shape the narrative

[Varriris]

almost all of Somalilands propaganda can be easily debunked, why are reer SSC (& awdal) not on the frontlines pushing their political agenda? Where are the youtube videos? Articles? it seems that SL zealots are the only ones who understand the power of propaganda.

Somaliland is the greatest proof of this. A literal shithole that doesn’t even control half of it’s territory since their army (which is nothing but a ragtag militia) got their asses beat by a subsubsub clan of ‘unionists’, half of their capital city Hargeysa doesn’t even have running water ffs, yet they’re discussing it as if it is some wellfunctioning progressive state because of a couple of youtube videos & a little lobbying do you know how insane that is?

The FGS is not remotely interested in setting the record straight, so it is upon everyday people to pushback against misinformation and lazy propaganda.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

I can sort of understand isaaq tryna run away, who wants to share a country or be ruled by HSM and his ilk?

 

[Varriris]

I can sort of understand isaaq tryna run away, who wants to share a country or be ruled by HSM and his ilk?

Them running away isn’t the problem, the people taking advantage of their desperation aa ka cabsana seeing israelis, ethiopians and emiratis all over the SL cause

 

[hayran]

SSC need millions to compete with this israeli media campaign for SL

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Them running away isn’t the problem, the people taking advantage of their desperation aa ka cabsana seeing israelis, ethiopians and emiratis all over the SL cause

That’s just optics, once they start making moves on the ground, then there’s cause for concern.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Yes, Also one very important note to add to this
When debunking do not attribute this to all the people living in the north, or all Isaaq clan when the majority dont even support this idea.

When you insult the entirety of the people, you are just furthering their stupid movement.
How do you think the majority, who are pro somalia think when people insult their clan like crazy.

Thats why those sland bots and/or ajnabi accounts are always saying outrageous things and devolve it down to qabil. They want to so badly wedge us apart, so instead address by the individual and always reaffirm that the majority do not follow that crazy idea.

Also a new thing im seeing is people would support the separatist cause if they gave up awdal and khatumo, Why?

Why would any clear minded person let that happen, First of all most of the people there do not want to support a city state with minimal resources and are unionist. Second of all, they will become an ethiopian vassal, I mean they will become everyones vassal that is why the Sepratist movement was founded to begin with, 2 gaals in cooperation with foreign countries created the movement and they were conveniently planted during the 80s just like the rest of the destruction projects sent to Somalia

 

[Sigmundd]

"Somaliland a shithole" same country that did a peaceful protest without forcefully selecting a leader against the people interest. Same country thats been peaceful for more than 30 years and don't have terrorist groups destabilising our country. Give me a bloody break.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Them running away isn’t the problem, the people taking advantage of their desperation aa ka cabsana seeing israelis, ethiopians and emiratis all over the SL cause

Thats the point, their not trying to run away and the very few genuine people who do support this are confused and mislead. This entire sepratist movement is supported by foreigners like you listed, from their conception until now. They don't care about the people, not one bit they only care about making sure somalis as a whole stay down.

"Somaliland a shithole" same country that did a peaceful protest without forcefully selecting a leader against the people interest. Same country thats been peaceful for more than 30 years and don't have terrorist groups destabilising our country. Give me a bloody break.

Its not but your developing well but you need to see the bigger forces at play, They have no good intention for you or the rest of us. Its better if you stay unionist, this HSM and 4.5 will pass and this state issue will be resolved.

 

[Sigmundd]

Thats the point, their not trying to run away and the very few genuine people who do support this are confused and mislead. This entire sepratist movement is supported by foreigners like you listed, from their conception until now. They don't care about the people, not one bit they only care about making sure somalis as a whole stay down.


Its not but your developing well but you need to see the bigger forces at play, They have no good intention for you or the rest of us. Its better if you stay unionist, this HSM and 4.5 will pass and this state issue will be resolved.

Unless an Isaaq is a leader we have no real interest to be apart of Somalia. We gain nor benefit anything by it. Somalia should resolve their own internal issue without forcing us to be in it.

 

[Internet Nomad]

If SL is a shithole Somalia is hell.

Crab in a bucket mentality if we can achieve success leave us alone.

