Somali girl in Burco chased for wearing pants

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it starts in a couple minutes

 

[wonyluvr]

you see sis I found a way to block somalispot

 

[ditto]

Sorry I got overzealous lol. My point still stands. What constitutes as beating and abuse according to yall? Light tapping with a miswak? A symbolic action? Are we saying we know better than what Allah said and the sunnah? Thats treading on a very dangerous path for one’s iman.

So what if it’s a light tapping? By admonishing women like small children, the whole point is to humiliate and remind them of their position in Islam. It reinforces our already subservient position to men who are seen as “protectors”. As a woman you’re expected to obey obey obey, and if you fail to you’re met with a “light” tapping, but not before your husband advises your arrogant behaviour and then denies your “right to sex”.

Honestly this verse raises more questions than it gives answers. What arrogant behaviour is it referring to? A man can determine arrogant behaviour to be something as simple as his wife refusing to do something for him. How can a man know whether his beating is “light”? Besides, humiliation is psychological abuse. Imagine being constantly reminded of how less than you are compared to men and how they have been ordained the right to smack you.

Not only that but it’s also awfully convenient. Men can deny sex as a weapon against their wives, but when women do it they’re cursed by angels all night soooo funny

Please don’t try masquerade Islam like it is a feminist religion because we all know it is not. This thread reminded me of all the things I dislike

 

[mohamedismail]

They are just trying to preserve their religious and cultural norms. I can't blame them. If they let it slide once, it will become a norm with the city becoming filled with trousers wearing women.

That being said the approach they used isn't the best. No matter how big a sin someone is doing it isn't justified to chase them in a mob.

 

[ina-cilmi]

Ok. But that still doesnt mean I’ll stop being rightfully critical of these men

yep but when its rightful, check yourself on what is rightful. and avoid speaking it aloud lest you backbite a muslim brother

 

[ina-cilmi]

Miss Saudi Arabia is not even wearing a hijab to her beauty pageant

you'd think a pious muslim woman would compete in a beauty pageant.......................
youre acting as if somali models wear hijabs......................
nevertheless whatever saudi does doesnt mean that its correct when its against islam. they are not the Qur'an and Sunnah. just cause theres concerts in saudi doesnt mean music is halal.

why do i even bother with you folk

 

[reer_ugaas_hussein]

There is a famous saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Whilst my sympathy is limited since let’s be real, most Somali girls know what they’re getting themselves in to if they wear trousers down the street of any Somali town or city.

But despite my lack of sympathy for the woman, what I cannot except is this timo Jelec disgusting behavior of following a woman en-masse and trying to intimidate her. It’s nasty and rather predatory and for all their claims of trying to protect Islamic society, it’s simply thug behavior dressed up. In this situation, the police is meant to come and escort the girl and give her a warning. This is a police role, not the hordes of crazy men.

These men are acting like they’re never seen trousers before or that the woman is stark naked. They see hijabi women wearing loose trousers everywhere outside of Somalia and are able to lower their gaze but all of a sudden they want to behave like beasts set free from their cages. Even in Saudi if a woman was to wear trousers, the men wouldn’t be behaving this way.

I also find it hypocritical how we’ve normalized men being druggies without societal or police interventions but a hijab wearing loose trousers is enough to make them loose their minds. Such feral people.

why are you insuniating that this is specifically "timo jileec" behaviour, this is insulting to them for no reason and in truth is this behaviour is much more prevelant in somalia and society in pakistan, india and bangladesh are much more modern and open, in most their cities there are women go without hijab and in western clothes in the more wealthy areas, something you would never see in Somalia. Look at this video of a univeristy in pakistan, no somali university looks like this. So people here need to stop lying to themselves, Somalia since the civil war is by far one of the worst places to live as a women, worse than countries in south asia people here proclaim to be one of the worst. For example look at this video of a univeristy in pakistan, no universityin somalia looks like this

 

[Angelina]

why are you insuniating that this is specifically "timo jileec" behaviour, this is insulting to them for no reason and in truth is this behaviour is much more prevelant in somalia and society in pakistan, india and bangladesh are much more modern and open, in most their cities there are women go without hijab and in western clothes in the more wealthy areas, something you would never see in Somalia. Look at this video of a univeristy in pakistan, no somali university looks like this. So people here need to stop lying to themselves, Somalia since the civil war is by far one of the worst places to live as a women, worse than countries in south asia people here proclaim to be one of the worst. For example look at this video of a univeristy in pakistan, no universityin somalia looks like this

Misogyny rears it’s ugly head in different ways, but the fact of the matter is that culturally Somali society is more progressive and lenient. Women being independent and earning, having businesses and traveling is rather normal in Somali dhaqan. Women being loud and voicing their opinion is normal in Somali culture. Women going out in the evening with female friends and socializing with friends is normal in our culture. It’s also normal for us women to marry who we want.

I’ve always had more freedom than my Arab and Asian friends despite the fact that somali families are a lot more stricter with regards to hijab compared to my Asian friends who could go out without hijab but can’t even go out to dinner with us girls past 7.

Also, In many ways, Somalis are a peculiar bunch. They’re obsessed with outward appearances of piety, but freemixing is more common amongst us than Muslim Pakistanis and Indians. Look at fob parties and weddings. That’s the demographic who are obsessed with hijab but having male/female friendships is normal amongst them and back home ‘shukaansi’ is caadey.

