sources being cited is dated to 1700s. Im not saying it's inaccurate but the source is 200 years from the event, but then again we know sayid abdulle oral history has lasted 150 years and ppl can recite it like gospel. Even the source in the 1700 what gives it 'credibility' so it's not ku tiri ku teen of the 1700s? what is the basis that makes it universal no muran type of evidence? Im not denying it but what makes u assume it's factual.
Like evolution muran kama taagna dhinaca calumta scienceka becuz DNA tests can show human and animal relations when religious ppl would argue where is the missing link in fossil record lol. Plus logic seals it, we live in 1 world, we didn't develop separately and have common origins.
Sxb Somali scholars do not claim ahmed gurey is another blow to the story and is just mythology in FKD clan circles with no Somali scholar giving it any credibility.
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You misunderstood itWhat I send you are the credentials of the great Harari scholar Ahmed Sami who helped the actual author Takle Sadiq Mekuria with this book.
Cerulli, Burton & Paulitschke are all referenced by Mkuria he compares all foreign chronicles as well as medieval Arab Faqihβs Futuh, Sarsa Dengleβs and Portuguese chronicles among others. Here are some of the pages translated.
In Mekuria's defence he debated conflicting opinions, it is a study not a propaganda mouth piece, in his conclusion he agreed with Sami, the Amhara acc wouldn't be happy he wanted to appear a medium btwn emperors defending their narrative and the Futuh defending muslim victories!
The Amhara say he's the son of a christian monk which was humorous folklore, why also would Mekuria mention his Somali identity knowing a Somali government next door was gaining military power, Mekuria was even once a political prisoner in Mogadishu after the Italo-Eth invasion
