Return of refugees to deeply alter Jubaland demographics

[Bahal]

Only my tol were smart enough to follow him.

In reality, he was Aideed's concubine from the beginning

 

[sanger]

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In reality, he was Aideed's concubine from the beginning

shameless opportunists.

 

[Abdalla]

No,

"
Following their defeat the various Darod factions, including the SPM (Ogadeni), SSDF (Hart)) and SNF (Marehan), regrouped under the banner of the SPM. Internal Darod conflicts over land were forgotten in the face of the anti-Darod rhetoric from Aideed, who proclaimed his intention of clearing all Darod from Somalia. Gabiyo was appointed the new chairman of the SPM, and Jess the military commander. General Morgan (Majeerteen and Barre's son-in-law) was given charge of the police. The election of Gabiyo as the Chairman led to a rift between Gabiyo and Jess. It is suggested that Gabiyo was elected chairman to ensure the support of his Awlihan clan, who up until then had been supporting Jess.

In June 1991, the SPM recaptured Kismayo and Brava. A second attempt to retake Mogadishu was again defeated by the USC. In December 1991, during the reelection of the SPM chairman, Gabiyo and Morgan combined forces to remove Jess's forces from Kismayo and Brava. Jess then went on to form an alliance with Aideed's USC, which became known as the Somali Liberation Army (SLA). Their combined forces managed to push Gabiyo and Morgan out of Kismayo and in April 1992 forced Barre into exile in Kenya. Following this victory Aideed and Jess formed the Somali National Alliance (SNA), combining together with the SDM and the SSNM."

Gabyow was used to remove ogaden out of kismayo since they made up the bulk of the fighting militia. This was the reason why jees joined Aydiid. Why would have join aydiid when USC killed many of his soldiers a year before? It doesn't make sense.

USC was in Kismayo as early as April, 1991 lol. And we all know who led them. The timeline of your little source is inaccurate.

 

[Abdalla]

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In reality, he was Aideed's concubine from the beginning

He changed sides twice. Tollow did Caasho Caydiid inherit the general when he died

 

[Ferrari]

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You don't think he should have defended Barre do you? It's the sole reason why he formed SPM. Gabyow shouldn't have sided with darood because he was released out of prison after Barre was kicked out of Xamar. It was dumb of him to defend the same people who put him there, that's where we went wrong. You as a marehan would of course disagree.

 

[Ferrari]

USC was in Kismayo as early as April, 1991 lol. And we all know who led them. The timeline of your little source is inaccurate.

True but when "darood" captured the city back from Aydiid under "SPM", why was jees removed by morgan and gabyow? Any explanation for that?

 

[Abdalla]

True but when "darood" captured the city back from Aydiid under "SPM", why was jees removed by morgan and gabyow? Any explanation for that?

Because he was working with Caydiid all along. Jess initially was working with USC, he sees his Ogadeens getting killed, he fights USC. Daroods march all the way to Afgoye with Jess in their ranks, but lose that decisive battle, come back to lick their wound in Kismayo, only to find out that he still works with Caydiid. They kick him out, he joins Caydiid again.

 

[Ferrari]

Because he was working with Caydiid all along. Jess initially was working with USC, he sees his Ogadeens getting killed, he fights USC. Daroods march all the way to Afgoye with Jess in their ranks, but lose that decisive battle, come back to lick their wound in Kismayo, only to find out that he still works with Caydiid. They kick him out, he joins Caydiid again.

He was used to fight Caydiid, u know damn well without Jees and his militia from Bakool and k5, darood wouldn't have kicked out aydiid. FOH man. When he did the job, he was kicked out, which is something I can expect from MJs and MR tho. it's siyaasad.

 

[Arma]

Because he was working with Caydiid all along. Jess initially was working with USC, he sees his Ogadeens getting killed, he fights USC. Daroods march all the way to Afgoye with Jess in their ranks, but lose that decisive battle, come back to lick their wound in Kismayo, only to find out that he still works with Caydiid. They kick him out, he joins Caydiid again.

Isit true that Daroods lost that battle after they got to Afgoy, due to infighting and disagreement; with the Marehans wanting to reinstate 'Abo Siyad', and MJ being against it, and then MJ faction, left Marehans to fight it out with USC?