 

[Qeelbax]

Let’s just say alhamdulilah it was in burco so landers wont send it to gaalo

 

[Qeelbax]

This guy is not a real Islamic scholar. He likes to talk in circles, avoid direct questions and justify the bad behaviour of people using Quran and Hadith. You should use your own judgement. What do you think of people arresting a woman…for wearing pants?? Good or bad? If you can’t come up with a decision on that, you are lost

You are a gaal and have no right to speak on anyone else’s understanding of the deen

 

[Qeelbax]

Khat is not a drug. It's wild to compare Khat to women dressing immodest in public.

You might as well compare Coffe drinking to this

Khat is not a drug?

 

[Daydreamer]

Women wearing trousers isn’t cross dressing. All of us women wear trousers in the comfort of our home and under our abayas. Get out of here with that nonsense.

pretty sure thai fisherman pants are ok since they are baggy and don't reveal body shae

 

[Hotchick12]

My first vivid image of stepping foot in hergeisa I saw two police officers chasing of a women in the airport and my mum said she wasn’t wearing her headscarf properly

 

[Angelina]

pretty sure thai fisherman pants are ok since they are baggy and don't reveal body shae

Abaya or preferably jilbab is the correct hijab.

 

[Daydreamer]

Abaya or preferably jilbab is the correct hijab.

as long as it''s not showing the body out line and it's baggy then im pretty sure it's correct hijab

 

[Angelina]

as long as it''s not showing the body out line and it's baggy then im pretty sure it's correct hijab

Each to their own but I don’t see trousers as correct hijab as even the baggiest or trousers will show boys shape.

 

[Daydreamer]

So what if it’s a light tapping? By admonishing women like small children, the whole point is to humiliate and remind them of their position in Islam. It reinforces our already subservient position to men who are seen as “protectors”. As a woman you’re expected to obey obey obey, and if you fail to you’re met with a “light” tapping, but not before your husband advises your arrogant behaviour and then denies your “right to sex”.

Honestly this verse raises more questions than it gives answers. What arrogant behaviour is it referring to? A man can determine arrogant behaviour to be something as simple as his wife refusing to do something for him. How can a man know whether his beating is “light”? Besides, humiliation is psychological abuse. Imagine being constantly reminded of how less than you are compared to men and how they have been ordained the right to smack you.

Not only that but it’s also awfully convenient. Men can deny sex as a weapon against their wives, but when women do it they’re cursed by angels all night soooo funny

Please don’t try masquerade Islam like it is a feminist religion because we all know it is not. This thread reminded me of all the things I dislike

First off, the arrogance in this case refers to emotional and physical abuse, men must satisfy their wife's desires the same way a man must satisfy their desires as well, both must make themselves appealing by practicing good hygiene and being good to one another, also the angels only curse a woman if she is refusing to sleep with a man in order to spite him, not if she isn't in the mood. The whole beating thing isn't even used to humiliate the wife it's used to remind her that she is transgressing the husbands rights
@attash

 

[The alchemist]

I am from Burco and my brother could not wear shorts. So this is not some gender thing. People will come up to you and tell you to cut the thing out. Everyone is instructed to abide by the common gender-based decency laws.

People have to stop their useless immaturity and understand that they should follow the rules of the lands that follow the deen more. I will not do something in Saudi Arabia that is seen as bad just because it is okay among Westernized Muslims, which majority of you are, liberalized peoples who have liberalized mentality (and there is a spectrum to this).

Assaulting or anything is not allowed but also she broke the rules, and certainly not innocent. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who do what they know to be wrong by breaking rules and then cry that there are repercussions. We have those people doing stunts in the Western world and want people to feel bad for them because they are attention-seeking narcists with impure intentions.

Let's stop this idiotic white people mentality of being shocked at how people are very in line with the deen at home in public. They don't want to be like the West and that is their right. You have no right to tell them how they should live based on the values you adopted from the ideologies you were brought up with through Western schooling and society.

I had a certain hairstyle when I was there and was told I should remove it. I did. I, unlike the majority of whining individuals here, I'm not b*tchmade so I went bald and frankly, the guy severely destroyed my hairline too, so I wore a cap, lmao.

Seriously, far majority of you are adults but act like children. And the loudest are of course kafirs who love these threads because you can indirectly insert your gaal social views and pretend they are part of the discussion as if we are on the same page, or morally the same people when they are outside like every ajnabi gaal, lol. In Islam, a kafir is not in-group, this is clearly stated. They are not to be platformed about concerns on Islamic matters, especially. But I see people here often giving them an extra ear for no reason. Always remember they will not love you until you become like them, they want society irreligious and become extra eager during these sorts of controversies to use these topics as a platform as if they have any good intentions when they don't

I find the majority of people kind of hypocritical because if a just khalifate was put in place majority of you would whine and cry about how things were so strict, lol. I don't find it sincere at all. You want a Westernized world with Islamic characteristics only, lol. Like superficially Islam where no one is held accountable for anything and the rules for "freedom" are mirroring wherever you live in the West, where no one places conditions upon you. Let's be real, you're too compromised.

I remember I once spoke to a local about building large buildings and the guy had strong views, telling me how he did not want that in the land. And I had no choice but to accept it. Who am I to tell the people there what their cities should look like? We have no right neither are we superior to them. A lot of the diaspora have an audacious attitude toward the people back home without doing anything for them. You're here with your high horse and you think you know better and complain all day about how the people back home are backward. All I am saying is go there and pull that nonsense and they will humble you quickly. The world is not a forum thread.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Even I, an ETHIOPIAN supporter believe they did what was islamically correct and upheld our religious values yet YOU @Gojo Satoru and @Diini23 compared to me are doing somalis more harm than My ethio loving ass ever could. It's Ramadan ilaahay cafis waydiista

Are you Oromo?

 

[Ozark]

It's not the business of common citizens to police laws. They cannot enforce anything. They should all be in jail.