The ideal of somaliweyn is clearly not going to happen any time soon. Come back to the topic in 50 years maybe somalis will grow a brain by then.

 

[Varriris]

If SL is a shithole Somalia is hell.

Crab in a bucket mentality if we can achieve success leave us alone.

The ideal of somaliweyn is clearly not going to happen any time soon. Come back to the topic in 50 years maybe somalis will grow a brain by then.

SL is preparing to become an ethio/emirati/israeli clientstate, does that bother you ?

 

[hayran]

SSC need millions to compete with this israeli media campaign for SL

Literally just make some decent memes that make the SL idea look stupid actually, really easy stuff and a lot of pre existing templates that the normie herd can’t get enough of

Landers are beating us at this game from what I’ve seen

 

[Internet Nomad]

SL is preparing to become an ethio/emirati/israeli clientstate, does that bother you ?

If it meant SL would be gulf nation tier then in a heartbeat.

Morality doesn’t mean anything when your starving.

 

[Varriris]

If it meant SL would be gulf nation tier then in a heartbeat.

Morality doesn’t mean anything when your starving.

And it’s precisely why I don’t believe in secession for either SL or PL. Even selling out would not drastically improve life for our people, not to gulf level. Another shitty african state with multiple military bases and questionable deals. Djibouti is the ceiling

 

[TheLand]

And it’s precisely why I don’t believe in secession for either SL or PL. Even selling out would not drastically improve life for our people, not to gulf level. Another shitty african state with multiple military bases and questionable deals. Djibouti is the ceiling

You seem to have a lot of criticism but never any concrete solutions

 

[Torti]

"Somaliland a shithole" same country that did a peaceful protest without forcefully selecting a leader against the people interest. Same country thats been peaceful for more than 30 years and don't have terrorist groups destabilising our country. Give me a bloody break.

Somaliland is a shithole but so is basically every part of the Horn of Africa

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

almost all of Somalilands propaganda can be easily debunked, why are reer SSC (& awdal) not on the frontlines pushing their political agenda? Where are the youtube videos? Articles? it seems that SL zealots are the only ones who understand the power of propaganda.

Somaliland is the greatest proof of this. A literal shithole that doesn’t even control half of it’s territory since their army (which is nothing but a ragtag militia) got their asses beat by a subsubsub clan of ‘unionists’, half of their capital city Hargeysa doesn’t even have running water ffs, yet they’re discussing it as if it is some wellfunctioning progressive state because of a couple of youtube videos & a little lobbying do you know how insane that is?

The FGS is not remotely interested in setting the record straight, so it is upon everyday people to pushback against misinformation and lazy propaganda.

Delusional take. Like I don't know what planet you think you are from? Piracy, terrorism, blackhawk down.
If Somaliland is poor, we are working poor. You guys are criminal underclass beyond redemption.

You guys just sit round the fire and come up with ways to escape consequences like this thread.

 

[TheLand]

Delusional take. Like I don't know what planet you think you are from? Piracy, terrorism, blackhawk down.
If Somaliland is poor, we are working poor. You guys are criminal underclass beyond redemption.

You guys just sit round the fire and come up with ways to escape consequences like this thread.

PL is doing better than SL by almost every measure, and has been for a while now so what you are saying isn’t true.

 

[Varriris]

PL is doing better than SL by almost every measure, and has been for a while now so what you are saying isn’t true.
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I said before that PL is the best performing clanstate, still a shithole

"Somaliland a shithole" same country that did a peaceful protest without forcefully selecting a leader against the people interest. Same country thats been peaceful for more than 30 years and don't have terrorist groups destabilising our country. Give me a bloody break.

how many protests have there been in SL where the army shoots at unarmed civilian, even killing some or shuts off the internet

saying it’s been peaceful for thirty years is a stretch, they’re literally fighting in Ceerigaabo

 

[TheLand]

I said before that PL is the best performing clanstate, still a shithole

how many protests have there been in SL where the army shoots at unarmed civilian, even killing some or shuts off the internet

saying it’s been peaceful for thirty years is a stretch, they’re literally fighting in Ceerigaabo

Some of those figures are comparable to Ethiopia and Kenya. You probably consider those shitholes too? Still better than a though.