Secret Recording of Abdullahi Yusuf AUN released and Abdiqaasim

Dont waste your time with those kids. You ask them what you achieve in 91 and answer was picture 2022 lool.
War go learn English, he said what have you achieved "Since 91" as in from 91 till today.

And what comes to what we achieved in 91 was obviously the downfall of a 21 years old dictatorship that turned Somalis into bitter enemies and was also trying to ethnically cleanse non MOD clans.
 

repo

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All of Somalia's current problems can be traced to the Doofar government who failed to follow basic rule of law and become a 3 sub clan junta. However I must say I really love this air of self righteousness displayed by Doofars in this thread. Do you want me to post how Darood government hoarded and resold aid destained for refugees in the streets of Mogadishu/Hargeisa or how you let the aid get spoiled in Berbera instead of delivering it to people going through drought for tribally motivated reasons? Or how you dig up telephone wires, doors and window frames in Hargeisa selling it across Somalia as scrap parts along with furniture in 1988. Or how Morgan killed tens of thousands of Isaaqs in woqooyi and lotted grains stored in silos followed by burning farms in SWS leading to the famine of Rahawynen people (again this is the the actions of centralized government or its remnants not a militia or rebellion movement)

Wither it toke ICU 15 months of 15 years, it was an ostensibly competent government established by Hawiye and made more progress in 6 months what AY TFG failed to accomplish in 4 years. This is the crux of the discussion the likes of you could never refute. Desperately trying to change the goalposts like your Dofaar people did not commit grave atrocities all over Somalia and fought like animals over Kismayo only to install a former Al Shabaab member as head of Jubaland.


Talk about walking contradiction.
A Hawiye terrorist group established peace for 6 months doesn't mean it would have lasted forever, and now we know they were incapable as they attacked other clans and the TFG in their cockiness, resulting in a quick return to their nature. Even Islam couldn't contain them.

I can walk unmolested from Ras Casayr to Mudug in a 3 sub clan junta while a Hutu has trouble walking from Ceelasha Biyaha to Hodan. That's not a goalpost but reality which has been documented since 1991. The reason many of you have a problem with AY is because you think it whitewashes the destruction of Somalia and lawlessness that plagues the nation till this day.

And don't give a sob story about how Morgan violated Isaaq, from a tribal POV it can always be seen as revenge for atrocities committed in Mudug. Siad Barre left the country in 1991 and left it intact but lets blame Kacaanka and lost furniture.

Happy Cracking Up GIF by Regal
 

Dharbash

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End of the day this is the man who refused to acknowledge Khastumo state in 2014. Every time you stateless Kashmiri lot wave the blue flag in Las Anus and get locked up by idoor, HSM looks at you and laughs. Keshmiris are little more than cheap Idoor condoms obsessed with Mogadishu and bum licking Farmajo. HSM awarded Galmudug a state while being in control of one and half regions, meanwhile your SSC Khashmiri state is being ignored not just by Mogadishu but by the entire IC. Does not matter how many letters you send to NGOs, you'll always remain an idoor condom thanks to this man. I look forward to Kashmiri tears when Bandir state gets it's rightful representatives as a FMS.


The fate of your stateless Kashmiri people rests in the hand of this man.
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Looks like @World destroyed you in this debate and you cry and quickly change the topic
 
A Hawiye terrorist group established peace for 6 months doesn't mean it would have lasted forever, and now we know they were incapable as they attacked other clans and the TFG in their cockiness, resulting in a quick return to their nature. Even Islam couldn't contain them.

I can walk unmolested from Ras Casayr to Mudug in a 3 sub clan junta while a Hutu has trouble walking from Ceelasha Biyaha to Hodan. That's not a goalpost but reality which has been documented since 1991. The reason many of you have a problem with AY is because you think it whitewashes the destruction of Somalia and lawlessness that plagues the nation till this day.

And don't give a sob story about how Morgan violated Isaaq, from a tribal POV it can always be seen as revenge for atrocities committed in Mudug. Siad Barre left the country in 1991 and left it intact but lets blame Kacaanka and lost furniture.

