Somali atheists how will you raise your kids?

[VixR]

Are u asking for personal reasons?

Khathead who embraces Orthodoxy (Christian) for poon (unorthodox but not unheard of) is about to u-turn into Atheism but wonders at its utility in raising em young'uns

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[VixR]

Here's a question: Is theism directly proportional to wanting to be fruitful and multiply?

I've noticed a lot of atheists don't even want them to begin with or want few.

 

[Bielsa]

I hate to rain on your parades but your Muslim daughters will have boyfriends and give handjobs behind your back. Just like my 16 year old will also probably do that. If you think today's 15 year old Muslim girls are innocent virgins you're either naive or lost your mind.

Good luck preaching celibacy to your kids in 21st century Western world lol.

 

[Canuck]

Wont have any kids, I'm sorted. imma rake in the money

You will need someone to check on you when you are 90s old, make sure that the nurses in retirement home are treating you well.

 

[supz]

You will need someone to check on you when you are 90s old, make sure that the nurses in retirement home are treating you well.

i'll kill myself when i become decrepit and obsolete. meh.

 

[Jujuman]

You will need someone to check on you when you are 90s old, make sure that the nurses in retirement home are treating you well.

Someone who lives on the fast lane doesn't live till 90

 

[Canuck]

i'll kill myself when i become decrepit and obsolete. meh.

Could end in paralyzed extremities or stroke!!!! However it is your life and choice good luck.

 

[Canuck]

Someone who lives on the fast lane doesn't live till 90

You never know

 

[The_Cosmos]

Atheists and non religious people don't have a set moral code to live by like we Muslims (or other religious people do).

Their ethics are usually a mixture of genetically endowed and culture induced values.

There isn't really an "Atheist moral code for dummies book".

The problem here is that you don't seem to understand the basic definition of atheism. Atheism is simply the LACK of belief in any deities. How one atheist views life will most likely be completely different to how another atheist views life. Did you know that there were and are Hindu atheists and Buddhist atheist? This is because they follow the teachings of these religions without actually adhering to any particular deity. There are atheists who believe in ghosts!

Anyways to get back to your point, atheists are not a monolith and thus to say that we ALL don't have a set of moral values to live by is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. I mean, you claim that Muslims have a set of moral values but how well are they doing? Moral values are separate from religion. In fact, studies show that atheists tend to be more "moral" than theists.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)01167-7

 

[Mohamud]

This is why somalinimo needs a reform. Where most of the values we do agree on (abstaining from promiscuous sex, drugs, and alcohol; not lying and stealing etc...) are ingrained in our culture.

To an extent they already are.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Our earth is a planet in a solar system. Our closest star, "the sun". Is only one in billions in our own galaxy.
There are billions of galaxies in the observable universe.

So you think that of all this existance some arab middle eastern theories/religions are the answers?
I dont think so.

Free your mind. Abrahamic religions are for closed minded people. We live in 2016. We are blessed with so much information. Internet is cheap. Computers are cheap. Do you really think we are the center of the universe.

I am going to teach my kids to think for them selfs. To seek knowledge. Objectivly. I respect your religion.
But its no match for science.

You talking about virgin births, while my 5 year old is talking about black holes, theory of relativity and the speed of light,

"The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be" - Carl Sagan. The words that shocked the hearts of the evangelicals and worries the minds of the believers.

 

[InaCabdulqadir]

What complete and utter nonsense. That is just implying that we, atheists, don't have any moral values that we can project to our children because it isn't "objective". Define objective morality and what constitutes something to be objective. We have extensively discussed this topic on other threads.

Moral values are not objective but that does not mean they're meaningless as you seem to imply.

Not to be offensive in any way, but if you there is no hell, and (in this hypothetical situation) know you won't be caught, what will stop you from doing it (when temptation is stronger than your morals)?

 

[InaCabdulqadir]

"The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be" - Carl Sagan. The words that shocked the hearts of the evangelicals and worries the minds of the believers.

 

[Jujuman]

Not to be offensive in any way, but if you there is no hell, and (in this hypothetical situation) know you won't be caught, what will stop you from doing it (when temptation is stronger than your morals)?

Mine (and I hope your) morals are innate. They both precede and supercede religion.

Answer me this, who in your view is a better in regard. The one who helps another person out of goodwill or the one who does it in the name of a God in anticipation that they'll be rewarded for it?

 

[The_Cosmos]

Not to be offensive in any way, but if you there is no hell, and (in this hypothetical situation) know you won't be caught, what will stop you from doing it (when temptation is stronger than your morals)?

My conscience is what stops me from being a bad person who does whatever he wishes to do. You may as where that comes from and I'll simply answer, evolution. (Check the religion section to see the debates about morality and God).

Stats show that atheists (in America at least), are more likely to be compassionate and show empathy towards other human being. Morality supercedes religion.

As Jujuman suggested, is the fear of hell the obstacle that stops you from hurting people? If so, then I'm afraid you need to evaluate your moral viewpoint.

 

[InaCabdulqadir]

Mine (and I hope your) morals are innate. They both precede and supercede religion.

Answer me this, who in your view is a better in regard. The one who helps another person out of goodwill or the one who does it in the name of a God in anticipation that they'll be rewarded for it?

إنما الأعمال بالنيات -و في رواية بالنية- و إنما لكل أمرئ ما نوى فمن كانت هجرته إلى الله و رسوله فهجرته إلى الله و رسوله و من كانت هجرته إلى دنيا يصيبها أو امرأة ينكحها فهجرته إلى ما هاجر إلى

Actions are only (equivalent to) their intentions. Everyone earns that which he has intended. Whoever migrates to Allah and his Messenger, he has migrated for Allah and his Messenger, and whoever migrates for the glitters of this world or to marry a woman then he has migrated for that which he has migrated for (intended).

So while I believe of these people to be good in their action, only one will be rewarded.

 

[Inactive]

Somali Sunnis talking about morals.

 

[InaCabdulqadir]

Somali Sunnis talking about morals.

We can't all be painted by the same brush.

 

[The_Cosmos]

إنما الأعمال بالنيات -و في رواية بالنية- و إنما لكل أمرئ ما نوى فمن كانت هجرته إلى الله و رسوله فهجرته إلى الله و رسوله و من كانت هجرته إلى دنيا يصيبها أو امرأة ينكحها فهجرته إلى ما هاجر إلى

Actions are only (equivalent to) their intentions. Everyone earns that which he has intended. Whoever migrates to Allah and his Messenger, he has migrated for Allah and his Messenger, and whoever migrates for the glitters of this world or to marry a woman then he has migrated for that which he has migrated for (intended).

So while I believe of these people to be good in their action, only one will be rewarded.

You're equating morals to Allah which is precisely what we reject. Morality supercedes religion. I mean, is something inherently good or is it good because god said it is good?