REER UK, WE'RE FINISHED!

[Kisame]

Who said it has to be a gulf country

Tekniko became a blogger in Kenya after leaving Canada . It pays the bills.

 

[Sigmundd]

Yea but like if your focus was to leave the UK, than you would have found a way by now. You could have earned a degree that could have given you access to better job opportunities in Muslim countries.

You aren't a broke ass teenager

I'm having a different career change. Teaching is what I'm going for. I feel like overseas recuirt teachers more. You can move up if your a teacher here

 

[Calaf]

Ignorance truly is a bliss. Do you people think the scholars are ignorant or that they are faasiqs that will willingly ignore the ayahs of the Quran? Is that just the arrogance you people have in your own petty knowledge or is that how low you think of the scholarss? Do you think Abu Haneefah and the thousands of scholars that came after him would just ignore this ayah when he gave his fatwa? His evidence is a saheeh hadith in Bukhari. But don’t let facts get in the way of your blind emotion.

Yet again a hadith does not have any weight over a ayah. Scholars are humans, they aint infailable. If its stated in the Quran its haram, then how could you possibly interpret it differently?

Tafsir Surah Al-Baqarah - 278 - Quran.com

Read Ibn Kathir (Abridged) for Ayah 278 of Surah Al-Baqarah

quran.com

Taking riba is basically declaring war against Allah SWT.

And even if you listen to these "scholars", how can you justify getting a mortgage for a house as a necessity. How is if a life or death situation when there is multiple other housing solutions including renting?

 

[Abaq]

Yet again a hadith does not have any weight over a ayah. Scholars are humans, they aint infailable. If its stated in the Quran its haram, then how could you possibly interpret it differently?

Tafsir Surah Al-Baqarah - 278 - Quran.com

Read Ibn Kathir (Abridged) for Ayah 278 of Surah Al-Baqarah

quran.com

Taking riba is basically declaring war against Allah SWT.

And even if you listen to these "scholars", how can you justify getting a mortgage for a house as a necessity. How is if a life or death situation when there is multiple other housing solutions including renting?

Riba is haram, the question here is when does riba apply and when does it not. Go learn usul fiqh

 

[reer]

Riba is haram, the question here is when does riba apply and when does it not. Go learn usul fiqh

and 3 out 4 madhabs dont agree with you.

 

[Kun_Ciil]

Yet again a hadith does not have any weight over a ayah. Scholars are humans, they aint infailable. If its stated in the Quran its haram, then how could you possibly interpret it differently?

Tafsir Surah Al-Baqarah - 278 - Quran.com

Read Ibn Kathir (Abridged) for Ayah 278 of Surah Al-Baqarah

quran.com

Taking riba is basically declaring war against Allah SWT.

And even if you listen to these "scholars", how can you justify getting a mortgage for a house as a necessity. How is if a life or death situation when there is multiple other housing solutions including renting?

Bro I remember my dad in the mid 90s wanted to a buy a house with a mortgage that involved riba. He went to an Egyptian sheikh to ask for a fatwa regarding its permissibility. The sheikh told him it is not a life or death situation, that he could rent or even if he couldn't afford rent he could buy a house in a Muslim country such as Syria/Egypt and move his kids there and provide for them whilst working abroad.

My dad refrained, and alxamdullilah Allah blessed him with a lot of khayr in this life and children that love him. As a Muslim it must be terrifying to engage in riba and knowing the accountability that is waiting on the day of judgement.



@Abaq

This riba thing in the west is such a fitna. My dad or the Somalis in 90s could've bought a lot of cheap houses(even outside london). When you look at the Pakistani population they don't live in council estates and all have bought their own houses through riba based mortgage. Looking at it worldly wise they are financially and socially better off than Somalis who don't own property.

But bro what do we do as Muslims? Do we choose the dunya over aakhira? As Allah says in the quran

And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty).
3. And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allah has set a measure for all things.-(Surah talaaq)

Tho i think the future generations in the west will accept paying riba to get a house since that is the only way they can in the western systems. Laakin now tbh i don't its worth it even from a financial perspective since the cost of houses and the riba involved is extortionate, 30 years paying for a property? That is bondage.

 

[Abaq]

Bro I remember my dad in the mid 90s wanted to a buy a house with a mortgage that involved riba. He went to an Egyptian sheikh to ask for a fatwa regarding its permissibility. The sheikh told him it is not a life or death situation, that he could rent or even if he couldn't afford rent he could buy a house in a Muslim country such as Syria/Egypt and move his kids there and provide for them whilst working abroad.

My dad refrained, and alxamdullilah Allah blessed him with a lot of khayr in this life and children that love him. As a Muslim it must be terrifying to engage in riba and knowing the accountability that is waiting on the day of judgement.



@Abaq

This riba thing in the west is such a fitna. My dad or the Somalis in 90s could've bought a lot of cheap houses(even outside london). When you look at the Pakistani population they don't live in council estates and all have bought their own houses through riba based mortgage. Looking at it worldly wise they are financially and socially better off than Somalis who don't own property.

But bro what do we do as Muslims? Do we choose the dunya over aakhira? As Allah says in the quran

And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty).
3. And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allah has set a measure for all things.-(Surah talaaq)

Tho i think the future generations in the west will accept paying riba to get a house since that is the only way they can in the western systems. Laakin now tbh i don't its worth it even from a financial perspective since the cost of houses and the riba involved is extortionate, 30 years paying for a property? That is bondage.

This is a respectful stance and I applaud your father. It is always better to err on the side of caution. I am merely against those that scream haram haram and are intolerant of other opinions.

However, if this is a choice you make knowing the consequences, you really need to ask yourself if the West is for you. If you are worried about Riba, why are you also not worried about the rampant kufr and fisq? For folks that take this path, they should seriously plan their returns home.

 

[Rayaale]

Riba is haram, the question here is when does riba apply and when does it not. Go learn usul fiqh

Are you really debating when riba is acceptable,are you hearing yourself subhanallah