Happy Cracking Up GIF by Regal

This is what's wrong with Somalia,An inbred always have to speak of something he has no knowledge of . ceelasha to hodan is far walk not only can I drive to there unmolested we even have our majerteeni guests and university students driving from xamar to jazeera without being violated when I'm feeling nice πŸ˜€


Look all these landlocked north galgacyoids marvelling about my beach .
I'm glad now you've given up on defending your sick uncle who had to hold his kidney while rotting away in Yemen, you've now resorted to insult us and the city where your students and vacation goers spend most of their time 😁
Your a sick man/lady get some help .
 
A Hawiye terrorist group established peace for 6 months doesn't mean it would have lasted forever, and now we know they were incapable as they attacked other clans and the TFG in their cockiness, resulting in a quick return to their nature. Even Islam couldn't contain them
Same debunked talking points. What other political/military organization that was larger or stronger than ICU in 2006? None. Infact they were so strong and feared they walked right into Kismayo, a Darood city, unopposed. The same Kismayo Marehan, Majerteen and Ogaden keep fighting over till this very day was taken back like a walk in the park ... But that's besides the point. The longevity of ICU (pointless distraction tactic) is not the topic of discussion but their ability to restore peace and services which you just admit "for 6 months"



can walk unmolested from Ras Casayr to Mudug in a 3 sub clan junta while a Hutu has trouble walking from Ceelasha Biyaha to Hodan. That's not a goalpost but reality which has been documented since 1991. The reason many of you have a problem with AY is because you think it whitewashes the destruction of Somalia and lawlessness that plagues the nation till this day.

Actually that is not true and it shows your ignorance of your own history. I'm starting to think you're a child. Have you forgotten Puntland Civil War in 2001 when IAIA was running Bosasso and Omar Maxamuud led by AY and Ethiopian support kicked out IAIA along with his Osman Maxamuud rivals who contested his ending term as a president. No wonder he thought he could do the same in Mogadishu riding Ethiopian like the incompetent double agent jajuus he is. You can't walk freely in Qandala, Galgal or even in southeastern Bosssso wreacked by ISIS Salebaan/Warsangali insurgency and its rampant assassinations. Mind you this a homogenous 1 clan small city. You can't walk alone in Kismayo your supposed city without holding into Kenyan nuts. So much for dal Udag. Imagine getting schooled on your own state and running here with half assed decoys.
And don't give a sob story about how Morgan violated Isaaq, from a tribal POV it can always be seen as revenge for atrocities committed in Mudug. Siad Barre left the country in 1991 and left it intact but lets blame Kacaanka and lost furniture.

Going by the same logic Caydiid only toke revenge of Darood government atrocities when he chased you out of Mogadishu. When you reduce everything to tribal POV you have no leg to stand on because the Darood governnmet committed atrocities, destroyed infrastructure and lotted aid just like every other rebel movement. It turns out the civilized Darood narrative is just a cope out of losing power in Mogadishu. Dofaar on here are bitter about losing their privilege in Mogadishu and relinquishing in refugee camps across Kenya by the victorious USC in early 90s. You can hide behind faux concerns of nationalism, reconciliation and conserving non existing government institutions in 1991. We can all see right through your self righteousness and malice because when Doofar were in power you committed far worse heinous crimes. This in a nutshell why Doofar online are so hellbent on defaming USC/ICU. I will open the eyes of new HAG generation so that they know what kind of people we're dealing with.


Class is over, you're dismissed.
 
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Looks like @World destroyed you in this debate and you cry and quickly change the topic

Minimum requirement is s state of your own to enter this discussion. Opinion of subjugated, oppressed, stateless used condom holds little value. I only speak with Landheer Majerteen or Ogaden not a Kashmiri, daboliif 3rd class citizen.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
Same debunked talking points. What other political/military organization that was larger or stronger than ICU in 2006? None. Infact they were so strong and feared they walked right into Kismayo, a Darood city, unopposed. The same Kismayo Marehan, Majerteen and Ogaden keep fighting over till this very day was taken back like a walk in the park ... But that's besides the point. The longevity of ICU (pointless distraction tactic) is not the topic of discussion but their ability to restore peace and services which you just admit "for 6 months"





