Sharia law in action: Jail fear prevents women in Mauritania from filing rape complaints, study find

Is Sharia law the best system for women?

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A perfect system, which Sharia is claimed to be should have taken that into account, don't you think? :ivers:

Women's liberation can only be achieved through trough secularism :fittytousand:
I don’t blame Islam, it’s just unfortunate that the groups that accepted it en masse are low IQ ayrabs and Africans. Both full of brain dead idiots who don’t need religion to act like animals :francis:
 
Muslims countries won’t ever be secular, so it’s pointless to obsess over , just enjoy your in Denmark

With that pessimism they sure won't.

The internet is doing to Islam what the printing press did to Christianity and though not in our life-time the seeds of secularism can sown trough creating doubt and point it out obvious flaws leaving the apologist with little refuged.

Furthermore a new generation that is more religious is threatening my Denmark and those dark forces must also be fought.
 

VixR

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Forget about rape, plainly living in a Muslim country is incredibly limiting for a girl. I lived in one for all of three months and I although I was neither genitally mutilated, raped nor force-fed, I was all but dying to leave the entire time
 
I don’t blame Islam, it’s just unfortunate that the groups that accepted it en masse are low IQ ayrabs and Africans. Both full of brain dead idiots who don’t need religion to act like animals :francis:

The Western system manages to contain brain-dead Trump supporters but Islam can't seem to do the same, in fact it encourages the patriarchal standards from which women are oppressed.
 

Abdalla

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Rape has a low success rate of conviction and a low reporting rate, bc it’s hard to report and also hard to prove. A woman has to immediately get a rape kit and harvest the fluids, and even for those who do, go to your local police station and ask how many kits they have on backlog.

So if it has very low success rate why are you females singling out Muslim society?
 
Forget about rape, plainly living in a Muslim country is incredibly limiting for a girl. I lived in one for all of three months and I although I was neither genitally mutilated, raped nor force-fed, I was all but dying to leave the entire time
Yep it has an air of pessmism , the West is amazing , we should be thankful that the smart people keep on ruling
 
So if it has very low success rate why are you females singling out Muslim society?

In this specific case, we're criticizing the structure on which Muslim countries build which is Sharia law, where the punishments for pre-marital and extra-marital sex is directly affecting rape victims ability to make a complaint.

Other aspects that follow this system is the patriarchal structure and the guarding of female sexuality which contribute to stigma also, but that is separate from the clear legal danger Sharia represent.
 

Basra

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Not this is RAPE culture, in which the victim carries the burden.

"One case cited by HRW involved a 15-year-old girl who was imprisoned after being repeatedly gang-raped by four men who held her captive for two weeks, because one of the men – whom she knew – said he would marry her."

See this is what a system guarding female sexuality does, let us keep going :draketf:


"In another case, a prosecutor was reported as asking a rape survivor: “If you didn’t consent, why didn’t you tell your parents?” When the survivor said she knew the man who raped her, the prosecutor said: “All the things you are saying are lies, you did this willingly.”"

It is MUCH easier to use blame the victim tactics in a culture, where the women's chastity is of the highest concern and her safety is secondary :jcoleno:

"Life is not easy for many Mauritanian women and girls. The prevalence of female genital mutilation is 67%, some ethnic groups see domestic violence as a sign that a husband loves his wife, and many girls are sent away to “fat camps” in the desert to be force-fed, so that they put on large amounts of weight and fit Mauritanian notions of beauty."

Words fail me on this, now food is being used to abuse us? :holeup:


Conclusion:
A perfect system made by God wouldn't have these obvious flaws and would be able to contain the flaws of man.

@Knowles @VixR @Shushue @AussieHustler


Source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-...mauritania-from-filing-complaints-study-finds



Steam

Again, that is NOT Shariah law. Its jut human mis- interpreting the law, just like Al shabaab is misinterpreting Islam.
 
We should build on that and create a space for those who leave Islam and promote our views more loudly and unified.

Progress starts with the clash of ideas.
I don’t want to help anyone outside of Europe, Muslim countries have a medieval peasant mindset and need a bloody reformation and enlightenment like Europe
 
@Steamdevolopment they would kill an apostate so why should you think about them, leave them to their devices, let them take the credit and the blame

The effort is firstly focused on ex-muslim who need support and presence to reduce stigma.

Secondly, a man who has doubt is less likely to kill, less likely to make use of the various draconian measures in Sharia and is more likely to embrace new ideas, even at its most modest result it would decrease suffering and that I find worth-while.

Thirdly, Islam will only change once it meets sufficient resistance and the most effective resistance is that from within from people who look like them and who understand their struggles. So if you can speak out, you should in my mind.

We can be the spark for enlightment or at the very least help it along.
 
The effort is firstly focused on ex-muslim who need support and presence to reduce stigma.

Secondly, a man who has doubt is less likely to kill, less likely to make use of the various draconian measures in Sharia and is more likely to embrace new ideas, even at its most modest result it would decrease suffering and that I find worth-while.

Thirdly, Islam will only change once it meets sufficient resistance and the most effective resistance is that from within from people who look like them and who understand their struggles. So if you can speak out, you should in my mind.

We can be the spark for enlightment or at the very least help it along.
You overestimate your efforts and underestimate your enemy
 
You overestimate your efforts and underestimate your enemy

It won't just be my effort but the unified effort of Ex-muslims.

The Enlightment took almost 300 years to produce a truly liberal democracy with rights for most, we're only in the infancy of changing islam for the better.

The fact that Sheiks are now complaining about apostasy and having forums only goes to show that they take the problem seriously.
 

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It won't just be my effort but the unified effort of Ex-muslims.

The Enlightment took almost 300 years to produce a truly liberal democracy with rights for most, we're only in the infancy of changing islam for the better.

The fact that Sheiks are now complaining about apostasy and having forums only goes to show that they take the problem seriously.


It’s not only about religion but corruption too and tyranny which is a religiously neutral phenomenon. It happens in secular countries like Hungary and Poland too.
 
It’s not only about religion but corruption too and tyranny which is a religiously neutral phenomenon. It happens in secular countries like Hungary and Poland too.

Those issues can addressed too more easily if the public discourse is rational and not build on affirming 7th century scriptures.
 
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