Religion and Colorism

[Username]

Is it me or is this thread trending twice?

 

[Hodan from HR]

Prophet Luqman who has a whole surah named after in the Quran, was Nubian

 

[Odayga_Jabuuti]

I never claimed u said Islam is racist, not sure where you got that from? I know it’s not.

scholars are just that, scholars with opinions they don’t know everything and that interpretation is clearly wrong because it makes no sense, it just sounds like they’re tryna elevate their own skin colour and people.

They are sure of their interpretation just as you are sure of your interpretation.
Their were many influential muslim medieval interpreters who didn't hide their racism.
Today, it's different, many people are trying to hide certain things because today racism is punished.

 

[Kant123]

I keep hearing about this meme of black prophets, but find zero evidence besides some murky statements on the darkness of Moses etc.. They could have been tanned Jews and not actual blacks.

There were none who were of Sub-Saharan African in origin. They were pretty much all ethnic Jews except for Muhammed who was an ethnic Arab.

Bani Israel had different origins and appearances as explained in hadiths, whats so suprising that Musa who lived most life in Souhern Egypt/Northern sudan was dark skin

 

[Jaydaan]

I’ve noticed that a lot of religious guys who go to the masjid or are very involved with their community that I’ve seen around my age (mid 20s to late 20s) that are very religious usually are into light skin or white muslims. I asked one of my cousins about it and at first he denied that and said maybe some of his friends prefer that and it was just a preference. Further into the conversation he theorized that faith and purity is often linked to whiteness and that most of us were indoctrinated to thinking that way, especially Somalis who link being religious to being more Arab.

Thoughts? Do you guys agree?

I personally haven’t noticed that myself. A lot of colourist accusations are based on assumptions than someone actually being colourist

 

[Destiny]

Or they find the Arab looking girls beautiful which is just fine

I never said it wasn't fine. I was just answering the OP dude.

 

[Apollo]

Bani Israel had different origins and appearances as explained in hadiths, whats so suprising that Musa who lived most life in Souhern Egypt/Northern sudan was dark skin

Egyptians aren't black. They are Mediterranean by race.

Furthermore, they can sequence the genetics of people who died a long time ago. Israel has been covered deeply and they never found any Sub-Saharan Africans there before 500 CE.

Hence, occam's razor, all those main Abrahamic prophets looked Semitic just with varying tones, but still clearly Semitic and not Sub-Saharan African.

Claiming they were black is no better than those European larpers who paint Jesus as an Aryan Nordic with blonde hair & blue eyes, both groups (whites & blacks) are coping and changing reality (i.e. the reality that Abrahamic prophets looked Semitic/Levantine and not 'white' or 'black').

PS. These are Egyptian Jews..

 

[Apollo]

Prophet Luqman who has a whole surah named after in the Quran, was Nubian

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It is not clear whether he was a prophet or not. Opinions differ on him apparently.

He does not appear in the Jewish and Christian Bibles.

'' The Quran mentions the sage Luqman in the chapter named after him, but does not clearly identify him as a prophet. The most widespread Islamic belief[146] views Luqman as a saint, but not as a messenger, however, other Muslims regard Luqman as a messenger as well.[147] The Arabic term wali is commonly translated into English as "Saint". This should not be confused with the Christian tradition of sainthood. ''

 

[Amirah]

Maybe because you can't get Whiter than white ?
White people are told that diversity is good and that all humans are equal no matter their skin color while a lot of Brown and Black people are told that the lighter they are the most beautiful they are. For example, some Darkskin woman would get jealous bcoz her lightskin sister gets more attention.
Meanwhile, many While people like to get a tan, because it's seen as more beautiful. (Kardashians)
We live in 2 different worlds. LOL

you make it seem like brown and black people are exempt and not “told” diversity or equality is good. You can’t possibly be real now can you? And “Darkskin” kinda sounds like you’re an idiot suffering from severe form of self-hate….that’s assuming that you are in fact POC.

 

[Sheikh Google]

Religious me as is he probably has a Muslim non Somali friend group. The obsession with white reverts and arabs is upheld with the Muslim community. Fake wadaads are obsessed with stasis symbols and their wife being white is one.

Funnily enough ciyaal suuq Somali guys aren’t phased nor are normal 5x a day with a professional job concerned with that.

Somali guys are very easily influenced by their peers

This. I've seen it for my own eyes when I was a hardcore salaf back in the days. The inferiority complex is what drives them to want a white/light shade person as a wife.

 

[akaA2]

wtf?!! How would they know that???

He's lying dajjal aint African. He's a yahuudi.
The guy he's talking abt is the one that'll destroy the kaabah. He's a habashi.

Take what this gaal says with a grain of salt. They always lie abt the deen.

 

[Hassan2000]

Religiosity really has nothing to do with anything. Some guys just prefer fairer skinned women

 

[Periplus]

Egyptians aren't black. They are Mediterranean by race.

Furthermore, they can sequence the genetics of people who died a long time ago. Israel has been covered deeply and they never found any Sub-Saharan Africans there before 500 CE.

Hence, occam's razor, all those main Abrahamic prophets looked Semitic just with varying tones, but still clearly Semitic and not Sub-Saharan African.

Claiming they were black is no better than those European larpers who paint Jesus as an Aryan Nordic with blonde hair & blue eyes, both groups (whites & blacks) are coping and changing reality (i.e. the reality that Abrahamic prophets looked Semitic/Levantine and not 'white' or 'black').

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[faarax_mn]

fun fact lightskin women is an evolutionary sexual selection. Society likes light skin women get over it

It's not "evolutionary" you simply have internalized hate that you need to work out. Nacalada ku dhashay wass

 

[heavyrealm]

One would say its an example of free-will and ignorance.

Or that it’s all false and none of its real

 

[Periplus]

fun fact lightskin women is an evolutionary sexual selection. Society likes light skin women get over it

War kaalay ninkaan qabta, caadi ma ahaan.

 

[Hassan2000]

It's not "evolutionary" you simply have internalized hate that you need to work out. Nacalada ku dhashay wass

Thats a crutch Dark females tell each other... Its not real lol

 

[Periplus]

Or that it’s all false and none of its real

If that is a drawn conclusion rather than a certainty for you, play Pascal's wager.

 

[heavyrealm]

If that is a drawn conclusion rather than a certainty for you, play Pascal's wager.

So you’d follow a religion which has no proof of its claims cause of muh faith.

 

[Periplus]

So you’d follow a religion which has no proof of its claims cause of muh faith.

I believe in Islam because it makes the most sense to me, personally.

However, logically, you and I will never certainly know whether god exists or not unless we either die or have the ability to achieve immortality.

For those that have doubts, play it safe and consider Pascal's wager. Just my advice.