Actually that is not true and it shows your ignorance of your own history. I'm starting to think you're a child. Have you forgotten Puntland Civil War in 2001 when IAIA was running Bosasso and Omar Maxamuud led by AY and Ethiopian support kicked out IAIA along with his Osman Maxamuud rivals who contested his ending term as a president. No wonder he thought he could do the same in Mogadishu riding Ethiopian like the incompetent double agent jajuus he is. You can't walk freely in Qandala, Galgal or even in southeastern Bosssso wreacked by ISIS Salebaan/Warsangali insurgency and its rampant assassinations. Mind you this a homogenous 1 clan small city. You can't walk alone in Kismayo your supposed city without holding into Kenyan nuts. So much for dal Udag. Imagine getting schooled on your own state and running here with half assed decoys.


Going by the same logic Caydiid only toke revenge of Darood government atrocities when he chased you out of Mogadishu. When you reduce everything to tribal POV you have no leg to stand on because the Darood governnmet committed atrocities, destroyed infrastructure and lotted aid just like every other rebel movement. It turns out the civilized Darood narrative is just a cope out of losing power in Mogadishu. Dofaar on here are bitter about losing their privilege in Mogadishu and relinquishing in refugee camps across Kenya by the victorious USC in early 90s. You can hide behind faux concerns of nationalism, reconciliation and conserving non existing government institutions in 1991. We can all see right through your self righteousness and malice because when Doofar were in power you committed far worse heinous crimes. This in a nutshell why Doofar online are so hellbent on defaming USC/ICU. I will open the eyes of new HAG generation so that they know what kind of people we're dealing with.


Class is over, you're dismissed.
That's a lot of bullshit you wrote, it will take time to break down all of it. Ittihad which was founded by Isaaq Sheikh Ali Warsame, led by Hassan Dahir Aweys had no impact on Puntland. It's telling that the same man who led the terror group would later become a leader of the ICU. That in of itself knocks out any argument about the ICU intend to create peace. It's also pathetic strawman argument to compare Qandala to a place that has had literal anarchy, not even xeer ruled. It's desperate.

Ethiopia did not partake in that either, the boogeyman is not behind everything. Their support would have been no different from that which they gave SNM when they were hiding behind women and children in Hargeisa and Burco.

I know this is going to be difficult for you to comprehend but it's perfectly reasonable to be concerned about the absence of state institutions and literal collapse of a country. I know it's difficult to understand but lets try.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
This is what's wrong with Somalia,An inbred always have to speak of something he has no knowledge of . ceelasha to hodan is far walk not only can I drive to there unmolested we even have our majerteeni guests and university students driving from xamar to jazeera without being violated when I'm feeling nice πŸ˜€


Look all these landlocked north galgacyoids marvelling about my beach .
I'm glad now you've given up on defending your sick uncle who had to hold his kidney while rotting away in Yemen, you've now resorted to insult us and the city where your students and vacation goers spend most of their time 😁
Your a sick man/lady get some help .
I was supportive of AY and the invasion against the ICU controlled south. I would rather have Ethiopia destroy ICU/Shabaab, than ICU/Shabaab take over the south. You will never convince me that after 15 years of pillaging you suddenly became a wadaad. The internationally recognized TFG was right to call on its partner Ethiopia.
 

Libaax-Joore

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I was supportive of AY and the invasion against the ICU controlled south. I would rather have Ethiopia destroy ICU/Shabaab, than ICU/Shabaab take over the south. You will never convince me that after 15 years of pillaging you suddenly became a wadaad. The internationally recognized TFG was right to call on its partner Ethiopia.
Yeey was failure 😞
 

Libaax-Joore

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Today kismayo @peacemaker is doing danto well the great general mohamed said Hirsi Morgan is drinkin tea in martisor hotel ,garowe πŸ˜–πŸ˜–πŸ˜–πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘πŸ€¬life is a b1tch wallahi
 
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Libaax-Joore

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Abdullahi yusuf ahmed xaar xaar dhaleey bu ah ha wax laga daxle o dheef ah majirto we lost kismayo waxa kaliya laga dhaafe puntland wa hoyadi federalka galmudug wa ninki wasaye ciyalka ka dhale πŸ˜…πŸ˜… ciyalke dhashe wa ahmed madowe.qoorqoor ,laftagareen iyo gudlawe
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