 

[Abdalla]

Isit true that Daroods lost that battle after they got to Afgoy, due to infighting and disagreement; with the Marehans wanting to reinstate 'Abo Siyad', and MJ being against it, and then MJ faction, left Marehans to fight it out with USC?

No, Marehans under general Massale left while Jess was giving intel.

He was used to fight Caydiid, u know damn well without Jees and his militia from Bakool and k5, darood wouldn't have kicked out aydiid. FOH man. When he did the job, he was kicked out, which is something I can expect from MJs and MR tho. it's siyaasad.

It was Gabyows SPM doing the most heavy lifting. Jess in april 1991 was in cahoots with Caydiid. I thought you were a heavyweight?

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/11/w...break-out-between-somalia-s-rebel-groups.html
In february 1991 they were still allies, two months later kismayo is attacked.

 

[sanger]

So much historical revisionism occurs on Somali message boards.

 

[Ferrari]

No, Marehans under general Massale left while Jess was giving intel.


It was Gabyows SPM doing the most heavy lifting. Jess in april 1991 was in cahoots with Caydiid. I thought you were a heavyweight?

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/11/w...break-out-between-somalia-s-rebel-groups.html
In february 1991 they were still allies, two months later kismayo is attacked.

It only mentions that gabyow was with him. Jees was actively fighting by 1989 whereas gabyow was released from prison in Janauary of 91 and Jees was in hamar at the time which is where they met. Gabyow wasn't put in charge of the darood militia until later that year. so what heavy lifting was he doing?

 

[sanger]

It only mentions that gabyow was with him. Jees was actively fighting by 1989 whereas gabyow was released from prison in Janauary of 91 and Jees was in hamar at the time which is where they met. Gabyow wasn't put in charge of the darood militia until later that year. so what heavy lifting was he doing?

It's time to log off bro. Just sleep this L away.

 

[Ferrari]

It's time to log off bro. Just sleep this L away.

 

[Starscream]

My mom seen ogaden doing the silly dance they do in Mogadishu bragging about siyaad barre leaving in February/March 91
shortly after she took a car full of hawiye traveling south the car came across jess militia men littered near jilib with hawiye putting grass in there mouth treating the dead bodies like scarecrow this one hawiye guy was like what are you looking at let him enjoy his jaad

 

[Arma]

My mom seen ogaden doing the silly dance they do in Mogadishu bragging about siyaad barre leaving in February/March 91
shortly after she took a car full of hawiye traveling south the car came across jess militia men littered near jilib with hawiye putting grass in there mouth treating the dead bodies like scarecrow this one hawiye guy was like what are you looking at let him enjoy his jaad

I swear, this is the fifth Dhulo, I've come accross who uses, "my hoyo", as a refernce.

 

[Starscream]

I swear, this is the fifth Dhulo, I've come accross who uses, "my hoyo", as a refernce.

Yes my mom is fine historian I enjoyed her stories
My favorite story was her describing how arrogant mj ass shaked for aydid just for qeybdid to cut 500 of your elders heads off in Galkacyo
The famous day mj started crying for darod
I also have stories from my dad side but he stories mainly consist of him seeing mj running away alot
@Reiko come get yo ex usc cheerleaders

 

[Bahal]

My mom seen ogaden doing the silly dance they do in Mogadishu bragging about siyaad barre leaving in February/March 91
shortly after she took a car full of hawiye traveling south the car came across jess militia men littered near jilib with hawiye putting grass in there mouth treating the dead bodies like scarecrow this one hawiye guy was like what are you looking at let him enjoy his jaad

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@Bahal do you see any potential in creating a Darod political identity that is remains nationalist? Or is your view that any sub identities to the Somali one are unproductive?

 

[Ferrari]

My mom seen ogaden doing the silly dance they do in Mogadishu bragging about siyaad barre leaving in February/March 91
shortly after she took a car full of hawiye traveling south the car came across jess militia men littered near jilib with hawiye putting grass in there mouth treating the dead bodies like scarecrow this one hawiye guy was like what are you looking at let him enjoy his jaad

so ur mom(a darood woman) was fleeing the city and hawiye were nice enough to give her a free lift miyaa?
ur not supposed to get high on workdays waryaa.